I agree. I hear a lot about KU but all of these moves are about football and that TV sets that watch it. Basketball is just peanuts.
Oklahoma having a "standing invitation" to the B1G?
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houston is the largest city in texas, maybe the BIG should get them.
the second largest city, san antonio, doesn't have much for college football
tcu is by dallas the third largest city
so instead of baylor and tcu, houston and tcu might be a better choice, for tv sets and recruits.
the second largest city, san antonio, doesn't have much for college football
tcu is by dallas the third largest city
so instead of baylor and tcu, houston and tcu might be a better choice, for tv sets and recruits.
It's OU and KU or two ACC teams. UConn has an outside shot, but Houston has none. Houston was just a big XII candidate, but isn't even on the B1G radar.
You are going by population just within city limits, which is pretty much worthless. To call the San Antonio market bigger than the Dallas market is laughable. TV people go by media markets that enclose the entire group of people surrounding that city. San Antonio was aggressive in annexing surrounding land into the city, and it has hardly no suburb population. Dallas and Ft Worth and all the corresponding suburbs are considered one market by TV people.
KU is in the B1G's radar and the B1G has done homework on them. Just like they were in 1993 when they added Penn State.
KU and Mizzou were discussed as a western team that could have been brought in if the Big 8 folded to the Big 12. Here is the article back in December of 1993 discussing this topic.
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/...ommissioner-jim-delany-big-southwest-missouri
I think Delaney realizes KU/OU are the best fit and the most attainable. UT/ND just aren't realistic and come with too much baggage.
I'm gonna have to eat an awfully large helping of crow if this ever proves to be untrue...but OU isn't leaving the Big 12. I am amazed so many invest so much time thinking they are leaving that conference, to join ours. It isn't gonna happen. OU literally owns that conference and they love Texas....it isn't gonna happen, ever.
I don't think it is a mess at all to be honest, I think people exaggerate the demise of the Big 12 and have since the day we left.
KU was slightly ahead of Nebraska in athletic revenue for the last year USA Today had it although I swore when I saw the most recent numbers NU was ahead by a couple million. Either way, it's neck and neck. Would be exactly at the midway point in the Big 10 (by revenue). Basketball generates plenty of money. And the potential upside of basketball is substantial because right now, a relatively small percentage of Tournament money goes to participants. When some of the football revenue increases dry up, they'll look at basketball next because there's a billion dollar per year pot of money where far too small of a percentage is going to the major conferences.
Athletic revenues
http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances/
As far as TV markets, KU would bring in-market TV rates for all of KC. Same way Mizzou got SEC Network on standard TV on the Kansas side of the KC metro (and in-market carriage rates). KU hoops is one of the few basketball programs that can generate football game like TV ratings, but on a Monday night.
Athletic revenues
http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/finances/
As far as TV markets, KU would bring in-market TV rates for all of KC. Same way Mizzou got SEC Network on standard TV on the Kansas side of the KC metro (and in-market carriage rates). KU hoops is one of the few basketball programs that can generate football game like TV ratings, but on a Monday night.
Nothing to revise. He's right. OU will never be a part of the BIG... ever.
Read @flugempire, he's been following realignment closely for years. In fact the OU to B1G possibility in 2025 is stronger than you think. OU and UT are far apart right now.
Step on whatever branch you want, but you vastly underestimate the significance of KU basketball. I've linked it several times before, but Frank the Tank had an analysis of this in 2010 and KU was at 46 million (compared to Notre Dame 47 million). KU is one of the truly elite basketball schools that transcend the conventional basketball math. They kill it third tier. Like NU football, it is a national brand watched coast to coast.
Furthermore, the dilutive/accretive argument is for the checkers crowd. This was B12's reasoning when they passed on Louisville. They missed the bigger picture. They had the ACC on the ropes and they didn't act and the ACC flipped the script on them. Thankfully, Delaney has proven to be more of a chess guy.
At this point, UCONN makes as much sense (or more) than KU. Best public U in the northeast, FB now sucks less than KU and round ball has four titles since 99.
No thanks. As long as OU is in the Big 12, I am right. Until they move, anyone who says they relocating, is wrong.
Texas and OU is like McDonalds and Burger King. They thrive off of each other which is why they always build one next to the other. If OU leaves Texas behind and moves the B1G, they lose that healthy competition and a legitimate shot with a lot their Texas recruiting base. It is never going to happen, ever.
You're old world thinking is dated. For example, last week OU pushed for adding two teams to the big 12 but was blocked by UT. The result was Borens statements about not being content at 10 with no Conf tv network and kirk bohls article saying things are great as is.
Read @flugempire then come back.
Is Danzig still part of Germany? That's about how current you sound.
You're previous premise is OU/UT are working together on this, but their actions contradict your conclusion.. We're talking future. Read. Reading is good.
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I say bring on OU & KU. Would be a perfect fit. Football, basketball, recruiting down in Okla. I can't think of a downside.
it's much more pleasurable at this time of year, focusing on possible expansion senerios.
then trying to comprehend, 18 year old recruits definition of "commitment".
for me anyhow Cool
Whether or not Danzig is part of Germany is not relevant. OU really IS still part of the Big 12...currently.
I did read the twitter posts containing Flugaur's opinions. It doesn't change what I firmly believe. OU will NEVER, ever, be a part of the Big Ten.
The SEC?...possibly.
At the end of the day, I don't think OU wants to go to the Big. More importantly, I don't think the Big will ever take OU.
Last summer there was a OWH article that both KU/OU had been vetted by the B1G - I think the Delaney would take the pair if he can't get the ACC schools he likes (UNC/UVA/Duke/GT) or ND/UT. Given how far fetched the latter two groups are, KU/OU is the easiest pickings. I do agree that the SEC is an option though, but when you look at OUs self described academic peers on the university website, they are made up of B1G and Big12 schools, not the SEC. Regardless, I think we are 5-10 years away from OU moving though.