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rivalsHSFBfan16

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If you had to choose, what kind of offense would you like to watch in high school?

My team runs the ball 98% of time, which I think gets alittle old.

Would you rather watch pass happy team or smash mouth football?
 
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If you had to choose, what kind of offense would you like to watch in high school?

My team runs the ball 98% of time, which I think gets alittle old.

Would you rather watch pass happy team or smash mouth football?
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I like watching teams that run a balanced offense out of the I formation
 
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All about what works best for your team. Can't run a spread if you don't have the players for it but can't run a smashmouth down your throat offense if you don't have the line for it. It all depends on the program. I've had just as much fun watching a team like Giles run the single wing and Riverheads run the wing t as I did some of the old Gretna teams run the spread. An exciting offense to me is one that is a well oiled machine whether it be predominantly a pass first or a run oriented team. Just my 2 cents
 
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I'm with kwhs95fan. I really enjoy watching a team that can execute their offense, no matter what system they run. Eastern View (4A) has really developed a solid offense in a short period. They are fun to watch.
 
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I'm with kwhs95fan. I really enjoy watching a team that can execute their offense, no matter what system they run. Eastern View (4A) has really developed a solid offense in a short period. They are fun to watch.
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And EV adapts well to what players they have and runs the offense to their strengths. Hatfield is a fine Coach that always puts out a very competitive Cyclone squad.
 
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I have learned to love the split back veer that Coach Smith runs, no one uses it in VA except 3 or 4 schools. Appomattox is one of them. This is a triple option and primarily a run offense but when you throw out of it, it kills the D because the way it is set up, you wont expect the pass. I like what Coach Smith did with it last year knowing he had a QB that could sling. He opened it up to a spread many times throughout the year to keep D off balance. 3 years ago, when we got beat by Giles in playoffs, we was limited to just using the split back veer due to having a qb with no arm. So I love the veer, but you have to pass out of it at times or you wont go but so far because Ds will just load the box and smash the veer all night.

I HATE the single wing and wing T. I dont think the O Line gets enough credit with them offenses. If you dont know how to stop it, it will be a long night for anyone that team is facing (example: Union vs. Clarke C last year in playoffs). You can put a D rated player that runs a 5.0/ 40 and he will have a 1000 yards by the end of season in these type offenses. I hate em. Plus they dont benefit you you if you get down by 3 TDs, you have to start doing something that the team is not use to doing....yep pass the ball. Never seen a team with this offense pass well.

It boils down to a team using the teams strengths and putting them in play to win games. Sometimes you dont have all the players needed to run a certain offense, but salute to coaches that figure that out before forcing players to play a game they will never be prepared to play.
 
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AdvocateOfMany434 said:
I have learned to love the split back veer that Coach Smith runs, no one uses it in VA except 3 or 4 schools. Appomattox is one of them. This is a triple option and primarily a run offense but when you throw out of it, it kills the D because the way it is set up, you wont expect the pass. I like what Coach Smith did with it last year knowing he had a QB that could sling. He opened it up to a spread many times throughout the year to keep D off balance. 3 years ago, when we got beat by Giles in playoffs, we was limited to just using the split back veer due to having a qb with no arm. So I love the veer, but you have to pass out of it at times or you wont go but so far because Ds will just load the box and smash the veer all night.

I HATE the single wing and wing T. I dont think the O Line gets enough credit with them offenses. If you dont know how to stop it, it will be a long night for anyone that team is facing (example: Union vs. Clarke C last year in playoffs). You can put a D rated player that runs a 5.0/ 40 and he will have a 1000 yards by the end of season in these type offenses. I hate em. Plus they dont benefit you you if you get down by 3 TDs, you have to start doing something that the team is not use to doing....yep pass the ball. Never seen a team with this offense pass well.

