Oil on the beach
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for what BP did. You can go check my posts...<div>
</div><div>But I will stand up for the industry, because not everyone deserves to be punished for what BP did.</div><div>
</div><div>Just as you are feeling the hurt from lost bonuses, I'll feel the hurt from a drilling moratorium (an unnecessary one at that). The difference between our situations is that you clearly see that the banking industry is FUBAR. While as an employee in the oil industry, I think our system is just fine... there were some 17ups at BP that's trying to ruin it for all of us.</div>
</div><div>But I will stand up for the industry, because not everyone deserves to be punished for what BP did.</div><div>
</div><div>Just as you are feeling the hurt from lost bonuses, I'll feel the hurt from a drilling moratorium (an unnecessary one at that). The difference between our situations is that you clearly see that the banking industry is FUBAR. While as an employee in the oil industry, I think our system is just fine... there were some 17ups at BP that's trying to ruin it for all of us.</div>
I said I had my doubts why they went to that method of collection, but since someone explained they were giving the money away I have never once said I didn't believe it.
Please, find my quotes saying such. I'll be waiting.
Please, find my quotes saying such. I'll be waiting.
It was Seshomoru who was adamant about BP lying to the press. http://sixpackspeak.yuku.com/reply/343891#reply-343891<div>
</div><div>Posts will be deleted and I am truly sorry for the slurs.</div>
</div><div>Posts will be deleted and I am truly sorry for the slurs.</div>
is that the corporate culture prior to the explosion was one of safety shortcuts, bottom-line thinking, recklessness, carelessness and foolhardiness. Additionally, the Bush administration turned the MMS into a frathouse, turning any oversight into offshore drilling along with a variety of other mineral extraction into a joke. The Obama administration came out swinging saying they were going to clean up the MMS, but Ken Salazar ended up being as much of a Big Oil ***** as anybody in the previous administration ever had been.
The sum total of the collusion between these self-serving idiots, murderers, environmental terrorists and greed-fueled sociopaths is the unbelievably multi-faceted armageddon playing out now.
You can clean up as much oil off the beach as you want. Indeed you must. But while necessary, it is little more than PR. The whole-picture devastation is far beyond the relative whiteness of the damn beaches. Everything from both BP's and the government's side has been barely more than a bungled PR effort to downplay the significance and real impact of the spill.
And yet the public, on balance, is rightly insensed. Imagine the outright rage if they had had the stones to tell the trught at every turn from the beginning.
The sum total of the collusion between these self-serving idiots, murderers, environmental terrorists and greed-fueled sociopaths is the unbelievably multi-faceted armageddon playing out now.
You can clean up as much oil off the beach as you want. Indeed you must. But while necessary, it is little more than PR. The whole-picture devastation is far beyond the relative whiteness of the damn beaches. Everything from both BP's and the government's side has been barely more than a bungled PR effort to downplay the significance and real impact of the spill.
And yet the public, on balance, is rightly insensed. Imagine the outright rage if they had had the stones to tell the trught at every turn from the beginning.
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I live on the beach. I know what's going on. I also know that you must make mistakes in order to better yourself, your industry, and the well-being on the rest of us. BP made one, a big one. And I'm hating every minute of it. I'm guessing you want to see us develop alternate energy sources? Yeah, me too, but when's that happening?
But I can step back and see the big picture. Do your part to help, instead of spouting your uninformed opinion. There will be plenty of blame to throw around later.
But I can step back and see the big picture. Do your part to help, instead of spouting your uninformed opinion. There will be plenty of blame to throw around later.
<span class="UIStory_Message">We are 72 Days into this mess, and oil is still leaking, a hurricane is in the Gulf, BP, Obama, & the Federal Govt don't really seem to care. The rigis leaking millions of gallons a day. BP and the Coast Guard have been hiding the amount of oil leaking from day one. BP has been underestimating the amount of oil leaking because they have to pay royalties and a fine for each barrel spilled, it's pretty damn clear that they have a plan, and it is not to stop the leak and clean up the oil in the most efficient manner possible. Waive the Jones Act, hire the Super-Skimmer and Supertankers to suck up this <span class="text_exposed_show">oil. They need to be collecting the oil as close to the source as possible, not waiting for the oil to drift to our coast lines, killing millions of fish and wildlife in it's wake. The way of life of the Gulf Coast will NEVER be the SAME Dawgbreeze's lifetime......</span></span>
(unless you were in New Orleans of course). This son of abitchhas been doing damage now for months... and has no signs of stopping. It will be much worse in the long run for the economy of the Gulf Coast states.
