And since you had to bring me up, I can see you thought I'd be the only one to dispute your normal type of posting. Sidney wasn't smoking any weed when he was running sprints in the SandersonSaturday. I have no idea whether or not any of our players smoke weed. I do know this, you will go to all lengths to try and destroy Stansbury and why is anybody not surprised you would come on here with some more BS. I don't know you, dawgstudent, or anybody else on here but one thing is obvious, you would rather us lose to prove your egomaniac point than relish success like most MSU fans. Of course, you could care less if you destroy a couple of players along the way to promote your agenda. I feel sorry for you and I will be the first to tell you that nobody wants MSU to win more than me and if Stansbury falls on his face this year, then Scott has to reevaluate. Until then, why not give us a break and just shut up until November. You would do the whole board a favor. Talk about baseball, condom selling, how to start rumors, or anything else, but let our staff and players do their jobs until then!Coach34 said:
Oh yeah, since we all love rumors around here...
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i also agree with DS, and here's why: If C34 could choose between Stansbury remaining our coach for the next 10 years with a guaranteed 2 sweet 16 appearances and a final 4 appearance, or Stansbury sucking next year and getting fired with no other guarantees of any kind - I honestly believe he would choose the second scenario just so he could be "right" and have some fake "message board cred" in his own mind.
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thank you Sir for being one of the precious few in this thread to understand why I brought this out.
I'm not a closet Rebel
Meo didnt turn me down for a date
Stansbury didnt bang my girlfriend
I dont want to be right more than I want State to win
I simply want to feel like our program is being led in the right direction, we are working hard to be recognized nationally, and that we have some semblence of a chance to advance in the NCAA Tourney- right now, I dont have that feeling, and I know many others feel the same way.
Dawgbreeze has 1,500 posts on here that include "I talked to Rick" or "I talked to the staff" and you can damn well bet he made the call about this one.
And the man who defends Stansbury and everything basketball no matter what happens- didnt deny it happened or call me a liar.
And the man who defends Stansbury and everything basketball no matter what happens- didnt deny it happened or call me a liar.
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I didn't call anybody and don't try and make me something I am not. I did see our strength coach and I had no idea about your latest rumor(vendetta) but frankly I don't give a **** unless it hurts the team. Sidney looked like he was working hard and he was not huffing and puffing like he was during the season. Keep on digging coach, you'll get in so deep one day you won't be able to get out and most of the board other than a handfull will be glad.
If this is true, then you've done a very, very poor job of representing this thought pattern on this boardfor at least the last 3 years. All ofyour posts are confrontational and belligerent, many involve name calling, andyou turn people off beforethey even have a chance to consider what may bea valid point. All of this time, I thought it was just because you were a douchey *******, but now I know the truth. You're simply not intelligent enough to putyour thoughts down as words. So instead of making well thought out valid points, you just post the same incoherent rants, rumors, and ineundos over and over again hoping that you will eventually pound it into our brains.Coach34 said:
And someone else made a good point earlier...you turn people TOWARD Stansbury with your irresponsible and incoherent drivel. Most of myMSU friends always accused me of being too critical of Stansbury years before Istarted reading the SPS. Now, I find myself always feeling like I need to defend him simply because you take **** way too far and often post completebullshit.
While this is 100% true and accurate, I don't think it's by mistake. There will not be one person on here making any pro-Stans posts or statements. Nobody "defending" Stans or "making excuses for everything he does" like 34 loves to rant about. So how do you get people to come out of the woodwork? Make outlandishly stupid comments bashing Stans and here they come. Now he has someone to argue with when before there was nothing. So he creates his own controversy so he will have someone to spar with.
There is absolutely no way the 2009 season should be considered an underachievement.We lost Rhodes, Gordon, and Hansbrough and were picked to finish 5th in the West by most pre-season publications as well as bySEC coaches. Instead we won the SECT, the SEC West, and got an NCAA bid. Most of us on here were saying before thatseason started that an NIT bid would be a big deal since we had a freshman PG, Barry"The Brick" Stewart as a shooting guard, and a 6'2 power forward.DawgatAuburn said:
I agree with all of the other stuff you wrote but to call 2009 a disappointment is simply forgetting what was expected of that team.