It boils down to a team using the teams strengths and putting them in play to win games. Sometimes you dont have all the players needed to run a certain offense, but salute to coaches that figure that out before forcing players to play a game they will never be prepared to play.
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Hmm..an offense that allows D Rated players to pick up 1000 yards....and whats the issue with these offenses again?? lol

But seriously, as some have already mentioned, as long as a team executes correctly then any offense can be fun to watch.

And for the one(s) who say a full out spread is the best.. I am still offering the "Little Washington Challenge" where I will pay for your ticket in to watch Rappahannock County put on an spread aerial disgrace.

As for my favorites to watch, I love the Single Wing and I loved how Gretna and William Campbell used to work the spread (90% run from what I saw, this is post-Vic Hall era I'm speaking of). The Straight T is fun to watch as well if you enjoy old school smash mouth football, which I do.
 
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Truth be known, the best offense I ever saw was Vic Hall running the 2 minute drill. (Back then, there was no such thing as a punt late in a half). I remember converting a 4th and 35 from inside the Gretna 10 yard line. He hit Brandon Turner on an out pattern near mid field for a first down.

In 2004, Gretna only punted 5 times in 14 games, and a couple of those were on 3rd down to keep from running up the score. I think one was on first down.
 
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Ive never seen that before, mot saying it dont happen. Gretna to be so small and in a place that not much traffic goes unless you have business there, yall have had some power house teams in past. There are some good genes in that area.
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Hampton Roads 6 said:
Truth be known, the best offense I ever saw was Vic Hall running the 2 minute drill. (Back then, there was no such thing as a punt late in a half). I remember converting a 4th and 35 from inside the Gretna 10 yard line. He hit Brandon Turner on an out pattern near mid field for a first down.

In 2004, Gretna only punted 5 times in 14 games, and a couple of those were on 3rd down to keep from running up the score. I think one was on first down.
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Ive never seen that before, not saying it dont happen (punting on 3rd and 1st down). Gretna to be so small and in a place that not much traffic goes unless you have business there, yall have had some power house teams in past. There are some good genes in that area.
 
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During the 2010 Richlands season our fans would take bets in the crowd on how many plays it would take us to score. My stock answer was always 3 or 4 and I was right far more than I was ever wrong lol. Special offense that year with Johnson at RB
 
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During the 2010 Richlands season our fans would take bets in the crowd on how many plays it would take us to score. My stock answer was always 3 or 4 and I was right far more than I was ever wrong lol. Special offense that year with Johnson at RB
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Not many people talk about sean overton from that team. That kid had great talent.
 
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Hampton Roads 6 said:
Truth be known, the best offense I ever saw was Vic Hall running the 2 minute drill. (Back then, there was no such thing as a punt late in a half). I remember converting a 4th and 35 from inside the Gretna 10 yard line. He hit Brandon Turner on an out pattern near mid field for a first down.

In 2004, Gretna only punted 5 times in 14 games, and a couple of those were on 3rd down to keep from running up the score. I think one was on first down.
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Is there any possibility of another team going for it on 4th and 35 from behind their own 10? You don't make it, the Coach needs to be fired. You do make it, the QB is the Son of God and he would have to be to make this play. But This situation is way more than just rolling the dice. Even a Hail Mary has a better chance of being complete.

But this is 2A Football and Gretna had Vic Hall. Anything was possible at that level and with this player.
 
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Hampton Roads 6 said:
Truth be known, the best offense I ever saw was Vic Hall running the 2 minute drill. (Back then, there was no such thing as a punt late in a half). I remember converting a 4th and 35 from inside the Gretna 10 yard line. He hit Brandon Turner on an out pattern near mid field for a first down.

In 2004, Gretna only punted 5 times in 14 games, and a couple of those were on 3rd down to keep from running up the score. I think one was on first down.
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True statement.. I was in 5th grade, but I remember it like it was yesterday. I'd put that Gretna team against ANYBODY!! Vic Hall, Rico Reynold, Brandon Turner, Marlon Moon, Shaun Haskins, Horrece Hubbard.. Best high school team I've ever seen!!
 
