OM and MSU vs. common opponents

[Homer J Simpson]

No smack intended. Had this nugget passed along to me earlier, and interested in y'alls thoughts.

Against common opponents (AL, AU and A&M), Ole Miss' offense has outscored MSU's all three times and has outgained MSU two of three. The Rebel defense has held the opponent to less yardage all three times and less points two of three times.

In total, OM has outgained those three opponents 1,133-999 and been outscored 83-82, while MSU has been outgained 1,323-954 and has been outscored 86-46.

 

[HammerOfTheDogs]

We're both 1-2

No smack intended. Had this nugget passed along to me earlier, and interested in y'alls thoughts.

Against common opponents (AL, AU and A&M), Ole Miss' offense has outscored MSU's all three times and has outgained MSU two of three. The Rebel defense has held the opponent to less yardage all three times and less points two of three times.

In total, OM has outgained those three opponents 1,133-999 and been outscored 83-82, while MSU has been outgained 1,323-954 and has been outscored 86-46.

And, yes, you did intend smack. Alabama brought it's A-game against a Top 10 tMSU squad, while cruising against a 1-AA level univervisty of Ole miss skool. Texas A&m was still finding out about itself against ole miss university, while it was a finely tuned machine against tMSU. Auburn still had hope of a good season when we imposed our will on them, while they had given up when you upset them.

You're an inferior school with inferior people. If James Meredith had tried to integrate Mississippi State, we'd have welcomed him with open arms, and kicked the **** out of any redneck racist who tried to mess with him.

 

[RocketDawg]

Alabama took us seriously and had a vendetta; they did not take the Bears seriously. They would moreso now.

AU was a better team at the beginning of the year than they are now. They have continued imploding, and I wouldn't be surprised if Alabama A&M beats them. It's gotten so bad on the Plains that even the president of the school is making comments on his potential firing ... something I've never seen happen before.

A&M is a much improved team from the first of they year. MSU was coming off the Alabama game debacle and played with no intensity whatsoever ... much like the Bears did the last half of the season last year. However, even with that, the OM offense certainly played them better than we did. Were it not of a very questionable coaching decision, you guys would have won the game, and should have.

 

[MStateU]

Here is another stat I came across regarding MSU and UM. When playing each other, UM is 0-3 in the last 1077 days.

 

[FISHDAWG]

nothing wrong with true observations ... and yes you intended smack, it must feel good after the stretch you guys have come through ... however another observation comes to mind - we have lost 2 games so far and we are still ranked in the top - 25 ... so if ya'll are better, where's the recognition other than with-in your own fan base ?

 

[FlabLoser]

Mullen let off the gas against Auburn.

Bama was very much up to play us, ranked 11th and #WeBelieve'ing all over the internet. If you think Bama was up to play Mississippi which hadn't done a thing in 4 years, you're nuts.

Texas A&M - you got us. That was by far Mullen's worst performance since he's been here. Also, Texas A&M is a lot better now than they were in week 3 or 4. Johnnie Football has twice as much career experience now as he did then. He is not turning the football over nearly as often. And its embarrassing that Mississippi received 6 turnovers in that game and still couldn't win.

 

[57stratdawg]

Uconn would beat Notre Dame? (Pitt being the common opponent)

 

[DawgNsuds]

Big 17ing deal

this will all be settled in 2 weeks where it really counts.

 

[GloryDawg]

Since Mullen has whipped you all three of his years at State and one of those years you went to the Cotton Bowl and State stayed home proves that comparing opponents don't mean jack. Each game is different and brings different clouds with them. So please stop the smack until Ole Miss beats Mullen.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

Listing stats is smack? How?

Ah, I see. It's all about WHEN we played them. Ok.

And somehow this discussion goes from a comparison of 2012 stats against common opponents to smack about Meredith's enrollment 50 years ago. Amazing. You're sure about that Meredith "open arms" thing btw? There were MSU fans on the Ole Miss campus protesting/rioting regarding his enrollment when he enrolled.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

Still trying to block the second half of last season out of my memory. Got so bad I literally quit caring. Spent the LSU game surrounded by LSU fans laughing my *** off at how bad we were. Watched the Egg Bowl from work and glanced at it a few times, but knew the outcome going in. Then the next day, forgot we'd even played. It was freeing.

