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Watching video feed, looks like EJ is in sweats again during warmups. No audio so no information on status and no news in local media from what I've seen since the loss to Collinsville.
They're not going to beat Eastside without EJ...

...wait...looks like he's playing.
 

crusader_of_90

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EJ misses two dunks - come on, man.

West up 41-38 after three despite to missed opportunities.
 

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56-55 west with 38.1 left. East side ball.


20.5 left - flyers take time out.

Hargrove drives - block on EJ. 12.2 left. West timeout.
 

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Hits the first.

Tied. And second.

West turnover. 7.8 left. East Side Ball!

5.8 - another foul. 57-56 ....missed! West rebound - taken away though.

ESL wins!
 
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The ESL hoops program has been in shambles - not the players’ doing, but a parade of coaches.

I’d venture to say this is the longest stretch (28 games this year) this senior class has had with one coach. Imagine if they’d had a chance to be under one system developing even more.
 

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EJ had 20, 12 boards and three blocks - and theee missed dunks, and for sure one of those possessions, the Maroons did not get points. I think another possession, someone got a free throw and the last was a put back.

Those missed opportunities add up, son.

Deadly and physical in the paint - gets hammered like Shaq and still gets his. Should never take another three this season. That stroke seems broken.

Yes, I’m being hyper-critical.

He impacts the game more than anyone else this year. He is by far the best player in the state and should earn the same awards.

His game and body suited for Big 10 play.
 

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EJ had 20, 12 boards and three blocks - and theee missed dunks, and for sure one of those possessions, the Maroons did not get points. I think another possession, someone got a free throw and the last was a put back.

Those missed opportunities add up, son.

Deadly and physical in the paint - gets hammered like Shaq and still gets his. Should never take another three this season. That stroke seems broken.

Yes, I’m being hyper-critical.

He impacts the game more than anyone else this year. He is by far the best player in the state and should earn the same awards.

His game and body suited for Big 10 play.
Eastside probably won the conference this year last night. That's a huge feather in their cap as this is probably been the best the SW Conference has ever been. Collinsville certainly has the ability to spoil that, but you have to favor Eastside at this point.

It will be interesting to see how the BW players respond to these losses. Will this cost them confidence in the playoffs or make them hungry again? Do the losses take some of the pressure off of having that big target on their back?

For me personally, it would still be nice to see a SW Conference team win both 4a and 3a this year. As long as BW isn't too rattled, I still like their chances in 4a. Eastside has just as much of an ability to win 3a as any of the other top teams and have a real shot at winning state as well.
 
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I'd love to match up the top four SWC teams with the top four CPS team this year. Each conference seeds their teams and I'd even stipulate SWC takes the even numbers ... set up the games and see who is playing at the end of the bracket.
Here are the Chicago Public League Tournament quarterfinal games:

Whitney Young (22-6)
Simeon (14-13)

Morgan Park (23-3)
Lincoln Park (19-6)

Curie (26-1)
Farragut (17-6)

Orr (18-10)
Bogan (21-2)
 

LHSTigers94

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EJ had 20, 12 boards and three blocks - and theee missed dunks, and for sure one of those possessions, the Maroons did not get points. I think another possession, someone got a free throw and the last was a put back.

Those missed opportunities add up, son.

Deadly and physical in the paint - gets hammered like Shaq and still gets his. Should never take another three this season. That stroke seems broken.

Yes, I’m being hyper-critical.

He impacts the game more than anyone else this year. He is by far the best player in the state and should earn the same awards.

His game and body suited for Big 10 play.

No High School kid plays a perfect game
 

crusader_of_90

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STL area No. 2 large school East St. Louis (22-5 overall, 9-1 league) took control over the Southwest Confernce.

STL area No. 1 large school Belleville West dropped to 23-3 and 7-2 in league play.

Played teams from nine states - lose twice in the conference and still have to play Collinsville and Alton. Then CBC!
 

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STL area No. 2 large school East St. Louis (22-5 overall, 9-1 league) took control over the Southwest Confernce.

STL area No. 1 large school Belleville West dropped to 23-3 and 7-2 in league play.

Played teams from nine states - lose twice in the conference and still have to play Collinsville and Alton. Then CBC!

I think BW over did it with their schedule this year.
 
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I think BW over did it with their schedule this year.
I agree. Scheduling good competition to get yourself ready for the post season is one thing, but if it's too much it can wear you down. BW may also not have anticipated the conference being as good as it has been this year.
 

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I agree. Scheduling good competition to get yourself ready for the post season is one thing, but if it's too much it can wear you down. BW may also not have anticipated the conference being as good as it has been this year.


Not sure when the schedule was made but, Over the summer BW lost to Collinsville and had to come from behind and win at the buzzer against ESL.
 

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I’d have to think at some point after they won 4A and lost to no one in state last year with four returning starters and the start of the year, the schedule was made.
 

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They must have already made their schedule before those games. lol

Right, I think they have 5 games left where most teams only have two games. 3 of the 5 are Collinsville, Alton and Chaminade. Hopefully this don’t come back to haunt them. They have to play Alton a 4th time and Collinsville a 3rd time in the playoffs. Talk about a heck of a season.
 