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Vic Hall was pretty darn close to that. Not sure why the buffoons at UVA couldnt figure out how to use him at QB.
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You're gonna' get a big thumbs up from HR6 for that. Coach's are not always right. But again, an incredible 2A player does not necessarily translate to DI. And Vic Hall was very successful at the position of need they put him at. He was a remarkable athlete.

He graduated UVA and had class and character throughout. Personally, I consider this the finer achievement. He remains a great man.
 
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Vic was recruited by Ron Prince. Jamel Sewell was recruited by Mike Groh. Little Groh was the QB Coach, and wanted to play his "recruit". I went to UVA several times to watch practice. Hall was best QB in Charlottesville.
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I have to give you a point here. More than a few DI Coachs are completely blind to anyone but "their" recruits.
shouldn't be that way but it is what it is and it's one of the reasons that most walk-on programs are nothing more than practice team fodder. They don't get looks. They don't get reps. That have no chance.

When a player is "their" recruit. "He'll get better. All he needs is more reps". When he's not. "He can't do the job. Don't renew his scholly and we'll bring in someone else".

This is NOT true everywhere but it's a lot more than people think.
 
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My favorite offense is one that maximizes the talents of its personnel, is executed well(effective and efficient), scores points and wins games. It is not a one size fits all deal as far as I am concerned. That Gretna team was extremely entertaining to watch and Vic Hall would have been a star at any level. Gretna would have been shy from a depth perspective(quality and quantity) to make a lot of noise in the highest ranks.
 
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My favorite is a running offense that just pounds the ball down the throats of the defense for 6-8 yards at a time, then throws a successful pass every now and then to keep the defense honest. I like a balanced but run-based offense.
 
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cutnjump said:
My favorite offense is one that maximizes the talents of its personnel, is executed well(effective and efficient), scores points and wins games. It is not a one size fits all deal as far as I am concerned. That Gretna team was extremely entertaining to watch and Vic Hall would have been a star at any level. Gretna would have been shy from a depth perspective(quality and quantity) to make a lot of noise in the highest ranks.
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Gretna had a lot of depth back in those days. I recall one game where the running back was injured. The backup started and gained 158 yards with 5 touchdowns, on I believe 8 carries.
Also in 2003, no one played both ways. I liked that, because I have seen too many players get worn down, going both ways.
 
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Gretna had a lot of depth back in those days. I recall one game where the running back was injured. The backup started and gained 158 yards with 5 touchdowns, on I believe 8 carries.
Also in 2003, no one played both ways. I liked that, because I have seen too many players get worn down, going both ways.
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Gretna took a no name that never even played QB before when Nick Miller got hurt and won state.. And yes, they beat some tough tough teams to win that championship in 2008.. That's how good that Gretna program was. Sad that those days are gone. Hopeful that they will regain that dominance.
 
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Hampton Roads 6 said:
With a little luck Gretna could have won state championship. in 2002, 2005, 2006, 2009, 2010, in addition to 03, 04, 07, 08, 2011.
We could have won 10 in a row.
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Coulda', shoulda' woulda' doesn't really count does it? Lot's of teams can say that. But you're right, almost every Championship requires some luck.
 
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True. I don't think I have ever seen anyone win it all without lady luck playing a part at least once in playoffs.
 
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True. I don't think I have ever seen anyone win it all without lady luck playing a part at least once in playoffs.
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Now that you mention that.. hmm yea thats pretty darn spot on. Maybe those Hampton squads of the mid-90's (?) But other than that..
 
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Now that you mention that.. hmm yea thats pretty darn spot on. Maybe those Hampton squads of the mid-90's (?) But other than that..
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2011, 12 Briar Woods. Destroyed absolutely everything in their path with extreme prejudice. Everyone else in 4A were mere fleas on an elephant.
 
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