I concur about the A&M game for both teams. I think y'alls game with Bama was hyped so much that with anything but a win, a letdown was due. Freeze has done a lot of good things for us, but running a play to pick up an inch on fourth down from the shotgun still ranks up there as one of the dumber coaching decisions I've seen. Hopefully he'll get wiser in time.

As for AU, it's becoming quite evident Chizik ain't a very good coach, but even with Newton you don't win a national title without some kind of coaching ability. I think they're REALLY missing Malzahn. Does feel pretty good for both in-state teams to dominate AU in the same year though. Guess money can't buy everything.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

Touche. That outcome is yet to be determined this year. The only thing there is to go on right now is stats against common opponents. That's why I listed those.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

Rankings? We were 2-10 last year. If we make a bowl in Freeze's first year, that's a helluva start. Most of were hoping for five wins this year. I for one have no aspirations of the top 25 this year. If we make it, great. If we finish 6-6 or 7-5 with a bowl, anything else is gravy. If y'all finish 7-5 with a bowl, it's disastrous given your start.

Remind me of rankings tomorrow. Beat LSU, y'all will still be there and deservedly so. Lose, and y'all will be every bit as unranked as us.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

Since Mullen has whipped you all three of his years at State and one of those years you went to the Cotton Bowl and State stayed home proves that comparing opponents don't mean jack. Each game is different and brings different clouds with them. So please stop the smack until Ole Miss beats Mullen.

Here's what makes me smile about quotes like these. The very year you reference, the Cotton Bowl year where Mullen beat us the first time came the year after we beat his predecessor 45-0. We were just as cocky as some of you sound entering that game.

Sometimes it is amazing what a difference a coaching change can make, isn't it?

 

[HammerOfTheDogs]

Listing stats is smack? How?

Ah, I see. It's all about WHEN we played them. Ok.

And somehow this discussion goes from a comparison of 2012 stats against common opponents to smack about Meredith's enrollment 50 years ago. Amazing. You're sure about that Meredith "open arms" thing btw? There were MSU fans on the Ole Miss campus protesting/rioting regarding his enrollment when he enrolled.

No, a racist MSU fan is like a black republican- they're around, but it's an infintesmally small percentage of them. You can focus on them, but you really have to look hard. James Meredith would've been welcomed with open arms....a military vet (then again, that may have been why Ole Miss students rioted against him- getting an early start on assaulting our veterans, sorta like a Cal-Berkeley before it became Cal-Berkeley...after all, Rebels were the original anti-American flagburners, the 19th Century Jane Fonda's).

 

[OleYeller]

Here's a couple of stats for you. 6 gimmes and still lose. 0-2 against Vandy. Probably 0-3 after today

 

[OleYeller]

They just can't get away from it. Kind of like that statue they have in the grovey

 

[Homer J Simpson]

No, a racist MSU fan is like a black republican- they're around, but it's an infintesmally small percentage of them. You can focus on them, but you really have to look hard. James Meredith would've been welcomed with open arms....a military vet (then again, that may have been why Ole Miss students rioted against him- getting an early start on assaulting our veterans, sorta like a Cal-Berkeley before it became Cal-Berkeley...after all, Rebels were the original anti-American flagburners, the 19th Century Jane Fonda's).

Jesus, when this place become the Gene's page free board lite? If the arms were so open, why didn't y'all go ahead and start admitting blacks after the feds overturned Ross Barnett's order rather than waiting three years to admit your first? Good to see Old Yeller knows about the Confederate soldier statue. He must've missed Meredith's statue at the Lyceum.

I can only speak for myself, but I didn't witness racism in my five years, including grad school, when I was there. Two of my closest friends and coworkers as grad students in the journalism department are (gasp) black.

I did witness Richard Barrett get booed off the stage by whites and blacks alike when he spoke on behalf of Col. Reb. I did witness the KKK get booed off the stage, again by whites and blacks alike (one wore an Auburn hat beforehand btw) before the LSU game in 2009.

