NW Guilford at Grimsley

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This Game could very well determine who is going to win the Metro 4A this year. Grimsley will be favored and rightfully so. This game reminds me of the old Piedmont Triad 4A when NW Guilford use to play East Forsyth for the title in the early 2010s.

I'm going with my Vikings

NW Guilford-31
Grimsley 30

GO VIKINGS
 
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This Game could very well determine who is going to win the Metro 4A this year. Grimsley will be favored and rightfully so. This game reminds me of the old Piedmont Triad 4A when NW Guilford use to play East Forsyth for the title in the early 2010s.

I'm going with my Vikings

NW Guilford-31
Grimsley 30

GO VIKINGS
Interesting prediction, Sir, and upsets do happen. Grimsley by seventeen..
P.S. Hoping you and yours are well, Mister War Head
P.S.S. Even if Northwest doesn't upset Grimsley, I"m thinking Northwest possibly comes in second place and a possible home game in the playoffs. It'll be a log jam for first through fourth place, with Grimsley, Southeast, Northwest, and Page. Grimsley may win the conference, and probably will, but will be tested moreso than last year..
 
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NW will struggle with SE for second place. I’ve seen the NW defense. Grimsley by 3+ TDs.
Don't count out Page for a run at second place, Sir, and I'm thinking the Pirates will give Grimsley all they desire when they line it up at Page this year on October 21st. Assuming both squads don't lose a game until then, Marion Kirby Stadium will be packed to the gills. Its a shame that these two teams don't play every year at Grimsley's Jamieson Stadium like they used to, because if both teams are on a roll, which I think is inevitable, a crowd of 10, 000 - 12, 000 will be expected. Barring major injuries, don't count out Page.
 
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Don't count out Page for a run at second place, Sir, and I'm thinking the Pirates will give Grimsley all they desire when they line it up at Page this year on October 21st. Assuming both squads don't lose a game until then, Marion Kirby Stadium will be packed to the gills. Its a shame that these two teams don't play every year at Grimsley's Jamieson Stadium like they used to, because if both teams are on a roll, which I think is inevitable, a crowd of 10, 000 - 12, 000 will be expected. Barring major injuries, don't count out Page.
Page is one dimensional. Grimsley's offense won't fail to produce like SW.
 

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Don't count out Page for a run at second place, Sir, and I'm thinking the Pirates will give Grimsley all they desire when they line it up at Page this year on October 21st. Assuming both squads don't lose a game until then, Marion Kirby Stadium will be packed to the gills. Its a shame that these two teams don't play every year at Grimsley's Jamieson Stadium like they used to, because if both teams are on a roll, which I think is inevitable, a crowd of 10, 000 - 12, 000 will be expected. Barring major injuries, don't count out Page.
Doug Robertson is a quality coach. Page will be ready, no doubt. Jamieson makes so much sense financially.
 

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Doug Robertson is a quality coach. Page will be ready, no doubt. Jamieson makes so much sense financially.
Everyone says he's a quality coach but he managed to run off every Varsity player with any talent. He basically helped get Grimsley a ring because his QB, RB, TE, and 2 WRs all went to Grimsley from Page their Jr years. Since he got to Page where he's had to play quality opponents he's been sub .500
 

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Everyone says he's a quality coach but he managed to run off every Varsity player with any talent. He basically helped get Grimsley a ring because his QB, RB, TE, and 2 WRs all went to Grimsley from Page their Jr years. Since he got to Page where he's had to play quality opponents he's been sub .500
Sometimes as a new coach coming In you can’t control players staying. All it takes is one big name to leave and they will all follow. They are improving and he’s working with the talent he has. The jv is looking good and the numbers are picking up so I expect them to be better in the next few years.
 

