I enjoyed the movie. It was long but it never really seemed to drag in areas where some 3 hour movies do.
This isn't meant to be a spoiler but John Wick would approve of the final battle scene.
Odyssey
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This isn't meant to be a spoiler but John Wick would approve of the final battle scene.
I loved it, definitely better than braveheart lmao
It was too loud at some points, but glad I watched it in a theater.
It was too loud at some points, but glad I watched it in a theater.
The same traitors who stole the 2020 election are rigging reviews on Rotten Tomatoes. The depravity of the Deep State has no end.
Yeah the theater is better than watching at a park or rodeo...
Braveheart was a 10 this about a 3-4...
If she's looking for a Matt Damon...
...then I get Charlize Theron? Where do I sign...
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You forgot to mention casting a 5’1 135lb FEMALE as the world’s most bad-a$$ warrior.
That’s the size of an average 12 year old boy …..most of whom would easily kick her a$$!! Epic wokeness.
Uh, no. You fell for more MAGAt incel lies.
I trust you on this one, given how many you have chained up in your basement, Pedo Mauler.
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Not if you guys are doing a Lauren Boebert and her boyfriend reenactment.
I’m confused…..so she’s not really a short & scrawny biological female?!
And I’m not the one who supports the trans weirdos most likely to keep chained up kids.
Since when is Sinon the world’s most bad-a$$ warrior?
Everyone knows that.
He/she/it is. That's not what you were wrong about, Pedo Mauler.
Your name is Pedo Mauler because you maul the little boys ... in your basement. I don't support trans, I'm just not an obsessive closeted freak about anything LGBTQ like your incredibly insecure used and abused arse is.
He/she/it was not cast as Achilles, like all your anti-American incel handlers led you to believe.
I think you nailed it.
Metacritic is open to anybody - could be people mad about the black actress. Rotten Tomatoes is actual ticket buyers.
Per Claude:
So the honest read: Metacritic and RT are measuring different things and both numbers are probably real — Metacritic's user base (open to anyone, no verification) skews toward the loudest backlash, while RT's verified-audience number reflects actual ticket buyers, who are responding much more positively. That's a real methodology gap, not necessarily fraud on either site. The "RT is faking it for the studio" claim is the weak link — that's an assertion riding on top of a genuine, more boring explanation (different sampling methods, different audiences).
Glad you agree it was weird they cast a scrawny little girl as the bad-a$$ warrior. Probably didn’t want to scare you cuck libtards by casting an even normal sized man.
And not surprised you haven’t heard of Iowa City’s legendary Ped Mall full of bars & restaurants. I’ve heard the rural inbreds down there don’t like to stray far from their trailer parks.
He/she/it wasn't cast as Achilles ("the world's most bad-a$$ warrior"), you poorly closeted special needs incel.
Pedo Mauler, you tried to rationalize your name before. No one cares. I haven't heard of a lot of meaningless things in your corn field of a state ... because I've never been there, and don't plan on ever being there. I live in civilization, where ACTUAL legendary eateries and pubs are a dime a dozen. Now let those little boys go.
When archaeologists study the bones of ancient Greek people (from the Bronze Age through the Classical period), they find that most men averaged about 5'3" to 5'6". Because their diets were mostly agrarian (farming-based), the men didn't grow quite as tall as people do todayYou forgot to mention casting a 5’1 135lb FEMALE as the world’s most bad-a$$ warrior.
That’s the size of an average 12 year old boy …..most of whom would easily kick her a$$!! Epic wokeness.
HOW CAN THEY TELL THEY WERE MALE?!?!?
Also, how's your business castrating boys going, phaggot?
Yep and even into the 1700s people were short as anyone who had been to some old buildings can attest to if you are tall like me at 6’4”. I would have been a giant to them.
I don’t understand the people complaining about things such as Lupita being Helen. Do these people think Greeks looked like Robert Pattinson and Matt Damon?!
I might have missed it, but I didn’t see Achilles in any of the Trojan war scenes.
I wish they would have made two movies, one for the Iliad and one for the Odyssey. But if they only were going to do one, the Odyssey is definitely the better one
I might have missed it, but I didn’t see Achilles in any of the Trojan war scenes.
I wish they would have made two movies, one for the Iliad and one for the Odyssey. But if they only were going to do one, the Odyssey is definitely the better one
Look at you defending probably the worst casting decision in movie history. Watching HER stumbling around in armor was f’en hilarious.
It's been interesting watching the narratives swirl around this movie. Wasn't Elliot Page supposed to be play Achilles or something like that? According to the MAGAs that is. They were all foaming at the mouth over it, per the usual.
How is the movie doing at the box office? "Go woke go broke!"
How is the movie doing at the box office? "Go woke go broke!"
They were told by the Ministry of Truth Social that Page was playing Achilles so most of them probably still believe that.
Achilles is not in the movie. Assuming you're talking about the world's most bad-a$$ warrior (who successfully hid as a woman for years) being Achilles.You forgot to mention casting a 5’1 135lb FEMALE as the world’s most bad-a$$ warrior.
That’s the size of an average 12 year old boy …..most of whom would easily kick her a$$!! Epic wokeness.
You really believe their warriors looked like this??!!