Yeah, a mistake like "oh darn, I forgot to run this safety procedure, but I caught it! Whew! Learned my lesson there!"
Not a mistake like "I just 17ed the planet, guess I learned my lesson."
(this is no dig at you) but I work for the Fed Govt (not the Coast Guard) but an agency that does a bunch of work on protecting LA from becoming a giant swamp and a GREAT deal of the problems that we experience are from dealing with the local governments. We try to get stuff done all the time, only to be delayed or stonewalled by local governments. Also, LA politicians (probably like others) are VERY corrupt.
/just adding my two cents
/just adding my two cents
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Dollabillz
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1) Exxon Valdez.....how to properly design and operate tankers
2) San Francisco earthquake/fire.....fire/building codes, new building standards, etc.
3) Titanic......new radar and positioning methods
4) Space shuttle tragedies....new techniques all around
5)9-11.....new security procedures and more world awareness
6) Katrina.....new and improved levee system
List goes on and on and on.
What some of you don't understand is that we are pioneering into no man's land out there. We'redrilling holes into oil reserves over a mile away from us - it is notan exact science - but it's what we have to do if we want the oil (now I fully expect you to go on a tirade about how we need new energy sources and other BS not directly related to this discussion). Nobody knew how exactly to do this.
Now our government (in public) and most of our people are boycotting BP, throwing tantrums, and having an ignorant point of view in general, acting as if BP wanted this to happen and wants this oil to spew daily into the water. Of course they've done some things wrong, what company/person hasn't?
You need to start thinking for yourself instead of jumping on the BP hatewagon.
2) San Francisco earthquake/fire.....fire/building codes, new building standards, etc.
3) Titanic......new radar and positioning methods
4) Space shuttle tragedies....new techniques all around
5)9-11.....new security procedures and more world awareness
6) Katrina.....new and improved levee system
List goes on and on and on.
What some of you don't understand is that we are pioneering into no man's land out there. We'redrilling holes into oil reserves over a mile away from us - it is notan exact science - but it's what we have to do if we want the oil (now I fully expect you to go on a tirade about how we need new energy sources and other BS not directly related to this discussion). Nobody knew how exactly to do this.
Now our government (in public) and most of our people are boycotting BP, throwing tantrums, and having an ignorant point of view in general, acting as if BP wanted this to happen and wants this oil to spew daily into the water. Of course they've done some things wrong, what company/person hasn't?
You need to start thinking for yourself instead of jumping on the BP hatewagon.
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Dollabillz
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for the blowout preventer NOT to work? Almost could have avoided all of this. Have you discovered yet that I know more on this topic than you?
Back to my original point, stop watching so much TV. This whole deal sucks alot more for me than it does you, I'm just not stupid.
Back to my original point, stop watching so much TV. This whole deal sucks alot more for me than it does you, I'm just not stupid.
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Dollabillz
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Still leaking? I don't think so. I don't remember another spill like this one. If you're going to believe those numbers are not skewed in the least little bit, are you going to believe this:
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Appears to me they "stopped" operations to pull up the blowout preventer. Well my question is how did they get the well back under control? Hmm.
with for instance the Space Shuttle missions - decades of research, the most cutting edge technological safety measures along with redundancy upon redundancy upon redundancy were meticulously put in place prior to even considering the mission. These soulless douchebags decided to skimp on a $500,000 remote cutoff switch and for what? I bet they wish they had spent the money, because the loss of which is the only thing they pay attention to. If the fallout of the gulf spill were but a rounding error to their profit margin, they would probably just write it off as a operating costs. Because when they incenerated 15 people in a refinery blast in 2005, and the only setback for BP was a loss of human life, they clearly didn't change their ways.
But the fact of the matter is major tragedies that could and should be avoided actually really haven't instituted real, intelligent and effective change in their respective arenas. It has produced lip service, a lot of certified ******** and political pandering, and ultimately - for the most part - a return to business as usual.
But the fact of the matter is major tragedies that could and should be avoided actually really haven't instituted real, intelligent and effective change in their respective arenas. It has produced lip service, a lot of certified ******** and political pandering, and ultimately - for the most part - a return to business as usual.