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Everyone says he's a quality coach but he managed to run off every Varsity player with any talent. He basically helped get Grimsley a ring because his QB, RB, TE, and 2 WRs all went to Grimsley from Page their Jr years. Since he got to Page where he's had to play quality opponents he's been sub .500

He is a quality coach. Also look at what he did at eastern guilford
 

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Everyone says he's a quality coach but he managed to run off every Varsity player with any talent. He basically helped get Grimsley a ring because his QB, RB, TE, and 2 WRs all went to Grimsley from Page their Jr years. Since he got to Page where he's had to play quality opponents he's been sub .500
A HUGE part of it was Ethan Albright was an assistant coach at Page at the time under Rolfes. He left and took the AD job at Grimsley when Lewis Newman left. He took his D1 prospect sons with him, and more than likely that factor persuaded other parents to follow. Once one goes, gets in the ear of another, its a domino effect. The TE was first, probably the QB second and the RB followed.

So, Albright leaving to take the AD Job at Grimsley compounded with Rolfes getting fired a few weeks later... was another smaller factor (which is think what you were eluding to, as "running players off").. because Rolfes had favorites, Robertson came in and wasn't going to cater to certain players just because they were the coaches pet under the last coach.. He came in and laid out his plan and his way of doing things, if a player and parent didn't like it, then it is what it is, go somewhere else (which, personally, I think is a poor attitude to have as a player/parent).

Part of the reason Rolfes was unsuccessful was he favored a small group of kids and didn't try to foster positive relationships with the whole group. (This is just one reason he was unsuccessful at Page, among quite a few reasons, I've mentioned in the past and won't get into again)
 
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Everyone says he's a quality coach but he managed to run off every Varsity player with any talent. He basically helped get Grimsley a ring because his QB, RB, TE, and 2 WRs all went to Grimsley from Page their Jr years. Since he got to Page where he's had to play quality opponents he's been sub .500
He's definitely an X's and O's type of guy and understands how to coach. paid real close attention Friday night. He didn't let what he was missing restrict him. Could tell that he felt he could win the game all night in spite of how good SW D was playing. He was on the other sideline playing chess.
 
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Since he got to Page where he's had to play quality opponents he's been sub .500
This is what happens when you lose 6 players and have to rebuild.. its takes time to get back to where Page was when Gillespie left. Like I said a few weeks ago, it took Gillespie 5 years to build the program into a State Title contender. Robertson is in year 3, and we have already started to see positive signs. (competing last year and building a foundation, making the playoffs, numbers are up depth wise and in the weight room, beating Reidsville, and the JV team is taking off, etc.)
 

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A HUGE part of it was Ethan Albright was an assistant coach at Page at the time under Rolfes. He left and took the AD job at Grimsley when Lewis Newman left. He took his D1 prospect sons with him, and more than likely that factor persuaded other parents to follow. Once one goes, gets in the ear of another, its a domino effect. The TE was first, probably the QB second and the RB followed.

So, Albright leaving to take the AD Job at Grimsley compounded with Rolfes getting fired a few weeks later... was another smaller factor (which is think what you were eluding to, as "running players off").. because Rolfes had favorites, Robertson came in and wasn't going to cater to certain players just because they were the coaches pet under the last coach.. He came in and laid out his plan and his way of doing things, if a player and parent didn't like it, then it is what it is, go somewhere else (which, personally, I think is a poor attitude to have as a player/parent).

Part of the reason Rolfes was unsuccessful was he favored a small group of kids and didn't try to foster positive relationships with the whole group. (This is just one reason he was unsuccessful at Page, among quite a few reasons, I've mentioned in the past and won't get into again)
Looking at the numbers Rolfes had 3 seasons at Page. One had he didn't have a penalty he would have beat Mallard Creek and possibly went to a State Championship. The next season he won the Metro Conference for the 2nd year in a row. The last year he had a bad year and was fired. So really he had 1 bad season and was fired because it was obvious and still is Page fans didn't like the guy. But to say he was unsuccessful is not 100% true. In 3 seasons he won more games than any other coach in the conference and had 2 conference championships. People will say he was blessed with good teams from coach G. Facts are he had more success than Robertson so far.
 