Oh look, another person that doesn't understand the role Elliot was cast as, who was on screen for basically 2 scenes totaling 5 minutes.
I saw it Saturday. I have mixed personal reviews. I think that each individual scene if viewed in isolation was a master piece. Clearly really well done. Clearly painstakingly planned and what was achieved was incredible. The trojan horse in particularly was crazy, as was the cyclops.
I did struggle a bit with the flow of the plot and tracking the entire story overall. Almost like it was just too big of a story to tell in one movie. Wish they had done it more like Dune with multiple parts. Could've pretty easily blended the Iliad with the Odyssey and made multiple movies with slower building character development, etc. Then would've felt more cohesive for me.
Honestly think I'll likely like it more the second time I watch it after having the fuller picture.
I did struggle a bit with the flow of the plot and tracking the entire story overall. Almost like it was just too big of a story to tell in one movie. Wish they had done it more like Dune with multiple parts. Could've pretty easily blended the Iliad with the Odyssey and made multiple movies with slower building character development, etc. Then would've felt more cohesive for me.
Honestly think I'll likely like it more the second time I watch it after having the fuller picture.
He can be whatever Nolan wants him to be since he's not actually in Homer's Odyssey. Virgil introduces him in the Aeneid years later.
Whether Achilles(which I never claimed) or some other mighty warrior…….having her scrawny a$$ play the part was a f’en joke.
Tell me you can’t watch the clip I posted above without laughing. Then watch the video below & you’ll laugh even harder!
So she was cast as a warrior so pathetic, the other soldiers would die laughing?!
The "f#ck your feelings" crowd who often talk about WOKE SNOWFLAKES are sure worked up about a movie that few of them have seen.
It was the third biggest movie this year.
Third-largest opening of the year following “Toy Story 5” ($159 million) and “The Super Mario Galaxy Movie” ($ 131 million)
Toy Story. When factoring in global marketing and distribution costs, the total investment is estimated to be $350 million
Mario: $200 Million
Odessey: $350
Mario Made 1.3 Billion (Done) Needed $400 Million to Break Even
Toy Story 5 958 million. (4 weeks) Needed $750 Million to Break Even
Odessey $264 million (1 Week) Needs $750 million to break even.
Pretty obvious Mario Brothers will be the biggest winner at the box office in net gain!
Toy Story 5 will make money for years.
Third-largest opening of the year following “Toy Story 5” ($159 million) and “The Super Mario Galaxy Movie” ($ 131 million)
Toy Story. When factoring in global marketing and distribution costs, the total investment is estimated to be $350 million
Mario: $200 Million
Odessey: $350
Mario Made 1.3 Billion (Done) Needed $400 Million to Break Even
Toy Story 5 958 million. (4 weeks) Needed $750 Million to Break Even
Odessey $264 million (1 Week) Needs $750 million to break even.
Pretty obvious Mario Brothers will be the biggest winner at the box office in net gain!
Toy Story 5 will make money for years.
An underestimate but largely correct, per Claude. More like 5'7 (vs today's 5'10.
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Not quite — the comment gets the general gist right (ancient Greeks were shorter than today's population) but the specific numbers are too low, and the explanation is oversimplified.
What the skeletal evidence actually shows:
Physical anthropologist J. Lawrence Angel's classic studies of Greek skeletal remains found average heights of 170.5 cm (5'7.1") for Classical Greek males and 171.9 cm (5'7.7") for Hellenistic males, figures that have been corroborated by later studies of material from Corinth and the Athenian Kerameikos.
A more recent, larger-scale 2023 bioarchaeological study covering 9000 BC to 900 AD found that male stature over the last 10,000 years in Greece ranged from about 159.7 to 170.6 cm (roughly 5'3" to 5'7"), but importantly, heights weren't flat across that whole span — the study found a decrease from the Mesolithic to Neolithic, then a gradual increase from the Bronze Age through the Archaic/Classical period, followed by continued increase into the Roman era. So the low end of that range (5'3") reflects earlier/leaner periods like the Neolithic, not the Bronze Age–Classical stretch the comment is describing — by Classical times, men were closer to the top of that range, around 5'6"–5'7".
On the "agrarian diet" explanation: this is an oversimplification. Farming per se doesn't automatically stunt growth — plenty of well-fed agrarian societies produced tall populations. What actually drives stature in the bioarchaeological literature is more about diet quality and diversity (protein intake, variety), disease burden, and living conditions, not agriculture as such. In fact, some researchers (like Geoffrey Kron) have argued ancient Mediterranean populations ate a fairly good, varied diet and weren't dramatically disadvantaged compared to many later pre-industrial periods — heights actually dipped further during parts of the Middle Ages before climbing again. There's also regional variation worth noting: skeletal evidence suggests Macedonian remains show taller men than southern Peloponnesians, likely tied to a higher-protein diet with more cattle products, which is more about diet composition than "agrarian vs. not."
Bottom line: Ancient Greeks (Classical period especially) were shorter than modern Greeks (who average around 5'10" today), but the commonly cited Classical-era figure is closer to 5'6"–5'7", not 5'3"–5'6", and the "agrarian diet" explanation is more of a folk simplification than what bioarchaeologists actually point to.