It was a good movie, but I was honestly expecting better. I give it a 7/10.
Odyssey
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That’s a lot of effort trying to justify the casting of a 5’1 scrawny girl as a mighty warrior!
Not really cast as a mighty warrior. Just a poor man's kid who ended up going to war.That’s a lot of effort trying to justify the casting of a 5’1 scrawny girl as a mighty warrior!
Whether Achilles(which I never claimed) or some other mighty warrior…….having her scrawny a$$ play the part was a f’en joke.
Tell me you can’t watch the clip I posted above without laughing. Then watch the video below & you’ll laugh even harder!
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Look at you defending probably the worst casting decision in movie history. Watching HER stumbling around in armor was f’en hilarious.
Oh, Pedo Mauler ... and here you are, caught telling lies that were fed to you by your handlers, and now trying to save face and pretend like the truth doesn't matter so you can go on spreading your hate, borne of your own insecurities and feelings of being less than a "real man."
Somehow you ended up being less of a man than someone born a woman. Sad.
The heights of earlier humans turns out to be pretty interesting. I asked Claude more questions and this bit stood out:
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The numbers vary by period, region, and study — pre-agricultural humans weren't a single uniform population — but a few reasonably consistent patterns emerge from the skeletal literature, mostly from European samples (which have been studied most intensively):
Early Upper Paleolithic (~30,000–20,000 years ago, pre–Last Glacial Maximum) This is the tallest period in the prehistoric record. Frayer's classic study put the Upper Paleolithic male mean at around 174 cm (5'8.5"), with a standard deviation of about 9.4 cm, and other estimates for specific groups like the Gravettians run even higher, up to around 179 cm. Statistical analysis of long bone lengths confirms early Upper Paleolithic samples were notably tall, with a marked decline appearing later in that period, after the Last Glacial Maximum.
Late Upper Paleolithic / Mesolithic (~15,000–6,000 years ago) Height dropped meaningfully after the Ice Age's coldest stretch and stayed lower through the Mesolithic. Frayer's Mesolithic male mean was around 165 cm, and other analyses cite a similar Mesolithic male average around 166 cm, versus the taller Gravettian-era figures.
Early Neolithic farmers (~10,000–6,000 years ago, immediately post-agriculture) This is where the biggest drop hits. Estimated average adult statures for early farmers run about 10 cm (4 inches) shorter than the hunter-gatherers who preceded them, with males specifically about 14 cm shorter in Western Europe and about 8 cm shorter in the Eastern Mediterranean.
Bronze Age recovery Heights partially rebounded, with male means rising to around 167 cm — still well below the Upper Paleolithic peak.
A caveat on the viral "6-foot cavemen" version of this claim: you may have seen social media posts citing dramatic figures like "183 cm Paleolithic humans dropping to 162 cm after farming." That's not fabricated, but it's a bit cherry-picked — it pairs the single tallest pre-glacial subgroup (early Gravettians) against the shortest post-agricultural low point, rather than comparing like periods to like periods. The peer-reviewed picture is a real and substantial decline, but more in the range of roughly 165–174 cm (Mesolithic-to-early-Paleolithic males) down to roughly 155–162 cm for the shortest early farming populations, depending on region and study — still a meaningful drop, just less cinematic than "6 feet to 5'4"."
One more honest caveat: most of this data comes from Europe, where sampling has been densest; patterns for early farming transitions in the Near East, East Asia, and the Americas follow a broadly similar direction but the exact magnitudes differ by region.
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The numbers vary by period, region, and study — pre-agricultural humans weren't a single uniform population — but a few reasonably consistent patterns emerge from the skeletal literature, mostly from European samples (which have been studied most intensively):
Early Upper Paleolithic (~30,000–20,000 years ago, pre–Last Glacial Maximum) This is the tallest period in the prehistoric record. Frayer's classic study put the Upper Paleolithic male mean at around 174 cm (5'8.5"), with a standard deviation of about 9.4 cm, and other estimates for specific groups like the Gravettians run even higher, up to around 179 cm. Statistical analysis of long bone lengths confirms early Upper Paleolithic samples were notably tall, with a marked decline appearing later in that period, after the Last Glacial Maximum.
Late Upper Paleolithic / Mesolithic (~15,000–6,000 years ago) Height dropped meaningfully after the Ice Age's coldest stretch and stayed lower through the Mesolithic. Frayer's Mesolithic male mean was around 165 cm, and other analyses cite a similar Mesolithic male average around 166 cm, versus the taller Gravettian-era figures.
Early Neolithic farmers (~10,000–6,000 years ago, immediately post-agriculture) This is where the biggest drop hits. Estimated average adult statures for early farmers run about 10 cm (4 inches) shorter than the hunter-gatherers who preceded them, with males specifically about 14 cm shorter in Western Europe and about 8 cm shorter in the Eastern Mediterranean.
Bronze Age recovery Heights partially rebounded, with male means rising to around 167 cm — still well below the Upper Paleolithic peak.
A caveat on the viral "6-foot cavemen" version of this claim: you may have seen social media posts citing dramatic figures like "183 cm Paleolithic humans dropping to 162 cm after farming." That's not fabricated, but it's a bit cherry-picked — it pairs the single tallest pre-glacial subgroup (early Gravettians) against the shortest post-agricultural low point, rather than comparing like periods to like periods. The peer-reviewed picture is a real and substantial decline, but more in the range of roughly 165–174 cm (Mesolithic-to-early-Paleolithic males) down to roughly 155–162 cm for the shortest early farming populations, depending on region and study — still a meaningful drop, just less cinematic than "6 feet to 5'4"."
