wants to revoke Highland Plantation's resort status and effectively kill Cowbells. Cutting off a source of tax revenue in this economy sounds like a great idea.
Starkville Daily News Article
Starkville Daily News Article
Oktibbeha County's illustrious sheriff
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wants to revoke Highland Plantation's resort status and effectively kill Cowbells. Cutting off a source of tax revenue in this economy sounds like a great idea.
Starkville Daily News Article
Starkville Daily News Article
wants to revoke Highland Plantation's resort status and effectively kill Cowbells. Cutting off a source of tax revenue in this economy sounds like a great idea.
Starkville Daily News Article
Starkville Daily News Article
wants to revoke Highland Plantation's resort status and effectively kill Cowbells. Cutting off a source of tax revenue in this economy sounds like a great idea.
Starkville Daily News Article
Starkville Daily News Article
...but perhaps more prevention is needed on campus if alcohol is a huge problem. I mean, Auburn has there share of problems too but you can't shut down places that serve alcohol. Students are going to find it elsewhere if they want it that bad.
I didn't realize that Dolph Bryan was still the sheriff. I remember that name from my days in Starkville in the late 80s. He's been in office since 1976.Agree with him or not, 33 years as sheriff is commendable.
http://sheriff.oktibbeha.ms.us/
I didn't realize that Dolph Bryan was still the sheriff. I remember that name from my days in Starkville in the late 80s. He's been in office since 1976.Agree with him or not, 33 years as sheriff is commendable.
http://sheriff.oktibbeha.ms.us/
for Starkville.
I understand the sheriff's concerns but what can you do? Revoking the resort status will make that area even worse.
I understand the sheriff's concerns but what can you do? Revoking the resort status will make that area even worse.
...and obviously the SO hates having to deal with a place like Highlands in the county (in that respect, I don't blame them). I shudder to think what that place will look like in 15 years if the status is revoked and it continues down its current path.
For those of you in Starkville, is it really that big of problem or is this just another case of small-minded thinking getting in the way of progress? The article reads like some people, including the sheriff, are pissed that someone had the audacity to sell, gasp, beer in Oktibbeha County.
decent back then. But the roads were horrible and in some places you needed a 4x4 to get through. They promised the roads would be paved the next year. I didn't buy the house, thankfully, because it never happened.
If they would have gone ahead and paved the roads back then, they may have attracted a lot more home buyers instead of having to throw up those shotty duplex units and townhouses for students. Terrible planning.
If they would have gone ahead and paved the roads back then, they may have attracted a lot more home buyers instead of having to throw up those shotty duplex units and townhouses for students. Terrible planning.
get in, hang out in PL and drink and raise hell. It can be easily cured by the owners by hiring securioty gaurds to patrol the lot and run punks off. The owners are following ALL laws. I dont thin k the Supes will revoke it. They need the $$$$$. I am a big fan of Dolph Bryan and I understand his concerns. However, shutting it down would be a bad move.
if Starkville would legalize on-premise Sunday sales. Cowbells would lose its drawing power if there were other options.
I would guess that Dolph Bryan's position stems from the manpower he has to use to police the place. It's probably expensive and time consuming to continually send men to the Highlands on Sunday. </p>
I would guess that Dolph Bryan's position stems from the manpower he has to use to police the place. It's probably expensive and time consuming to continually send men to the Highlands on Sunday. </p>
developing neighborhoods and golfing communities; offer them the resort status and credits for building permits, re-landscaping and 3 different colors of paint that actually match the brick in the half bricked houses out there.
No. The place is a piece of ****. The roads, the housing, the wasted space that was a golf course, the landscaping (lack of), signage, etc. The whole place is a piece of **** and was doomed from the start. Anytime you go throw up a bunch of cookie-cutter homes its going to be a piece of ****.Optimus Prime 4 said:
As for the article, I am torn between the fact that this brings in alcohol taxes and revenue to a county which pretty much has nothing else, and the complete eyesore piece of **** the building is. Usually I would not be for regulating alcohol in any way but this place (like the development) was doomed from the beginning. I feel like the cops are the reason for all the arrests that have been made coming to and from the bar because they purposely set up roadblocks in the area all the time. Naturally, they are going to catch more drunk drivers coming from that place.
Dolph Bryan is part of the blue hair old people wing of the Starkville community. You know, sort of like LT and Ron Polk. He likes to do things the old Southern Baptist way so this does not surprise me at all. The fact that this place is in the Highlands, and considering that I have lived here for six years and been to the place once, makes me not really give a **** if it stays or not. Most places that attract the crowd it brings in tend to be the places I do not frequent. Shut down the Bin, or any place downtown, or Daves, and we have a problem.