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Right, I think they have 5 games left where most teams only have two games. 3 of the 5 are Collinsville, Alton and Chaminade. Hopefully this don’t come back to haunt them. They have to play Alton a 4th time and Collinsville a 3rd time in the playoffs. Talk about a heck of a season.

Right. They really haven't had any stretch of weaker games on that schedule where they could kind of take it easy.
 

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I am sure what played into the schedule is this is probably an once-in-a lifetime opportunity to play this kind of competition, as BW is unlikely to have a team like this again for a long time.
They're not a Morgan Park, Simeon or Whitney Young which gets the chance to play some of the nation's top teams almost annually because the kind of talent they have year-in and year-out.
Stevenson beefed up its schedule for Brunson's senior year, although probably not to this extent.
Might as well go for it while you can, and hope the kids can withstand the rigors.
 
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I am sure what played into the schedule is this is probably an once-in-a lifetime opportunity to play this kind of competition, as BW is unlikely to have a team like this again for a long time.
They're not a Morgan Park, Simeon or Whitney Young which gets the chance to play some of the nation's top teams almost annually because the kind of talent they have year-in and year-out.
Stevenson beefed up its schedule for Brunson's senior year, although probably not to this extent.
Might as well go for it while you can, and hope the kids can withstand the rigors.
That's a good point. Looks like it's beginning to cost them though.
 

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I am sure what played into the schedule is this is probably an once-in-a lifetime opportunity to play this kind of competition, as BW is unlikely to have a team like this again for a long time.
They're not a Morgan Park, Simeon or Whitney Young which gets the chance to play some of the nation's top teams almost annually because the kind of talent they have year-in and year-out.
Stevenson beefed up its schedule for Brunson's senior year, although probably not to this extent.
Might as well go for it while you can, and hope the kids can withstand the rigors.

Not sure what Stevenson had in their conference but West had 6 conference games that was equal or better than the competition they face while traveling. It’s a lot different when your conference is good however I agree with your once in a lifetime assessment. Hopefully they can bounce back. They have Collinsville on Friday then Chaminade on Saturday. I think they follow with Alton. All on the road. Will be interesting.
 
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A bunch of consecutive tough games is...tough. The main thing would be to get healthy. In all honesty for a top team you probably have at most 4 tough games in a row in the playoffs (including the 2 in Peoria).
 

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A bunch of consecutive tough games is...tough. The main thing would be to get healthy. In all honesty for a top team you probably have at most 4 tough games in a row in the playoffs (including the 2 in Peoria).

I agree. The way West schedule is shaking out, they will have tough games to end the season and turn right around and play those same teams in the playoffs. It's going to be a bumpy ride for those boys however they have proven the ability to win and be successful thus far.
 

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West v East - gym pretty full for a Tuesday.

Streaming on Nfhs.

15-4 3:42 in 1Q.

25-4 after 1Q.
 
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EJ missed “the Jordan” dunk ...

29-6 at 6:55.

32-6

West JV playing now. 42-21 and OH my Goodness !!!! Some nobody for West caught a rebound from a last-shot three with one hand, above and behind his head and SLAMMED it home WITH AUTHOR-I-TAY!!!!
 

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Here are the Chicago Public League Tournament quarterfinal games:

Whitney Young (22-6)
Simeon (14-13)

Morgan Park (23-3)
Lincoln Park (19-6)

Curie (26-1)
Farragut (17-6)

Orr (18-10)
Bogan (21-2)
Morgan Park, Curie and Orr have advanced to the Public League semifinals. Whitney Young plays Simeon today (Wednesday) for the final spot.
 

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EJ missed “the Jordan” dunk ...

29-6 at 6:55.

32-6

West JV playing now. 42-21 and OH my Goodness !!!! Some nobody for West caught a rebound from a last-shot three with one hand, above and behind his head and SLAMMED it home WITH AUTHOR-I-TAY!!!!

Curious to see how motivated West will be this Friday. It sounds like West didn't waste any time with their crosstown rival.
 

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Coach was hollering even when they were up 10-2 two minutes in ... they played ferocious defense ... they moved the ball upcourt with pace.

I'm sure they ALL had a come-to-Jesus moment after losing two conference games in a row.

The season is still salvageable - but anything less than a title is disastrous, in my opinion.
 

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Coach was hollering even when they were up 10-2 two minutes in ... they played ferocious defense ... they moved the ball upcourt with pace.

I'm sure they ALL had a come-to-Jesus moment after losing two conference games in a row.

The season is still salvageable - but anything less than a title is disastrous, in my opinion.

True but sad considering all the games they have played and won. Right now they are on the outside looking in on a conference Championship. To me this was a lessoned learned for all schools. It's fun to travel and play tough games but conference and state championships are the most important.
 

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Morgan Park squeaks by Lincoln Park - Whitney Young against Simeon tonight to determine last CPS semi finalist on that side of the bracket. Currie and Orr play on the other side.

Headline in the Sun Times: “
Transfer Chris Roberts helps Morgan Park eke past his former team”