Nutter Field Hospital

sluggercatfan

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Bud, your guess is as good as mine. Right now they're taking volunteers to work over there, and of course a bunch have signed up because it's overtime. I didn't, and won't, because it's all after my shift is over, (1st), and I get enough O.T with call offs, 72 hour holds, etc.

I'm a single dad, and while my son is 15 and can make do on his own until I get home, I WANT to be there with/for him before he finally graduates and goes away to college.

Anyway, yeah, Nutter is one of Nutty Andy's crappy ideas and it's costing all of us, no question.
The funniest, actually makes me angry, are the states that the Dems run are wanting the feds to bail them out of all their mistakes from mismanagemening their states and cities for years.
 
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The funniest, actually makes me angry, are the states that the Dems run are wanting the feds to bail them out of all their mistakes from mismanagemening their states and cities for years.
Yep, and there are quite a few.

Btw, did you happen to catch the article written today by Illinois Senator Jason Plummer? On Fox. It's a great read if you haven't caught it yet. In it he's asking the feds to NOT give his state any $$$ that has to be funded by other states, all because the Dems in his state have bankrupted it.
 

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I remember when Andy unveiled the Nutter Field Hospital during his daily story hour. He had a professional video presentation of it made, complete with flyover drone footage from inside the facility. It was hilarious. [laughing]

That commercial alone probably cost us a pretty penny.

This was well over a month ago when people were scared to death thinking everyone was gonna die.

Now they're gonna have to take all that crap down and get back to football. I hope they at least let the homeless live there for a bit. Something.
I love how nuts this makes you.
 

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I will put my money on guys like this to listen to. I just wish the politicians would do the same.

Edit: They removed the video that basically said that we should open the country back up. Not sure why that would violate the terms of service?

 
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I know this isn't relevant but I hated Nutter Fieldhouse. We had to play Louisville Male there. It was like an inch of carpet on top of concrete. I don't see how teams in the NFL played on that kind of astroturf.

The turf everyone uses now is like playing on a pillow. The ground is crazy soft. It makes you feel as though you're not only much faster, but can also jump higher. I know they use that at Nutter now.
 

cole854

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I'm not going to put Andy down for having it setup or even for leaving it in place for a little while. I feel like a situation like this, you are better to have it and not need it as opposed to needing it and not having it.


KY was not even close to ever needing a 2 BR apartment converted, much less anything like the Nutter Center.
 
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I'm not going to put Andy down for having it setup or even for leaving it in place for a little while. I feel like a situation like this, you are better to have it and not need it as opposed to needing it and not having it.
I agree my BBN friend, but it's obvious that it is now not needed and is just burning money. My fellow Officers are loving the easy overtime, but as a taxpayer I think it's time to say we now need to shutter the doors and convert it back to a football practice facility. JMO.
 
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It’s not hindsight, you were told 6 weeks ago it would never be used but you rather trust the experts instead of some dude on the internet

But they lied to you and you still can’t recognize it’s corruption and malfeasance, not oh well better safe than sorry!

i pity you people in KY, seems like you only have incompetent public officials by rule
 

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It’s not hindsight, you were told 6 weeks ago it would never be used but you rather trust the experts instead of some dude on the internet

But they lied to you and you still can’t recognize it’s corruption and malfeasance, not oh well better safe than sorry!

i pity you people in KY, seems like you only have incompetent public officials by rule
But hey... we lead the nation in unemployment!!!!!!!
 

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It took essentially 2 weeks to get it up and running. I guess as someone who has been in charge of making sure we are good stewards for a companies money I would have asked myself, why not let hospitals get to a certain % capacity before I go off and spool up 6.7m dollar waiting room.
 

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Maybe you should be in charge of UK Medical since you know more from your googling station at home than
the medical experts in the field who have real statistics, not partisan spin from MSDNC or FAUX News.
Just going back to this....I think someone called someone a dweeb. Wonder if an apology is coming?
 

Bill Derington

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It’s not hindsight, you were told 6 weeks ago it would never be used but you rather trust the experts instead of some dude on the internet

But they lied to you and you still can’t recognize it’s corruption and malfeasance, not oh well better safe than sorry!

i pity you people in KY, seems like you only have incompetent public officials by rule

The problem is we think Beshear has the same goals as the average Kentuckian.

We simply want to get past this, he wants to use it to get a Federal bailout, and probably postpone the primary. Putting up a completely unnecessary hospital was good for optics at the time, and put more pressure on McConnell in an election year due to KY being debt ridden.
 

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Someone at the top of the food chain should lose their job...that much of a loss is asinine.
This. A lot of workers at UK DID lose their jobs. Meanwhile UK pisses away 160 mil on this chicanery as well as running completely pointless "we're all in this together" TV ads, Lord knows what those cost them.