I guess what I recall was being in a good position to win the West and compete for the overall SEC at the midpoint of league play, then losing that 3OT game to LSU and going into a tailspin that resulted in us HAVING to win in Tampa to make the NCAAs.
I don't recall the preseason expectations. I know that by March we had lost several tossup games, and we probably should have at least split them.
I don't recall the preseason expectations. I know that by March we had lost several tossup games, and we probably should have at least split them.
I rarely get into the Stansbury discussions because both sides make it way too personal, and I don't enjoy reading all the ya-ya that accompanies what should be a legitimate discussion. BUT, all that ******** aside -- a couple of simple questions, as of April 12, 2011:<div>
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- Do you think Mullen has complete control of the football team? Is that team headed in the right direction?
- Do you think Cohen has complete control of the baseball team? Do you feel good about the direction that team is headed?
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</div><div>I don't know the right answer, and I am not one to pull for State to lose to cure problems... I'm too competitive. I want MSU to have the attitude Florida does -- they expect/demand to win in every sport, every time. You may disagree with the approach, but all I'm saying is that you can't blame C34, D@A, Fish, and the rest for being down on Stansbury. There's a gaping hole in our Big 3 athletic programs that needs to be addressed. Does anybody disagree with that?</div>
because there was nowhere else to go but up. But, so far, Cohen's two complete seasons were worse than Polk's last when he was getting ejected from games to try and get Raffo the job. He also has shown a Croomesque propensity to throw his players under the bus. He has been playing musical chairs with the rotation for 3 years now and we can't hit for ****.
If you mean control as far as players getting in trouble, baseball in general is a different demographic, so you won't see as much of that as the other two sports.
If you mean control as far as players getting in trouble, baseball in general is a different demographic, so you won't see as much of that as the other two sports.
If I was AD - he would have been gone after this season. What transpired in Hawaii was the last straw for me. I am basically in your shoes.
But at the same time, I don't openly hope for Stansbury to suck. Stricklin made the decision to keep him another season so I hope he can turn it around and get us back to going to the tourney.
But at the same time, I don't openly hope for Stansbury to suck. Stricklin made the decision to keep him another season so I hope he can turn it around and get us back to going to the tourney.
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I am not "pro-Stans" but I am pro-MSU. Makes no difference to me who the coach is as long as we win. I definitely would have fired Stansbury the second the season was over this year. However, that does not mean that I don't want to see him get things turned around because I have a personal agenda toward the guy. I can see why Stricklin would give him one more chance with the team that he has assembled along with the incoming recruiting class. If he can't get it done next year then it is pretty plain that he never will but I will be rooting for him because I am an MSU fan first and foremost.
There were alot of years during the last decade where the only thing for MSU fans to get excited about was MSU basketball. We were proud of the teams we had for their hustle, toughness, and defense. As awful as this past season was, it was the only time I can remember everbeing embarrassed to be a Bulldog basketball fan.
because from what I was told this afternoon - that rumor is completely false. Good try though Coach.
Next rumor from coach - Sidney can't swim therefore remains fat so he can just float.
Next rumor from coach - Sidney can't swim therefore remains fat so he can just float.
If I didn't "like to have a good time," then how come I knew Kodi was often at the bar or that he liked to get high on occasion. It never occurred to you that I was maybe at the same bar as he was or that I was at the same place he happened to be smoking? No, that couldn't be.
Dust yourself off and try again, because you failed.
Dust yourself off and try again, because you failed.
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See, I agree with you completely that stans needs to be gone.Coach34 said:
I agree with you that the best indicator is that he has had final four talent and not made the sweet 16.
I agree with you that he has not shown the right leadership in the form of discipline.
But I think your point is absolutely 17ing undermined by the way you brought this subject up.
I dont care if you root for state.
I dont care why you dont like Stans.
