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Glenn's Take

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Ah, idk about that. Pretty sure you can't win gold for "panic attacks".
I'm not talking about winning gold medals. I'm talking about money. I've seen a lot in this world and at this point in time I think you are better being a victim than being great. If you can post me some quote from anybody at ESPN condemning her for quitting that at the very least isn't forced to give an apology I will admit I was wrong.
 

DSmith21

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No, see my previous post. She is a champion for mental health and will make more money by quitting than she ever would have by winning. Being successful is a far second than being sympathetic in modern times.
Really? She is going to be a hero for quitting. Generation snowflake is soft. You are right maybe she can cash in for having a moment of weakness.

Prince Harry is sure making bank off being an abused multimillionaire beta male.
 
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Glenn's Take

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Built different


This is my biggest problem with gymnastics as a sport. Had Kerry Strug tripped on her way to the vault and broke her neck, they would have still won the gold medal. It was finalized about a minute and a half before by somebody else and the results just weren't finalized yet.
 
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ryanbruner

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Yes, she got the third lowest vault score, and withdrew. She got “lost in the air” and didn’t complete her last twist.

I don’t know what you’re referencing exactly. We’re discussing the team Olympic event in which she withdrew.
She’s been through a lot of **** the last 4-5 years. Her mind isn’t in the right place. She needs to step away. Let the girl live instead of tearing her down.
 

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She’s been through a lot of **** the last 4-5 years. Her mind isn’t in the right place. She needs to step away. Let the girl live instead of tearing her down.

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She competed and did very well, I believe. Though, I don’t know where she finished exactly, but I assume she won some events before the team event. She’s the greatest of all time according to all the experts. What happened with her vault is worth discussion. It was certainly out of character. I’m sure something happened during that run. Her words, she withdrew after the bad score to help her teammates.
 

ryanbruner

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She competed and did very well, I believe. Though, I don’t know where she finished exactly, but I assume she won some events before the team event. She’s the greatest of all time according to all the experts. What happened with her vault is worth discussion. It was certainly out of character. I’m sure something happened during that run. Her words, she withdrew after the bad score to help her teammates.
She also said that she’s dealing with some mental health issues which is completely justified given what she has been through. I’m sure she is struggling with a lot. From being the face of an Olympic team and country to dealing with the trauma from being abused.
 

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I find it interesting how each swimmer has a different stroke "beat". Some hit the left and right stroke in perfect rhythm, others are a half best off. I noticed that Ledecky hits that right side stroke early, and other men's swimmers even more so..

Gold and silver baby!
 

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I'm not talking about winning gold medals. I'm talking about money. I've seen a lot in this world and at this point in time I think you are better being a victim than being great. If you can post me some quote from anybody at ESPN condemning her for quitting that at the very least isn't forced to give an apology I will admit I was wrong.

Well you're talking two different things. I just don't see any way an athlete makes more money by quitting, even if it's a health issue. Sex change? maybe. But she's absolutely not better off for pulling out of that portion of the Olympics. And as far as I'm concerned.. he status as GOAT gymnast is certainly in doubt now. She has work to do. If you can't compete at the biggest stage, then you're not the best.
 

Glenn's Take

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Well you're talking two different things. I just don't see any way an athlete makes more money by quitting, even if it's a health issue. Sex change? maybe. But she's absolutely not better off for pulling out of that portion of the Olympics. And as far as I'm concerned.. he status as GOAT gymnast is certainly in doubt now. She has work to do. If you can't compete at the biggest stage, then you're not the best.
Correct, we are talking about 2 different things. Simone will win much bigger by quitting than she ever would have by winning.
 
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LineSkiCat14

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Correct, we are talking about 2 different things. Simone will win much bigger by quitting than she ever would have by winning.

Lol how? She was about to prove, without a shred of doubt, who the GOAT gymnast was. And that's a little bit in doubt at the moment.

Again, pretty sure having anxiety doesn't make the same amount of money as winning gold medals..
 

