Ole Miss opening with Boise State in 2011...
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and it's not like either State or Ole Miss is shooting for the BCS Championship game. Play the soft schedule and worry about the SEC. Of course, you have to win the soft games too (see State vs Tulane, Troy, Maine, Houston)
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I love awesome away games to places like Austin, Oregon, GA Tech, etc but for Ole Miss and State, I think the best way is just to play cream puffs.
And why after years of playing weak non-conference schedules all of a sudden do this?
From watching MSU play these teams, I don't know how much exposure anyone really gets from playing a really tough schedule. It may get mentioned from time to time, but exposure in a bowl game not to mention all of the perks, extra playing time, and money are way more valuable than playing Georgia Tech.
If you are a SEC team, you should be able to draw well even if it is a I-AA school. If you play a lesser school- I-AA/Sun Belt type, just make those games into homecoming, opening game, or parent's weekednd so that you can offset the lack of a good opponent to draw well.
I do know that even this year, Ole Miss had trouble drawing for a team like Northern Arizona, and I suspect that may be why they are doing this. And even that is stretching logic.
From watching MSU play these teams, I don't know how much exposure anyone really gets from playing a really tough schedule. It may get mentioned from time to time, but exposure in a bowl game not to mention all of the perks, extra playing time, and money are way more valuable than playing Georgia Tech.
If you are a SEC team, you should be able to draw well even if it is a I-AA school. If you play a lesser school- I-AA/Sun Belt type, just make those games into homecoming, opening game, or parent's weekednd so that you can offset the lack of a good opponent to draw well.
I do know that even this year, Ole Miss had trouble drawing for a team like Northern Arizona, and I suspect that may be why they are doing this. And even that is stretching logic.
Playing one tough OOC team is fine and dandy, but when you have a schedule like we did last year, that's just stupid.
the SEC football conference strength and SEC basketball conference strength are vastly different but I still find it ironic that people piss and moan for harder basketball OOC schedules and easier football OOC schedules.
/i guess i like irony more than the next murderer
/i guess i like irony more than the next murderer
Mizzou went 8-5 and Wake went 11-3.
I don't like the idea of more than one good OOC game, but I do like the idea of one tough or at least interesting OOC game. Im looking forward to the Fresno game and now the Boise game.
Every schedule should have two cupcakes, one medium cupcake (Tulane) and one interesting OOC team.
Im pumped about seeing it happen. I doubt we win, but its fun and at the end of the day, that is all that matters.
I don't like the idea of more than one good OOC game, but I do like the idea of one tough or at least interesting OOC game. Im looking forward to the Fresno game and now the Boise game.
Every schedule should have two cupcakes, one medium cupcake (Tulane) and one interesting OOC team.
Im pumped about seeing it happen. I doubt we win, but its fun and at the end of the day, that is all that matters.
If you beat USM you get as much as credit as if you beat Tulane, if you lose, the people in the office that don't normally talk SEC football, will let you know that they are actually USM fans, and you will have to endure the Rick Cleveland article, and just wonder out loud why you played a game against an instate team that struggles to have any real footing in the state.
Is that Boise... who claims that they're a "national power"... is playing Ole Miss, instead of Alabama or Florida.<div>
</div><div>If they come down and beat Ole Miss, it'll continue the debate about letting the little guys get in the BCS bowls...</div><div>
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</div><div>If they come down and beat Ole Miss, it'll continue the debate about letting the little guys get in the BCS bowls...</div><div>
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Boise State proves that... They play 2 or 3 TOUGH games each year and they generally win them.<div>
</div><div>There's no way in hell they could play an SEC schedule and go undefeated and this is what pisses me off.</div>
</div><div>There's no way in hell they could play an SEC schedule and go undefeated and this is what pisses me off.</div>
When did Boise beat Georgia in a BCS Bowl?<div>
</div><div>Georgia trounced Boise in the regular season like 5 years ago... but I couldn't find the BCS bowl matchup you're referring too..</div>
</div><div>Georgia trounced Boise in the regular season like 5 years ago... but I couldn't find the BCS bowl matchup you're referring too..</div>
And see how that works...<div>
</div><div>The beat Oklahoma on a fluke game... (what an awesome game that was)</div><div>
</div><div>And they beat TCU... another mid-major (who I thought would've stomped Boise, actually)</div><div>
</div><div>I just don't feel like Boise could beat the heavyweights of the SEC... or even beat the mid-level SEC teams on a regular basis (one game, yes... because emotions will run high and it'll be their "super bowl")</div>
</div><div>The beat Oklahoma on a fluke game... (what an awesome game that was)</div><div>
</div><div>And they beat TCU... another mid-major (who I thought would've stomped Boise, actually)</div><div>
</div><div>I just don't feel like Boise could beat the heavyweights of the SEC... or even beat the mid-level SEC teams on a regular basis (one game, yes... because emotions will run high and it'll be their "super bowl")</div>
because even if they did 'pony up and play a real team like alabama', you'd still say "well, it was a one-game fluke."