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Looking at the numbers Rolfes had 3 seasons at Page. One had he didn't have a penalty he would have beat Mallard Creek and possibly went to a State Championship. The next season he won the Metro Conference for the 2nd year in a row. The last year he had a bad year and was fired. So really he had 1 bad season and was fired because it was obvious and still is Page fans didn't like the guy. But to say he was unsuccessful is not 100% true. In 3 seasons he won more games than any other coach in the conference and had 2 conference championships. People will say he was blessed with good teams from coach G. Facts are he had more success than Robertson so far.
You can't compare the two.... if you put Robertson in as coach when Rolfes was hired, Page is never in the situation it's in right now trying to rebuild....
 
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Little known fact, Robertson was actually one of the coaches who interviewed for the Page job after Gillespie left. The reason he wasn't hired was because he wanted a coach to come with him who would have wanted to take the head baseball coaching job, but at that time the current baseball coach wanted to stay at Page. So, because of that, Robertson took the job at Thomasville instead, the year after. Had Robertson came at that time, Page, imo probably beats Mallard Creek and contends for the 4AA title. Also, he would have stayed the coach this whole time and all our talent doesn't leave for Grimsley, and we are still a deep playoff team...
 
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I don’t think that Rolfes was a bad coach, but I do think he was a bad fit for Page. He did a credible job with NW, but certainly did not elevate the Page program.

I had heard the Robertson was the first choice after Gillispie left. It’s tough when you lose a championship coach and longtime AD at the same time.
 
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I don’t think that Rolfes was a bad coach, but I do think he was a bad fit for Page. He did a credible job with NW, but certainly did not elevate the Page program.

I had heard the Robertson was the first choice after Gillispie left. It’s tough when you lose a championship coach and longtime AD at the same time.
Bingo! Rolfes isn't a bad coach, he just didn't fit in at Page. As you said, he certainly didn't elevate the program either.
 

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I think this could be an upset, I'll take NW Guilford by 3. Great game in Metro Greensboro this weekend.
 
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Everyone says he's a quality coach but he managed to run off every Varsity player with any talent. He basically helped get Grimsley a ring because his QB, RB, TE, and 2 WRs all went to Grimsley from Page their Jr years. Since he got to Page where he's had to play quality opponents he's been sub .500

Coach Brown is a helluva recruiter.
 

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NW has a great offense, but their defense is another thing entirely. Grimsley's talent pool is just too deep and good coaching doesn't hurt either. I see this game going a lot like the East Forsyth game, Grimsley is gonna punch NW in the mouth early and often. Then NW will maybe stage a comeback in the second half, but Grimsley is gonna shut it down.
 

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Remember NW ‘comeback’ vs EF was due to EF putting in backups. Through 3Q it was 49-15 EF.
 
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Remember NW ‘comeback’ vs EF was due to EF putting in backups. Through 3Q it was 49-15 EF.
imo, don't put in back ups unless its a running clock situation, or if the coaches have agreed to both put in back ups at the same time.
 

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Also..no one in this conference will play them within 2 tds. Not saying they will win a state championship but no one in Greensboro is close. When is the last time Grimsley lost a conference game?
 
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Also..no one in this conference will play them within 2 tds. Not saying they will win a state championship but no one in Greensboro is close. When is the last time Grimsley lost a conference game?
I'm not 100% sure, but I'd venture to say Page's win 21-7 over Grimsley on October 25, 2018.
 

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Very easy to win Greensboro. Control the transfer pool, control the city. They do a great job of "bringing players in".