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You have more faith in this country than I do.

I mean, maybe elaborate a bit? I'm just trying to see how it's even remotely possible that Biles makes more money for backing out of the competition. She was good enough to get them gold. She would have cemented herself as the GOAT gymnast (still probably will..).

What exactly is she going to gain by leaving early? Are her book deals going to be better with less gold medals, but a tinge of anxiety? I don't think so.
 

Glenn's Take

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I mean, maybe elaborate a bit? I'm just trying to see how it's even remotely possible that Biles makes more money for backing out of the competition. She was good enough to get them gold. She would have cemented herself as the GOAT gymnast (still probably will..).

What exactly is she going to gain by leaving early? Are her book deals going to be better with less gold medals, but a tinge of anxiety? I don't think so.
Yes. Being "mentally challenged" is more valuable in today's society than winning. Not even close.
 
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I'm just tired of the big story being about someone who quit on their team. If she is going to compete some more then say you are and get out there. If not then hurry up and say it and get the spotlight off of yourself and back on your teammates. She's s major distraction right now.
 

ryanbruner

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I'm just tired of the big story being about someone who quit on their team. If she is going to compete some more then say you are and get out there. If not then hurry up and say it and get the spotlight off of yourself and back on your teammates. She's s major distraction right now.
She’s the best ever at what she does and she has to step away from her team. She’s going to be talked about. That’s how sports work. No one should have to explain this to you.
 
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She also said that she’s dealing with some mental health issues which is completely justified given what she has been through. I’m sure she is struggling with a lot. From being the face of an Olympic team and country to dealing with the trauma from being abused.
maybe she is, but did these issues just happen????
I just find it odd that she waited till she was on the biggest stage to make this announcement
it can not be denied that she let down her team mates and also kept some one else off the team
that wanted so desperately to be there
 

bigsmoothie

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If she competes in the individual events and wins gold there are going to be some butt hurt men on here. Can’t wait
 

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maybe she is, but did these issues just happen????
I just find it odd that she waited till she was on the biggest stage to make this announcement
it can not be denied that she let down her team mates and also kept some one else off the team
that wanted so desperately to be there
Who was kept off the team? There were other gymnast to step in and take her place.
 

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I feel bad for Biles, with all of the hours and hours of practice year after year to get here, and now she has apparently cracked mentally. I can't think of another time where an athlete of her caliber in any sport has had a mental breakdown like this. Some of you are saying she should solider on and "play hurt", but a mistake in her sport can mean a broken neck. There was a look of fear on her face when she was in the air and didn't know where she was on the vault attempt.
 

ryanbruner

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maybe she is, but did these issues just happen????
I just find it odd that she waited till she was on the biggest stage to make this announcement
it can not be denied that she let down her team mates and also kept some one else off the team
that wanted so desperately to be there
Mental health issues arent something that just lingers. It can come and go when you least expect it. She probably got there and a combination of different kinds of stresses became too much for her. Rock cat had a great post on Twitter last night…..

 
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Not too shocked at some of the comments on here. After all, it is the new norm for people to jump to conclusions with minimal knowledge of the subject, then express their outrage.

I was puzzled by her decision to withdraw until I heard the interview with former Olympian Tara Lipinski. She said that Simone Biles experienced what some athletes call “the yips”. As Tara was explaining it they showed Biles’ vault attempt where she suddenly looked lost while in the air, and she bailed out and landed without completing her mid-air trick. I can understand why she pulled out. I’ll reserve judgement on whether it was the right call or not. Not sure I agree with those that are calling heroic. I do feel sympathy for her. She was in a no-win situation.
 
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I believe Nassar is in prison. Simone Biles has been through hell. I think everyone needs to take a step back and realize that she may not be right mentally.
I think everyone should take a step back. Everyone. Not one person here knows what happened. The criticism may be valid. The defense may be valid. But, what is clear, no one here knows crap, except that she quit after he first bad vault, was not physically injured and her team was left with an insurmountable void.
 
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