One more honest caveat: most of this data comes from Europe, where sampling has been densest; patterns for early farming transitions in the Near East, East Asia, and the Americas follow a broadly similar direction but the exact magnitudes differ by region.
They should have gone full woke with this casting decision….go big or go home, baby!
Y'all know that Brad Pitt and Diane Kruger don't look even a little bit Greek right?
Great,
I used AI for my answer as well, but my panties aren't up in a bind about the height of the actors on the Odyssey like some folks around here.
Show me what “lies” I said……that Elliot “Mighty Warrior” Page is actually a tiny female?
As I've already pointd out multiple times ...
You claimed: "You forgot to mention casting a 5’1 135lb FEMALE as the world’s most bad-a$$ warrior."
You thought, based on the chatter of your MAGAt handlers and fellow incels, that she was cast as Achilles. She was actually cast as Sinon. Sinon, in classical literature, was actually a deceiver ... a spy ... so you should be happy with the casting, right? Nolan changed up the part a bit so it wasn't that character, but if you're basing your assessment on how the cast is "supposed to be," a trannie can portray a deceiver, right? After all, they're trying to deceive us ... amirite?
You poor, dull, hateful creature.
If you had paid as much attention to what I already wrote on this subject as you do to those poor boys locked in your basement, we wouldn't need to revisit the same things over and over again.
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Yes, they actually do. If you knew anything regarding Greek ancestry, there absolutely are blonds and blue eyed people in Greece. They were actually considered God like.
What? You don't like highly successful films? It won 5 Oscars. Maybe sit this one out due to ignorance. Jesus. Some of you are absolutely insufferable with your nonsense. It's literally pushing $275 million in revenue on a budget of $75 million.Braveheart?!
Cool. Achilles hid as successfully for years as a woman, and Helen was born from an egg.
She was in it about 5 minutes worth of screen time, tops. Helen is barely a part of Odyssey, really only flashbacks and a little present day with his son (where she was disfigured, assumed they wanted that to be a surprise in the promotion of the film).
You really believe their warriors looked like this??!!
I had to laugh at this scene and super loud clomp, clomp, clomp of the horse's hooves on the sandy beach like it was a concrete road or something...
Very cool. Real history. Maybe try owning your bs which wasn't remotely true.
I get it, but originally, she was absolutely promoted for the movie. However, this timeline of the Odyssey is obviously after the Trojan horse episode.
Dude, you do nothing but gaslight the board. You literally bring nothing to this board but ********. Now, walk away like a good little boy.
Could have just put my toddler in there. He’s already been in war and has a penis unlike this thing that’s pretending to.
Wow — now McJizzle is lying about his kid serving in the armed forces. Way to raise a stolen valor toddler, you POS.
Hell yeah brother!
I’m just here to read MAGA tears from some casting choices of mythological characters
I owns it. While I was correct that neither of them look like the great majority of Greek people, I was wrong in that Achilles was described as fair haired (Achilles wasn't in this movie, but I had referenced Brad Pitt)
Next thing you're going to tell us is that Poseidon and Zeus aren't real.
I never said she was Achilles…..so I guess we now who the real liar is!
Speaking of being deceived…..Sinon wasn’t even mentioned in The Odyssey, you f’en dumb-a$$!!!!!!
Who in your mind from Odyssey mythology is “the world’s most badass Warrior”? After all, those are your own wordsI never said she was Achilles…..so I guess we now who the real liar is!
Speaking of being deceived…..Sinon wasn’t even mentioned in The Odyssey, you f’en dumb-a$$!!!!!!
Looking forward to it! Anything Nolan is great.. well maybe except Tenet
I never said she was Achilles…..so I guess we now who the real liar is!
Speaking of being deceived…..Sinon wasn’t even mentioned in The Odyssey, you f’en dumb-a$$!!!!!!
You're a special kind of stupid. And horrible at trying to cover up your expanding deceit What a sh.itbag sorry excuse for a human you are ... no wonder you love Trump.
You, of course, thought she was Achilles (i.e. "the world's most badass Warrior"). You even posted a tweet from someone claiming she was cast as Achilles.
No sh.it Sinon wasn't even mentioned in The Odyssey ... no one claimed he was (hence the reason I said "in classical literature" and not "in the Odyssey"). He was in The Aeneid. And Nolan incorporated the character into his retelling of the Trojan War, and changed up the character.
You're a walking talking advertisement for the legalization of post-birth abortion, Pedo Mauler. Now let those kids out of the basement. And then bore us with more stories about how some city in Iowa no one cares about has bars and restaurants.
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Every once in a while I'm tempted to hit the 'show ignored content' button.
I am immediately reminded of why I ignored those nutjobs.
Yes, I'm talking about you.
No, I won't see your reply.
I am immediately reminded of why I ignored those nutjobs.
Yes, I'm talking about you.
No, I won't see your reply.
I did not catch or appreciate in the movie, but I read somewhere that Achilles was one of the ghosts in the Hades scene.
That scene was insane. A lot of individual scenes were just really really good in isolation.
So not going to accept that you were wrong? @Hotshoe would tell you to own it.Apparently it’s the legendary trans warrior, Sinon!
Do we think @Hotshoe thinks The Odyssey is real history? I wonder what his days as a researcher helped him find on the subject matter