This isnt Monday morning QBing either. Just look through this thread alone. Plenty of us pointed out they had enough capacity at the hospital itself and this was an enormous waste of time and money.

We arent New York. We arent California (thank God.) We arent going to be. The overwhelming majority of people either will not contract it at all, will contract it and be asymptomatic, or will contract it and have a cold for a while. A minority will get extreme symtpoms from it, and for an even smaller minority it is fatal. Most of the time due to advanced age or prexisting conditions.

Its time to get back normal living.
 

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It’s buried in one of the articles listed above but I think it should be highlighted that the contract to build the unused $7 million Nutter field hospital went to EDS which was founded by Jerry Lundergan and is still run by his family members.

King Andy said they chose EDS (who wasn’t the low bidder BTW...not by a long shot) because they were the only contractor who wasn’t going to use subcontractors...which King Andy said that meant they could get the Nutter facility built faster...which isn’t necessarily true...even if it was true there was no indication...no data that supported that Lexington needed it built quicker than what other contractors who bid lower could have performed.

Someone should investigate how much campaign money was donated to King Andy from EDS employees/Lundergan family members.
 

mashburned

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Today Andy said he had nothing to do with Nutter Hospital, that's all Uk.

He sure seemed to take a lot of credit for it when he unveiled the grand opening during one of his story hours.

UK said they selected the Lundergan bid because he was local and could get the tents up quick....

^ There's a lot of issues with that statement, but it's not worth discussing. Everybody sees what went on with this bs.
 

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Today Andy said he had nothing to do with Nutter Hospital, that's all Uk.

He sure seemed to take a lot of credit for it when he unveiled the grand opening during one of his story hours.

UK said they selected the Lundergan bid because he was local and could get the tents up quick....

^ There's a lot of issues with that statement, but it's not worth discussing. Everybody sees what went on with this bs.
Maybe he learned from Bevin.
 

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It’s buried in one of the articles listed above but I think it should be highlighted that the contract to build the unused $7 million Nutter field hospital went to EDS which was founded by Jerry Lundergan and is still run by his family members.

King Andy said they chose EDS (who wasn’t the low bidder BTW...not by a long shot) because they were the only contractor who wasn’t going to use subcontractors...which King Andy said that meant they could get the Nutter facility built faster...which isn’t necessarily true...even if it was true there was no indication...no data that supported that Lexington needed it built quicker than what other contractors who bid lower could have performed.

Someone should investigate how much campaign money was donated to King Andy from EDS employees/Lundergan family members.
Its absolutely disgusting. When can we expect the bleeding hearts at the Herald Leader to try and hold him to account for this good ole boy ********? Im not holding my breath.
 

Kaizer Sosay

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Were the bids made public?
Not that I am aware of but that doesn’t mean that they weren’t. All I ever heard publicly about the decision prior to construction was this...

Specifically, state law allows for emergency purchase procedures (under KRS 45A-095) to ensure timely completion of this project. Newman said only one firm, ultimately, could dependably provide the range of those needs in the timeframe required. Emergency Disaster Services (EDS) is a Lexington-based logistic and emergency support services company, which offered the best range of services that could be put in place in such a quick timeframe. EDS, for example, has helped construct and stand up several field hospitals in other states already.


That ^^^^^ sounds like they didn’t even issue an RFQ...like it was a no-compete award...which would be infinitely worse.
 
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Not that I am aware of but that doesn’t mean that they weren’t. All I ever heard publicly about the decision prior to construction was this...

Specifically, state law allows for emergency purchase procedures (under KRS 45A-095) to ensure timely completion of this project. Newman said only one firm, ultimately, could dependably provide the range of those needs in the timeframe required. Emergency Disaster Services (EDS) is a Lexington-based logistic and emergency support services company, which offered the best range of services that could be put in place in such a quick timeframe. EDS, for example, has helped construct and stand up several field hospitals in other states already.


That ^^^^^ sounds like they didn’t even issue an RFQ...like it was a no-compete award...which would be infinitely worse.

Bids weren't but the contract was I believe. I am almost 100% sure that EDS also set up the 2000 beds at the Ky fair and expo center too.
 

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Love all the arm chair quarterbacks with the 20/20 hindsight. Very easy to critique any decision 2 months later.
 
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Love all the arm chair quarterbacks with the 20/20 hindsight. Very easy to critique any decision 2 months later.

I told you these things 2 months ago, you can chekck dat der Catpaw record if ya like and you'd see.

That's not to pat my back, but to tell you you too can come to the land of the clear thinking if you abandon the nonsense you believe in.

It was obvious then, and even more so today, that the inmates are running are the asylum.