thought we should have made the NCAA Tourney this year. I thought we had too much talent and too much all around team chemistry to not be in the tourney. I think the question now is does anyone think that Byrne really thinks about replacing Stans. Ive bashed him a couple times for being a terrible in game coach, but said that hes a good recruiter and a good coach. But I think after a while, being a good coach and a great recruiter doesnt cut it anymore. We need NCAA Tourney appearences and SEC Championship Semi Finals and Finals appearances on a regular basis now. Weve recuited the talent to get there, but havent made it. I think Stans stays through next year, but if we underachieve again, how long can we keep him around? Does anyone on here think that Byrne may try to shake things up in the basketball program during the offseason?
Ok, so alot of people, including myself
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When a down year for you program still gives a legit shot at a division and overall SEC championship at the end of the season, it's a good thing. I know that we've had a couple tough losses lately, but we were one shot away against LSU from taking the conference lead. Again, for a rebuilding year, I don't see how you could get fired for that.
If we continue to struggle next season and miss the NCAA tourney again, his seat will definitely be warm. Sadly, I really don't see a lot of good happening next season. IF Jarvis comes back, we basically have the same team as this year and will continue to struggle rebounding and defending/scoring in the post. If JV leaves, we're in big, big trouble.
If we continue to struggle next season and miss the NCAA tourney again, his seat will definitely be warm. Sadly, I really don't see a lot of good happening next season. IF Jarvis comes back, we basically have the same team as this year and will continue to struggle rebounding and defending/scoring in the post. If JV leaves, we're in big, big trouble.
to expect to get to the tournament a year after losing his 2 best players plus another starter is idiotic beyond belief. Most people with half a brain knew this year would be a rebuilding year. I do think he needs go get there next year and should easily with all he has coming back
However, looking at the other side of the coin, it's Stans' fault that we don't have more experienced starters. Should we replace him? I'd say no right now, but I also thought the Kang would turn it around.</p>
The reasons were already stated, but very few teams with true freshmen PGs make the tourney. Next year should be the year.
Yeah, next year should be a big for us assuming we can keep everybody.... Stans does have his shortcomings coaching-wise, but he is still our all time winningest coach, and that says something. If we have a down year next year, maybe we should call him in... but I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt this year
We lose our 2 best players after last season. We move to this 4-guard experiment and lose to all the better non-conf teams we played. While our record soared, we were not beating quality teams. Never at any point this season did I think we were bound for the show.
You mean that many MS State teams with freshmen PGs don't make the tourney. I seem to remember many teams making deep runs with freshmens. Or did you forget about Derrick Rose at Mempho, Paulus at Duke. Oklahoma has 25 wins with a freshmens PG and a 2nd year coach who is less than 35 years old. Chris Paul had a pretty nice freshman year at Wake. In the era of one and dones in basketball, using the we can't go to the tourney with a freshmans is a poor excuse.
you didnt see Crooms being fired either when I told you and you wanted to "give Henig a chance" as well....If Stansbury misses the Dance in 2010- he is gone.
"We regularly compete for the conference championships"
Uhhh, no we don't. Come March, the committee that selects the best teams from the SEC each year to advance in the national tourney, we will be left out for the 3rd time in 4 years. The SEC averages 5-6 teams a year advancing, and 3 of the last 4 years we wont be one of those teams. Thats not competing for conference championships. Thats not being one of the best. 2002-2005 is long over. What have you done for me lately?
All Stansbury has to do to keep his job, is be one of the 5-6 best SEC teams next year. We'll see if he makes it happen.
"We regularly compete for the conference championships"
Uhhh, no we don't. Come March, the committee that selects the best teams from the SEC each year to advance in the national tourney, we will be left out for the 3rd time in 4 years. The SEC averages 5-6 teams a year advancing, and 3 of the last 4 years we wont be one of those teams. Thats not competing for conference championships. Thats not being one of the best. 2002-2005 is long over. What have you done for me lately?
All Stansbury has to do to keep his job, is be one of the 5-6 best SEC teams next year. We'll see if he makes it happen.
So, now they don't count because they were good? You idiots are amazing. For 3 years you toolsheds crawled Jamont's *** for being a ball hog, so now we've got a good PG but because he's a freshmens we can't possibly expect to have a tourney team. Now that's priceless.
It's not that they dont count because they were good. It is because when Pualus went to the sweet-sixteen as a freshman, he had Sheldon Williams and J.J. Reddick.
You named ELITE point guards on elite teams. Dee Bost is good, but he is not elite. And the talent around him falls short of all of the teams you mentioned in you previous post.
You named ELITE point guards on elite teams. Dee Bost is good, but he is not elite. And the talent around him falls short of all of the teams you mentioned in you previous post.
Bost has played well enough, and surely better than expected. If our juniors played up to their potential, we'd still have a good shot at this thing. I didn't think we'd make the NCAAs this year because Bost, Ravern, and Phil would struggle - not because Barry lays bricks and we can't find anyone off the bench to score.
If you think PG is the reason this team wont be making the NCAA Tourney, then you dont know **** about basketball</p>
10 days ago people here were talking about how we might finish 2nd in the SEC this year. Nobody mentioned a PG weakness then. Now that were are playing better teams, and losing, we suddenly "werent expected to do anything this year" and "cant do anything with a Freshman PG"</p>
10 days ago people here were talking about how we might finish 2nd in the SEC this year. Nobody mentioned a PG weakness then. Now that were are playing better teams, and losing, we suddenly "werent expected to do anything this year" and "cant do anything with a Freshman PG"</p>
And I would assume that most people that "know **** about basketball" would give me the liberty of being able to assume that any discussion about this team would include:
(a) we lost our two best players from last year's team
(b) we were actually young THIS year
(c) no matter the coach, we were rebuilding and no one expected us to even be in the running to be in the top half of the SEC.
(d) naming a list of PGs that are either current or future NBA stars should not count against my argument.
Bost is certainly not the reason, but the point is...this team is going to struggle at times. THIS team is ahead of where most expected them to be. Anybody that thought this team was tourney bound was kidding themselves. We can get into a pissing match about Stans all you want, but the fact remains...very few thought this team was going to the NCAA when the season started.