The Meredith enrollment was not a pretty chapter for Ole Miss, and it's one we won't be able to escape. I get it. I'm also not running from it. I am proud of the relationship the university has maintained with Meredith and the steps my alma mater has taken to change its ways since. You mention "they're around, but it's an "infintesmally" (What the 17 is that btw?) percentage." Last I checked, there's some 13-15,000 students on the Oxford campus alone. I guess a couple hundred out of that number protesting an election result with a handful of those tossing racial barbs doesn't qualify as an "infintesmally small percentage."

And seriously, how the hell did this go from a statistical comparsion of common opponents to a debate on which campus has more racists?

 

[Guy From Gulfport]

And seriously, how the hell did this go from a statistical comparsion of common opponents to a debate on which campus has more racists?

Introspection is key, here... ;-)

 

[RocketDawg]

Agree with everything. Freeze is a much better coach than just about any of us expected. Either that, or the players just decided to play for the coach ... perhaps anyone who isn't Nutt could have turned the team around. Probably a bit of both. And getting Wallace didn't hurt ... he's doing a good job. The Egg Bowl will be interesting this year.

 

[Barkman Turner Overdrive]

Watched the Egg Bowl from work and glanced at it a few times, but knew the outcome going in.

Hope you didn't get in trouble for letting the fries burn. And before you say something about weak fast food employee smack, I would argue your "aGAINst common opponent stats" is just as lame. Not saying Mississippi won't win, but your little stat reminds me of how USM fans used to make them feel relevant.

 

[chew1095]

If football games were won and lost based on statistical comparisons, it would be called Dungeons & Dragons.

 

[johnson86-1]

And it would be awesome, b/c we'd probably be damn competitive.

engineeringschoolisafertilerecruitinggroundfordungeons&dragonsandfrisbeegolf

 

[Homer J Simpson]

Just presenting the stats. Offered no commentary on them, one way or the other. And yes, that was weak, even for fast food smack.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

Freeze is damn sure a much better coach than I thought he'd be. I loathed the hire initially (three years head coach experience in college with two in NAIA, Ole Miss connections, etc.) and fully expected the team to get even worse for the next three years.

 

[hotdigitydog]

So, basically what you're trying to make a case for is that if team "A" beats

team "B" and team "B" beats team "C" then team "A" beats "C".....You are an idiot..........Football is a game of matchup........

 

[CadaverDawg]

This douche sent me a PM last time he started **** like this...

After I called him out. He tried to say "no smack intended"....horseshit. Dude is a troll, no need to waste your time on this nonsense. The only reason a guy like this would post this **** is because he wants so bad for us to think OM is relevant, so he tries to spark talk on our board with **** like this. He's eating this **** up.

 

[hatfieldms]

Luckily we get to find out who the better team is in a couple of weeks

Now go strap your bow tie on and head out to the grove. Just try not to commit to many hate crimes on the way out there

 

[Barkman Turner Overdrive]

^^^THIS^^^^
Fap away Homer J.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

Forgot about the private message I sent you and just saw your reply. I sent that message because, as I noted, the thread I attempted to reply to you on was locked. Regarding obsession, save for the joke I made that began that whole thread, I pretty much commented in stuff pertaining to MSU fans' discussion of Ole Miss.

The statistics that I posted are simply that, statistics. I offered no commentary on them. I didn't say or imply it makes us look better and y'all look worse. If you want to read more into it than that, go for it.

 

[HammerOfTheDogs]

You come on here with "not a flame, just a comparison" smack.....

What do you expect?

 

[engie]

Playing the statistics game...

We can all do that. A little later on, I will draw a little comparison for you between the current MSU run and the best OM run of the past 40 years, including comparing Tyler Russell to Eli Manning as a college quarterback.

Stay tuned...

 

[Homer J Simpson]

Just try not to commit to many hate crimes on the way out there

Now THAT'S pretty damn funny. Tip of the hat sir.

 

[Homer J Simpson]

Show where where I made any kind of 17ing case for that, please.