I'm in different on Dolph Bryan, and in my recent years in Starkville living, going to school, and working I never had a run in with any of his guys, and the deputies we're always extremely nice when they came into my place of business.
That being said, all the local Starkvillians I work with were adamant that DB was a huge drug dealer or was taking kickback payments from other dealers. Your thoughts?
That being said, all the local Starkvillians I work with were adamant that DB was a huge drug dealer or was taking kickback payments from other dealers. Your thoughts?
A little of both I think. It's a problem because they choose to set up so many damn roadblocks, and Dolph Bryan's old *** would do anything to hurt alcohol sales in the county. Personally, I think Level 3 is a bigger problem. You will never change my mind on that one.graddawg said:
but there is noway cowbells should cause a manpower problem. Its not like highlands is in columbus or anything....its not more than a couple of miles from old west point road. Also the highway patrol station is damn near next to it.
I will say that the only two times I have been out there were on sundays to cheer on my fantasy football team and it was definitely a ***** trying to get back the couple of miles home. I'm not a big fan of the place other than sundays, but I will say that a little part of me dies every time a bar closes its doors in starkville.
I will say that the only two times I have been out there were on sundays to cheer on my fantasy football team and it was definitely a ***** trying to get back the couple of miles home. I'm not a big fan of the place other than sundays, but I will say that a little part of me dies every time a bar closes its doors in starkville.
The place is a dump. I was so happy to move out. There are no trees so every bug within 3 miles of your house decides to converge on the Highlands like a plague. Spiders especially.
The $'s coming into the county are to great for them to let this development go under. People live out there because you can get a 4 bedroom house for cheep. Having a bar inside the gates of that place is better than not having one. You want 1000+ people driving all over town to drink or do you want them walking down the street a couple hundred yards and back?
That being said take a look at the white fence along the drive in one Monday and you be the judge if drunk drivers are coming in and out of there. So many people run through the fence it looks like a war zone some days. The 3am deal is what I think angers the blue hairs around here.</p>
The $'s coming into the county are to great for them to let this development go under. People live out there because you can get a 4 bedroom house for cheep. Having a bar inside the gates of that place is better than not having one. You want 1000+ people driving all over town to drink or do you want them walking down the street a couple hundred yards and back?
That being said take a look at the white fence along the drive in one Monday and you be the judge if drunk drivers are coming in and out of there. So many people run through the fence it looks like a war zone some days. The 3am deal is what I think angers the blue hairs around here.</p>
Dolph goes to my church, and I know him personally. He is not a bad guy. I see both sides where people are coming from here, but I tend to think that place drives down the appeal of the real estate out there. Being a former resident of the highlands, I thought there was way too much drunk driving out there anyways, and this was before Cowbells even opened. It is just a place for drunk people to go after the regular bars close.
When there's a party to break up at 2am, can the deputies put a call in to a state trooper to take care of it? Also, how should the sheriff feel when he has to have double the Sunday manpower now as he did 10 years ago? If he's fiscally responsible at all, he should identify the problem and work to eliminate it.
Also... when you see one bar from your college days torn down to rubble and another burn to the ground, we'll talk about a part of you dying.
Also... when you see one bar from your college days torn down to rubble and another burn to the ground, we'll talk about a part of you dying.
I was just thinking that It cant be much more work to have another patrolman on duty on sunday night on 182. I guess you know more about the intricacies of the police force in the starkville area. And im sure your talking about Flo and Eddies with the burnt down bar... but which one was turned to rubble?
The sheriff is complaining for too many arrests coming from the area.
They set up roadblocks around that area all the time.
Naturally, the percentage of drunk driving arrests is going to be higher in that area.
They set up roadblocks around that area all the time.
Naturally, the percentage of drunk driving arrests is going to be higher in that area.
cowbell9 said:
I don't agree with cowbell9 very often, but I can tell you from personal experience. ..Dolph Bryan is a good and fair man. I had two run ins with the SO in Starkville, one of which was pretty serious. Both times Dolph Bryan was firm, but fair. It made a difference.
And I agree with the other posters, every county has a bunch of jealous idiots who claim their sheriff is on the take. Sometimes it could be true ( I know of a sheriff who took his inmates to the dentist to have teeth pulled, then stole their pain pills), but it's unfair to blanket all sheriffs with the statement.
I lived out there in 2001-2004. The people who originally built out there were royally screwed. They paid for the initial lots and build according to the original covenants. Different house plans were a requirement. Houses had to be brick or stucco. Then the owner sells out for a quick buck and converts it into student housing. The original home owners were stuck with rapidly decreasing property values and an abundance of cheaper housing. The owner was a dick who screwed a lot of folks just for a quick buck.