I can't believe Nutt hasn't asked Yancey to come into his office for a word. I'd be livid if I were the head coach and some nutjob was harassing players and posting/reposting commitments/decommitments, etc. If I'm Nutt, what's going on can't be good for my program as it looks pretty junior highish. On the other hand, I'm kind of enjoying watching the mess up North and looking at a good shot at bowling.
Nutt and Yancey
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Yancy and Nutt work hand in hand. Yancy funnels info to Nutt, and Nutt uses Yancy to get messages to recruits.
Yancy can call them unlimited. Coaches are limited.
Make no mistake, Yancy recruits for Ole Miss.
Yancy may have over stepped his bounds yesterday, or it was "all hands on deck" for fire control.
Yancy can call them unlimited. Coaches are limited.
Make no mistake, Yancy recruits for Ole Miss.
Yancy may have over stepped his bounds yesterday, or it was "all hands on deck" for fire control.
I think he has rubbed the Bears' Nutt the wrong way. As a coach I would want to limit any info these guys get, maybe throw them a bone every now and then, but that's it.
He got "banned" because he got them in hot water with the NCAA. They had to do it.
Over stepped his bounds a little.
He is still part of the recruiting process. His marching orders come form the football office.
Now, he is a stone idiot, so he fuggs up a lot.
Over stepped his bounds a little.
He is still part of the recruiting process. His marching orders come form the football office.
Now, he is a stone idiot, so he fuggs up a lot.
But I'd extend that to recruiting sites period. Schols would be better off without them. Unfortunately, there is a product there to sell.
I wish the NCAA would crack down on it and eliminate websites or people with affiliations to any school from contacting prospects they don't have prior relationships with.
I can deal without the recruiting news. I follow it because it's there, but I also think it would be better if that news didn't exist. If sites still want to have combines and rank players, and have a centralized company that allows players to contact them if they want to be listed as a commitment somewhere, that's fine, but I don't like the idea that so many non-coaches are calling prospects and their families constantly. Yancy recruits for us. Steve/Gene recruit for you. It's the same at all the websites. Few, if any, of them approach it from a journalistic standpoint. It's all about pumping up their own school site.
I wish the NCAA would crack down on it and eliminate websites or people with affiliations to any school from contacting prospects they don't have prior relationships with.
I can deal without the recruiting news. I follow it because it's there, but I also think it would be better if that news didn't exist. If sites still want to have combines and rank players, and have a centralized company that allows players to contact them if they want to be listed as a commitment somewhere, that's fine, but I don't like the idea that so many non-coaches are calling prospects and their families constantly. Yancy recruits for us. Steve/Gene recruit for you. It's the same at all the websites. Few, if any, of them approach it from a journalistic standpoint. It's all about pumping up their own school site.
If people would just run a good professional service, there's room for it. It's just ridiculous when wanna-be football stars act like goofwads so they can get close to the action and perceived stardom. Yeah a lot of people know they are but a lot of people also know who Lindsay Lohan and Brittney Spears are.
I didn't say they did, just that they are recruiters, not journalists, whether the NCAA classifies them that way or not.
It all depends on the staff on what kind of access they get. Some staffs hate the recruiting sites and try to deny them access. Some love them and use them as a tool. Some see them as a necessary evil and work with them as best as they can to make sure they are portraying things the way they want them to be portrayed.
That's another problem, the fact that coaches have the ability to use these writers in that fashion at all. You can't deny that almost all of them act as recruiters. Gene's obsession with Chaz Ramsey and Lee Chambers from a few years back was downright stalkerish. Of course both of them signed elsewhere, and Gene may have been part of the reason why, but still it's ridiculous for a guy to have to put up with a nearly weekly interview from a team recruiting website publisher.
I just think that anyone with a school affiliation having that kind of access to players needs to be stopped. I think it should be limited to contact only from the prospect to the "journalist". It's bad enough that these guys have to try to complete high school with coaches calling all the time and coming by to visit, but then you mix in calls and texts from these pseudo-journalists, and it's a joke. It would put guys like Yancy out of business, but I think it would be for the better for everyone if they were cut off.
It all depends on the staff on what kind of access they get. Some staffs hate the recruiting sites and try to deny them access. Some love them and use them as a tool. Some see them as a necessary evil and work with them as best as they can to make sure they are portraying things the way they want them to be portrayed.
That's another problem, the fact that coaches have the ability to use these writers in that fashion at all. You can't deny that almost all of them act as recruiters. Gene's obsession with Chaz Ramsey and Lee Chambers from a few years back was downright stalkerish. Of course both of them signed elsewhere, and Gene may have been part of the reason why, but still it's ridiculous for a guy to have to put up with a nearly weekly interview from a team recruiting website publisher.
I just think that anyone with a school affiliation having that kind of access to players needs to be stopped. I think it should be limited to contact only from the prospect to the "journalist". It's bad enough that these guys have to try to complete high school with coaches calling all the time and coming by to visit, but then you mix in calls and texts from these pseudo-journalists, and it's a joke. It would put guys like Yancy out of business, but I think it would be for the better for everyone if they were cut off.
by relationship, I mean State's staff doesn't use Gene/Steve as part of their recruiting process.
Ole Miss uses their guys. They have since way back in the early 90's's when Chuck had the newspaper style Ole Miss Spirit. He had recruiting stuff all in there. He called recruits all the time.
Dawg's Bite, State's fan newspaper, had ,other than signings, no recruiting news.
I was questioning this **** back in the 80's and 90's about "reporters" calling recruits.
It's nothing new.
Ole Miss uses their guys. They have since way back in the early 90's's when Chuck had the newspaper style Ole Miss Spirit. He had recruiting stuff all in there. He called recruits all the time.
Dawg's Bite, State's fan newspaper, had ,other than signings, no recruiting news.
I was questioning this **** back in the 80's and 90's about "reporters" calling recruits.
It's nothing new.
saddawg said:
Yea, and they all do it now, whether the existing staff is pulling the strings or not.
If your staff chooses not to try to use them as a resource, then they run the risk of letting them get in the way even if it's not on purpose. I would think it would be better to have them in your pocket with some modicum of control over what they do rather than keeping them out risking the possibility that they end up stepping on your toes with what they do.
I'd be fine if they cut off all the recruiting information, because I don't like the feel of it. It just doesn't seem right the way it's done, and it's done that way across the board, not just at Ole Miss. If we were somehow innovators in the field, good for us, but I wish they'd cut it off.
I think I remember some uproar about Yancy crossing some NCAA line with something he was doing a few months back, can't remember what. Anyway, that's why, as a coach, I think you'd want to have your finger on these guys rather than just letting them run around conducting their business as they please. I'm going to bet most of them don't study the NCAA rule book, and it's dangerous to let them run around conducting their business without some sort of control over what they do.
Take the Lee Chambers/Chaz Ramsey thing as another example. I swear I bet Gene ran those two off by stalking them the way he did. If I'm the head coach, I'm going to want to have someone keeping an eye on that so that I can tell that "journalist" to back off or give someone some space if needed.
<span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;">If your staff chooses not to try to use them as a resource, then they
run the risk of letting them get in the way even if it's not on purpose.
I would think it would be better to have them in your pocket with some
modicum of control over what they do rather than keeping them out
risking the possibility that they end up stepping on your toes with what
they do.</span>
run the risk of letting them get in the way even if it's not on purpose.
I would think it would be better to have them in your pocket with some
modicum of control over what they do rather than keeping them out
risking the possibility that they end up stepping on your toes with what
they do.</span>