employees of the EPA to have a membership to a gym/healthclub. That practice ended yesterday thankfully.......problem is that every EPA employee that I dealt with definitely was NOT taking advantage of the offer......let's see....17000 epa employees multiplied by 400 bucks.....6 Million 800 Thousand bucks being pissed down a rathole.....but no more........the times they are a changing.....thank you JESUS-AH
obamapuppet was paying 400 bucks per year each for
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Most companies offer a stipend for gym memberships, that's not uncommon at all. Mine will reimburse up to $500 a year, but you have to claim it and provide proof (gym membership receipt). You don't just get it. If you can increase the health of your workforce and decrease the medical claims, the insurance goes down. That's the way it works in industry anyway, in theory. I doubt it works that way in Gov't although the same theory was definitely applied for it's creation.
One question I would have is whether or not they got the stipend regardless of utilization.
This is very true and very good comment. That is why complaining blindly like this wingnut which is similar to his hero, Trump, is absolutely stupid and worthless. And is why with a little bit of knowledge, Trump is now flip flopping positions all over the place.
Get smarter, Americans. Think, research, find the truth before being a blind fool.
There's all sorts of research showing the benefit. Medical claims drop and your workforce is more effective and productive.
Really? You want to start discussing costs to the taxpayer from stupid **** from presidents?
Trump Tower
Mara-A-Lago
Golf
Whackos are funny. I'm still giggling over the 'more CO2 will make the earth better' bit. Wow. Reminds me of the tobacco lobby in the 80's.
Absolutely. I think this one thing could have profound impact on staff productivity and morale.
I agree, but just don't blindly hand out $400 and hope that's what it is used for.
Private vs public. OK as long as it's a private with me. The people who run your company are responsible to the stock holders.
Obamacare in costs, deductibles, jobs, 20 mill on medicaid. The winner in extreme costs.
Cut out 10,000 jobs, offer them jobs along the border, and we could justify a gym membership.
Yea, I know. That's what I said.
I don't know if it works that way in Gov't though, as in driving down cost. I seriously doubt that.
Nothing works where there's nobody watching over them.I'm not sure how anybody can get to a place to work out with traffic as bad as it is in DC.
I have 3 gyms within a 5 minute drive or a 10 minute run. That's not counting the office prison gym we have.
And meanwhile Trump is on target to eclipse Obamas entire 8 year travel budget in less than one year. Spare me your penny pinching concern. Just get rid of the EPA, remember how great our air and water was before they came along and f*cked up how well Industry was making sure there was no pollution.
Remember how much bettter our health insurance was before Obozo and the dems came along. The 20 mill increase was in medicaid. That's all. Now people have deductibles they can't afford. Effectively, uninsuring them. I will agree with you that he needs to stay in DC and not take off to Miami. That much we do agree on.
I legitimately don't. Health insurance/care sucked for years. Premiums were increasing , yearly caps lowering, etc. Health insurance is actually probably better now with ObamaCare, in respect to the citizens. I honestly don't know if insurance is better within the healthcare industry. The main problem with ObamaCare is that is does NOTHING to lower health care costs.
You are so full of ****, your eyes are brown. People lost jobs, lost hours, lost wages, medcaid costs will go up when the govt refuses to pay for the additional enrollees. My god, you must of only entered the workforce in the last 8 years. I've had insurance since 1980, it is worse it's ever been. When your company takes your insurance and raises the deductible to 2-4,000, you are effectively un-insured.
Social worker on the govt dole. I've had private insurance since 1980, this is the worst I've ever seen it. You are effectively uninsured when you can't pay the large deductibles now.
I was going to say the same as Bru here. Healthy criticism is good.....NO President is infallible. Maybe a stipend system breaks some bs government rule? The answer isn't always Obama (or Trump) is a fool.
People were losing jobs and coverage before Obama was sworn in, due to health insurance. Sorry pal.
Sorry pal, you are completely delusional on that point. You aren't entitled to your own set of facts and you should brush up on thembefore arguing about socialist program that Obama started.
No one is entitled to their own set of facts. That is laughable. I guess that is where we get alternative facts.
"The average employer-sponsored family premium has gone up by $4,154 under Obama, from 2008, before he took office, to 2014, according to the Kaiser Family Foundation’s annual employer survey conducted with the Health Research & Educational Trust. The catch? That’s relatively slow growth for premiums. The RNC may cast it as bad news, but it’s an improvement compared with the growth in premiums before Obama took office.
Under Bush, the average family premiums (including both what employers and employees pay) went up $4,677 in his last six years in office, from 2002 to 2008, an increase of 58 percent. That $4,154 growth under Obama is a 33 percent increase. If we look at Bush’s first six years, the discrepancy gets even bigger: From 2000, the year before Bush was first inaugurated, to 2006, the average family premium went up $5,042, or an increase of 78 percent. (See Exhibit 1.11 on page 31 of the KFF report for these numbers.)"
Here's a good study to read:
http://files.kff.org/attachment/2014-employer-health-benefits-survey-full-report
I have to get approval before spending a dime, I can't imagine that it doesn't require proof.
When your deductibles have increased to the point you can't go to the doctor, you are effectively uninsured. Our deductibles under Bush were never 2-4,000 per person. That only became prevelant under Obamacare. What one needs to look at is how much those plans when Bush was president would have cost with those big deductibles.
The rising share of premiums paid for by workers has been taking an ever greater cut out of paychecks, especially for those with family plans. At the same time, job-based insurance provides less financial protection: per-person deductibles more than doubled in most states over the eight-year period. Deductibles have increased in health plans offered by large as well as small firms. The net result is that it is more difficult for many insured workers and their families to save for education or retirement—or simply to meet day-to-day living expenses. This was an abstract of health care deductibles from 2003-2011. By doubleing deductibles and even tripling, you don;'t get the same cost in insurance nor the same amount of money being spent. People just won't go to the doc. That may be the only good thing to come out of Obamacare. People hae been less willing to go.
Exhibit 4. Private Health Insurance Deductibles: State Averages by Firm Size and Household Type, 2003–2011 2003 2011 Percent change Average, all firms Single-person plan $518 $1,123 117% Family plan $1,079 $2,220 106% Average, small firms Single-person plan $703 $1,561 122% Family plan $1,575 $3,329 111% Average, large firms Single-person plan $452 $1,010 123% Family plan $969 $2,052 112% Note: Small firms = firms with fewer than 50 employees; large firms = firms with 50 or more employees. Sou
Is that a taxable benefit? I can see the benefit, and I see the healthful benefit in walking. When my miners closed production down to one shift for two weeks while the rest went deer hunting, should I have paid for lost time? They were getting exercise that was more healthy than when they were working in a sitting position. We can think of a hell of a lot of benefits people get while not working, but most of them are considered personal in nature. Gym usage is a personal choice and should be paid by the individual. I have no problem with employer paying for memberships if there are excess profits, but I do think it should be taxable income.
you are reading a different post then. What I saw was the typical liberal attitude now that we have a real president who isn't afraid to take action and who doesn't apologize to everything that breathes. The liberal response is to name call and make like all conservatives are crazy. That's the same attitude that lost you pukes this past election and if you don't change it will cause you to lose the next one......if that's an *** kicking then bring it on.....but just who's asses are getting kicked?