I mean, I don’t think watching UNC and Duke compete in the final four is any particular indication of a reasonable bar for success relative to NU
But not so long ago Chris Paul went to Wake, a local kid who went to Mt. Tabor high school about a mile from where I live now. He turned out OK.....
What is then, where we are? If you think the final four is out of reach for NU at some point, you are delusional.
Paul was at Wake Forest 17 years ago. The Deacons last visit to the NCAA tournament was 2017, in a play-in game. (Ironically the same season as NU was in the tournament ). Again, lowering admission standards doesn’t guarantee success. Although I have to say my view on this has changed over the years and I don’t care if NU wants to go minimum admissions. Frankly I think NU has much bigger institutional barriers these days like NIL, lack of fan support, game day atmosphere and lack of historical success.
For some reason, you seem to think that NU doesn't already admit star athletes who are good citizens who do not meet the NU typical student standards. That would be incorrect.
The question should be does not lowering the standards guarantee lack of success? If the answer is yes then lowering the standards somewhat is a reasonable ask
It’s been nearly 20 years since Paul committed to Wake, old timer.
You have to get into the tourney before you can have success in the tourney. Once a team is in the dance, as we have seen, a lot of things can happen but you have to get there first. And we have seen several instances where a team got hot and got in by winning their conference tourney. When was the last time you saw a team in a team in bottom 4 of the BIG got to be conference champion? Even though we have more bids, you have to have enough wins in the conference during the season to get them. We don't really see the big surprises in BIG tourney that you see in those mid major tourneys
Go back to your Ed Sheeran collection and pancakes aviator. It’s more your element.
Duke is an NBA prep program. I wouldn't root AGAINST NU if they got a couple of guys like that, but let's not pretend they are university students. They just aren't.
Yes, because the rest of D1 college sports are truly just quiet amateur dedication to scholarship and the coaches all do it for the love of the kids.
All of the revenue is FB and MBB. The other sports are sea lamprey or remora. And, of that MBB is break even and FB carries everyone else.
Thats pathetic. Refusing to shake hands when you lose a big game (fair and square).
Duke University embarrassed by a lack of sportsmanship? Duke University utilizing loopholes in regulations to claim a scholastic record of excellence it doesn’t deserve? Repugnant, two- faced hypocracy and anyone who wishes NU could be more like Duke should have their posting license on this forum canceled.
A team can probably win without being repugnant. We could be the "good" Duke, or "Duke-like" in the win department, aka Northwestern.
Totally. We need a guy who can get a team like Marquette to two 20-win seasons and NCAA appearances. Or maybe one familiar with the challenges of coaching at an academic institution and still regularly gets his team into the tournament, like, say, a coach from Princeton. Or what if we just grab a guy from a small school like Detroit — surely he’ll know how to make chicken salad out of our chicken s*** situation.
Absolutely nothing has changed about NU basketball in the last 22 years, you're right.
It is not that we do not admit athletes that are below the typical NU student profile. It is that even at that level the requirements are still way above what is required at other programs. So even with the leeway, we can still only get about 10-20% of the athletes that are in other programs through our admissions. And since all the other programs are going after the top guys we target, harder to hit a high enough percentage of top targets
What’s the big deal? NC was dancing and celebrating on the other end of the court. They weren’t exactly rushing to shake hands. Personally, I could care less how they represent their academic record. We all know one and done’s don’t graduate. The Cameron Crazies don’t seem to mind that their players lack the academic chops they have. Yet NU makes a fat cat section that basically chased away a bunch of fans. Brilliant. Now I’ll remove myself from your lawn and turn in my posting license.
I’m still loving the idea that super talented one-and-doners leaving so they can go exceed the lifetime earnings of the average American in their first six months in the NBA is somehow a bad or disgraceful thing. How much of a knob do you have to be to think that?
It is not a bad and disgraceful thing, if only we'd pay our children's teachers more first. They're the ones who produce the super talented in our society in the first place.
If there’s anyone out society needs to be paid more, it’s AAU coaches.
Yeah, I'm certain that NU not getting Caleb Love to commit is definitely somehow the fault of the admissions department.
I think anyone who looks at NU’s history knows there are a number of factors that have inhibited success — including NU’s history itself. Certainly academic demands create a much smaller pool of potential recruits — not just of kids who can get in, but who want to get in. At NU, if you’re not a one-and-done (and we’ve never had one), you’re going to work hard just to stay eligible. Not every kid wants to make that commitment.