Your dislike for himand your redundant defending of your position on this message board has rendered your opinion pretty much worthless.
Stick to basketball and strategy. Hell talk about anything but your opinion of his coaching.
MAYBE you can get some credibility back. Until you can let this go, your obsession with this has developed a life of it's own.
HighPointDawg said:
If you smoke and average 20 and 10 on a sweet 16 team not a big problem.
If you are a fat lazy sack of **** or all you do is jack terrible 3s and are a sack of **** for a grossly underachieving program then it's a big problem.
Our program needs a little upgrade. Face the facts. I'm tired of seeing and hearing this **** all the time as a fan and a donor. Time for a change to this shitfest our hoops program has become.
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I think you're wrong. I feel the same way he does. The basketball program is a damn embarrassment to everything we love about our school. It needs to be changed almost to the point we needed a change from Crooms. I don't get how people think that our program will have long-term success with the way things are. We can have the same subpar results and still have discipline and a little character in our program or we could have some character and discipline and probably be better. If you, and anyone that thinks like it, think continuing down the path we are going with this program is the right way or we will be fine is a damn idiot. There are plenty of programs that are run with some integrity that have success and ours can too if we had a leader that had some stones. This program is in a downward spiral with no end in sight. Let the dipshits keep defending it I guess and let's keep having seasons that are well below expectations for the "talent" we assemble. I love our school and athletics which is the reason it pisses me off so much that our program is embarrassing and that we have alums defending it. Flame away stans supporters and show your ignorance.
Where are all these "Stans supporters" of which you speak?Just because some of us choose not to ***** 24/7 and make up **** about our program does not equal being a"Stans supporter". No one on here is defending Stansbury. Hell DS said himself that he would have fired Stans after this season. How is that being a "damn idiot"?dpaul6 said:
these idiots think that if you're not making up BS constantly, then you're a Stansbury supporter.
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</div><div>Doubt most basketball players would pass a drug test right now... at any level. Posting a rumor like this without any shred of cred is sort of a ***** move Coach, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was true. I used to smoke with some of the players, but none of them are on the current roster, and I sure as **** didn't name names around the wrong crowd or on the Internet.</div><div>
</div><div>It's just part of the culture. Shoot some hoops, roll a blunt... it starts in high school and on the AAU circuit. I saw it with my own eyes a decade ago.</div><div>
</div><div>I can understand being high and playing basketball. Couldn't do it myself, but I could see it working for people if they didn't get raging munchies and a deep desire to space out and listen to music like I do.</div><div>
</div><div>What I couldn't understand in high school was teammates getting high before football games. That **** always confused the hell out of me... but there those guys would be, making big tackles and running all over the place. Strange... guess it does different things for different folks.</div><div>
</div><div>Someone else made the point already, and I think this goes for most things in life... if you can smoke and handle your ****, so be it. But if you become a lazy piece of ****, it's probably a good idea to put the pipe (or blunt) down.</div>
</div><div>Doubt most basketball players would pass a drug test right now... at any level. Posting a rumor like this without any shred of cred is sort of a ***** move Coach, but it wouldn't surprise me if it was true. I used to smoke with some of the players, but none of them are on the current roster, and I sure as **** didn't name names around the wrong crowd or on the Internet.</div><div>
</div><div>It's just part of the culture. Shoot some hoops, roll a blunt... it starts in high school and on the AAU circuit. I saw it with my own eyes a decade ago.</div><div>
</div><div>I can understand being high and playing basketball. Couldn't do it myself, but I could see it working for people if they didn't get raging munchies and a deep desire to space out and listen to music like I do.</div><div>
</div><div>What I couldn't understand in high school was teammates getting high before football games. That **** always confused the hell out of me... but there those guys would be, making big tackles and running all over the place. Strange... guess it does different things for different folks.</div><div>
</div><div>Someone else made the point already, and I think this goes for most things in life... if you can smoke and handle your ****, so be it. But if you become a lazy piece of ****, it's probably a good idea to put the pipe (or blunt) down.</div>