at a certain point, if they keep winning the big games, you got to give them some credit. Oregon, OU, TCU. They've been to more BCS bowls than State and Ole Miss combined, so I'm kind of confused as to why you'd talk **** about them when their program is light years ahead of yours or ours.
if they had a full SEC schedule, no, they probably couldn't win either division, but ****, give them credit where credit is due. that's a good football team, and a fun one to watch to boot.
at a certain point, if they keep winning the big games, you got to give them some credit. Oregon, OU, TCU. They've been to more BCS bowls than State and Ole Miss combined, so I'm kind of confused as to why you'd talk **** about them when their program is light years ahead of yours or ours.
if they had a full SEC schedule, no, they probably couldn't win either division, but ****, give them credit where credit is due. that's a good football team, and a fun one to watch to boot.
I'm sure if they did beat an SEC team you'd have some reason that didn't count either. How about Utah beating the **** out of Bama? That count?
what would their record be? Boise's schedule is a joke. Last year they opened with Oregon, and if i'm not mistaken, their next decent opponent was TCU in the bowl game. Usually if they can pull off their season opener against a higher profile team, chances are they will go undefeated.Another thing, they don't get beat up like SEC teams do while playing each other. Their first 22 may be somewhatcomparable, but after that their depth drops bad compared to SEC teams. My guess is they would be middle of the pack at best in the SEC.
As far as OM playing BSU, I'd be willing to bet Coach Nutt was consulted before this wasdone, and I can hear him saying, "book it, we'll be ready".
As far as OM playing BSU, I'd be willing to bet Coach Nutt was consulted before this wasdone, and I can hear him saying, "book it, we'll be ready".
probably the last 20-30 years....and it's not like any of those teams have been powerhouses, generally speaking. Mizzou has been down forever and so has Wake until recently. I'm sure when you scheduled those games, your AD would have never thought those teams would be up and coming when your time came to play.
Here's a list of your OOC opponents the last 10+ years or so...
2009 - Memphis, SELA, UAB, Northern Arizona
2008 - Memphis, Wake Forest, Samford, ULM
2007 - Memphis, Mizzou, La Tech, Northwestern State
2006 - Memphis, Mizzou, Wake Forest, Northwestern State
2005 - Memphis, Wyoming, The Citadel
2004 - Memphis, Wyoming, Arkansas State
2003 - Memphis, ULM, Texas Tech, Arkansas State
2002 - ULM, Memphis, Texas Tech, Arkansas State
2001 - Murray State, Arkansas State, ULM
2000 - Tulane, Arkansas State, UNLV
1999 - Memphis, Arkansas State, Tulane
That's as far as I care to spend time on looking this **** up, but y'all have always scheduled this way. And to boot, before you were forced to play a Division opponent in the SEC, you scheduled the bottom-feeders of the SEC on a regular basis as well. Hardly ever played Bama and have pretty much always had Vandy on the schedule. Your history pretty much mirrors your past season. You beat no one and go to a bowl game. So very impressive.
Here's a list of your OOC opponents the last 10+ years or so...
2009 - Memphis, SELA, UAB, Northern Arizona
2008 - Memphis, Wake Forest, Samford, ULM
2007 - Memphis, Mizzou, La Tech, Northwestern State
2006 - Memphis, Mizzou, Wake Forest, Northwestern State
2005 - Memphis, Wyoming, The Citadel
2004 - Memphis, Wyoming, Arkansas State
2003 - Memphis, ULM, Texas Tech, Arkansas State
2002 - ULM, Memphis, Texas Tech, Arkansas State
2001 - Murray State, Arkansas State, ULM
2000 - Tulane, Arkansas State, UNLV
1999 - Memphis, Arkansas State, Tulane
That's as far as I care to spend time on looking this **** up, but y'all have always scheduled this way. And to boot, before you were forced to play a Division opponent in the SEC, you scheduled the bottom-feeders of the SEC on a regular basis as well. Hardly ever played Bama and have pretty much always had Vandy on the schedule. Your history pretty much mirrors your past season. You beat no one and go to a bowl game. So very impressive.
And Auburn paid Arkansas State $1M last year to come do a buy game.
To get Boise to come to our place for a buy game for only $900K is actually a pretty good deal. I'm sure the reason we were able to work it out is because there probably aren't many teams returning Boise's calls right now for OOC games, so we probably had a negotiating point. From what I read on it, it sounds like ESPN had something to do with this too. Either way, $900K is less than I thought we'd have to pay for a buy game like that. I'm sure ESPN sweetened the pot for Boise too.
To get Boise to come to our place for a buy game for only $900K is actually a pretty good deal. I'm sure the reason we were able to work it out is because there probably aren't many teams returning Boise's calls right now for OOC games, so we probably had a negotiating point. From what I read on it, it sounds like ESPN had something to do with this too. Either way, $900K is less than I thought we'd have to pay for a buy game like that. I'm sure ESPN sweetened the pot for Boise too.