RECRUITING.
Ok, your point? It’s been that way for years..when Grimsley sucked it was Page and Dudley doing the same thing. This is tired and old and it’s always Page fans whining. I’ve watched Gboro football for a long time Page was bringing in kids forever when they were good. Forsyth county has open enrollment, how do you think East Forsyth got food? It definetly wasn’t because the best football players in the triad live in Kernersville lol. Teams get good in cycles. Upset them and beat them and kids might start coming
 
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Ok, your point? It’s been that way for years..when Grimsley sucked it was Page and Dudley doing the same thing. This is tired and old and it’s always Page fans whining. I’ve watched Gboro football for a long time Page was bringing in kids forever when they were good. Forsyth county has open enrollment, how do you think East Forsyth got food? It definetly wasn’t because the best football players in the triad live in Kernersville lol. Teams get good in cycles. Upset them and beat them and kids might start coming
The only thing I don’t respect is when teams/fans beat their chest about beating a team that they took good players from. That’s what you’re supposed to do. Other than that, I don’t disagree with anything you said. No team is good consistently without transfers of some kind.
 

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Ok, your point? It’s been that way for years..when Grimsley sucked it was Page and Dudley doing the same thing. This is tired and old and it’s always Page fans whining. I’ve watched Gboro football for a long time Page was bringing in kids forever when they were good. Forsyth county has open enrollment, how do you think East Forsyth got food? It definetly wasn’t because the best football players in the triad live in Kernersville lol. Teams get good in cycles. Upset them and beat them and kids might start coming
Actually its a lot more than just Page fans talking about this, its really fans from the whole county. Also, there is a big difference from actively getting into peoples ears and trying to get them to move into your district for football and not academics. Page has had transfers in the past I will not deny it, but I know for sure Coach G did not like outsiders and was a skeptic when kids who would show up in the spring saying, "I go here now." From what I know, Page hasn't ever been accused of "bringing in kids" or recruiting, the program was built up by Coach Kirby in the 70s and 80s, and the success spoke for itself, and people moved into the district. The big difference was Grimsley has never really seen sustained success, and so when a new coach comes in and all of a sudden kids start showing up in droves, its starts to look really weird......

Page has never had a kid to transfer in from Grimsley, probably because over the years not many Grimsley kids would see playing time for Page. Grimsley won its first state title for the first time in like 75 years, by winning with 4 Page transfers, most notably the starting QB and RB. Congrats, you guys really started up a grassroots program and won with homegrown kids.

Grimsley gets a sniff at some success and instantly starts trying to poach kids straight from the best programs in the County. Just remember the all time series is 47-14-3 Page.
 

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The only thing I don’t respect is when teams/fans beat their chest about beating a team that they took good players from. That’s what you’re supposed to do. Other than that, I don’t disagree with anything you said. No team is good consistently without transfers of some kind.
%100 completely agree with you . Guess My point is that Grimsley has had numerous football and basketball players “recruited” out of district and playing for other teams in the 90s and 2000s. It’s how the game is played. They are good now and top dog, and people can’t stand it. Kind of funny. (I graduated from NW back in the day btw)
 
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Actually its a lot more than just Page fans talking about this, its really fans from the whole county. Also, there is a big difference from actively getting into peoples ears and trying to get them to move into your district for football and not academics. Page has had transfers in the past I will not deny it, but I know for sure Coach G did not like outsiders and was a skeptic when kids who would show up in the spring saying, "I go here now." From what I know, Page hasn't ever been accused of "bringing in kids" or recruiting, the program was built up by Coach Kirby in the 70s and 80s, and the success spoke for itself, and people moved into the district. The big difference was Grimsley has never really seen sustained success, and so when a new coach comes in and all of a sudden kids start showing up in droves, its starts to look really weird......

Page has never had a kid to transfer in from Grimsley, probably because over the years not many Grimsley kids would see playing time for Page. Grimsley won its first state title for the first time in like 75 years, by winning with 4 Page transfers, most notably the starting QB and RB. Congrats, you guys really started up a grassroots program and won with homegrown kids.

Grimsley gets a sniff at some success and instantly starts trying to poach kids straight from the best programs in the County. Just remember the all time series is 47-14-3 Page.
Again, see my post. So much butthurt bc Grimsley is good now. The game has always been played this way..believe what you want. LOL if you think Page has never had a player transfer in from Grimsley. The schools are 2 miles apart..