OM shuffled up their OL yesterday

57stratdawg

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Be interesting to see how that plays out.

Moved Rod Taylor to OT
Moved Sean Rawlings to OT
Moved Carlton Martin to OG

Looking at that list, I'm pretty sure we wanted every one of those players at some other position than the one they're currently at.
 
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missouridawg

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Be interesting to see how that plays out.

Moved Rod Taylor to OT
Moved Sean Rawlings to OT
Moved Bouldin to OG
Moved Carlton Martin to OG

Looking at that list, I'm pretty sure we wanted every one of those players at some other position than the one they're currently at.

I'll take Methods of Evaluating Football Talent for $1000, Alex.
 

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I'm not going to read much into that. Rawlings will be their future C. Boudin will be the 1rst OG off the bench and Rod Taylor will be 2nd. Conyers will be the 1rst tackle off the bench. The only way those are legitimate position changes is if Still isn't getting it done at C and they are moving Conyers there. Then they'd need to figure out who OT #3 would be. That said, I don't think Taylor or Rawlings would work out at OT.
 

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I'd love to know what McCready is saying about Fahn Cooper. Their season is basically riding on his shoulders...
 

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Bouldin has been at LG since he got here. Taylor is learning RG and RT. Hopefully we will stay healthy so Rawlings can redshirt.
 

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What I've heard

I'd love to know what McCready is saying about Fahn Cooper. Their season is basically riding on his shoulders...

Is that he is physically a monster. Bigger than Tunsil. Not better but every bit as physically imposing. All but a foregone conclusion that he'll start at RT over Conyers. Should anything happen at LT, he'd slide over and take over. He has 1 and done upside. I'm sure the biggest issue is learning the system, etc...

Their OL is a lot like ours in the sense that if the first 5 stay healthy, they'll be good. Anything funky and it will get dicey.
 
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RockstarFromMars

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I think Fahn will be fine. He is the clear leader at RT and will move to LT if Tunsil goes down. He is already getting LT reps in case, but we are in trouble if that happens.
 

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If Rawlings steps foot on the field this year, we are in a bad way.

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Tunsil

Tunsil is the only one I've ever heard of from
Ole miss university... Except for the guy we tried to get from MRA- Sean something...
 
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engie

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Dillon Day. Without looking it up, that's the only name I can remember. I remembered Siddoway and Jackson, but I think those are both gone, right?

So you wouldn't be able to name a 4th yr starter at left tackle?

Given the amount of time you spend here -- I find that really hard to believe.
 

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I'm impressed with how un-informed you are regarding our offensive line. I, likewise, am ignorant of your offensive line. So go *** yourself and may the best offensive line win.

edit: In my opinion, the offensive line is THE most crucial squad on the college football field.
 
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RebelAlumnus

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I know there is some kid the OM DL embarrassed as a freshman(?) a couple years ago but I don't know if that's the same one, and I can't remember his name. He was the one fighting with that defensive tackle for playing time.
 

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I know there is some kid the OM DL embarrassed as a freshman(?) a couple years ago but I don't know if that's the same one, and I can't remember his name. He was the one fighting with that defensive tackle for playing time.

I've never been a math wiz, but 4 of 5 doesn't leave much room for embarrassment of any kind. Neither does the numbers 31-3 or 2-10.

Wictory Wed to the Wescue!
 

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I'm impressed with how un-informed you are regarding our offensive line. I, likewise, am ignorant of your offensive line. So go *** yourself and may the best offensive line win.

edit: In my opinion, the offensive line is THE most crucial squad on the college football field.

I will agree with this.

While our OL is definitely our biggest concern, Luke (our OL coach if you're as un-informed about our staff as I am yours) feels he has more to work with this year than he had the last two seasons.

I think he's right. I think we're more talented. The problem is that a lot of those players in our rotation will be playing their first extensive college action 2 weeks from now. Experience is a big issue for us up front, but the overall number of SEC-ready players should be better this year than the past two.

They're starting to settle on a rotation for the OL, but due to the number of new faces in our rotation this year, they've been doing more shuffling than usual this fall to make sure they know where everyone can play.

Rawlings shouldn't play this fall. He's likely to be the center to take over for Still/Conyers in a couple years, but if he's good enough, they may find him some time in a reserve role somewhere else next year. I'll bet they find playing time for Taylor, most likely at one of the guard spots.

The good news is, by next year, we should have a pretty solid and deep OL. We return pretty much everyone. The only two seniors on the roster aren't in the rotation.

In fact, you could say that about a lot of positions for us looking toward 2015. We'll return a lot going into 2015 and probably have a better team overall. The only challenge, and it's a big one, is replacing a 3 year starting QB, but every other position on the team should be just as good or better in 2015 compared to where they'll be in 2014. We lose guys like Prewitt, Bryant, Golson, and Shackelford too after this season, but we have depth and talent at those positions that will have experience.
 

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Rod Taylor to OT? I thought he was a little short to play OT
 

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Taylor is learning both. Our staff likes the first 5, and they like the next 3 (Bouldin, Taylor, and Conyers). They're getting all 3 reps inside and outside in case something catastrophic happens. Conyers is something like the #2 RT and #2 C right now. Past those 3, there is a drop off. I suspect Taylor to play OG unless he is absolutely needed.
 

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Taylor is learning both. Our staff likes the first 5, and they like the next 3 (Bouldin, Taylor, and Conyers). They're getting all 3 reps inside and outside in case something catastrophic happens. Conyers is something like the #2 RT and #2 C right now. Past those 3, there is a drop off. I suspect Taylor to play OG unless he is absolutely needed.
True freshmen in the rotation, good luck with that. You can't block jack@&# and good luck with our front seven again. You better get some Tuberville smoke & mirrors going if you want to have a chance for a decent season.
 
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coach66

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Bouldin may end up being pretty good but I know from speaking with one of our

coaches that we passed on him and for us to pass on an offensive lineman, well he must have issues.
 

RebelAlumnus

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I know this is hard for you to imagine, but maybe your coaches misevaluated. He's one of the strongest players on the team as a redshirt freshman and is backing up two guard spots. Y'all have missed on OL over the years with Mullen so it's not like they're flawless.
 

coach66

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They said he couldn't move very well but that he was strong. I guess we are

about to find out. He may turn out great.
 

RebelAlumnus

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I think your coaches should know as well as any that you can't teach things like strength and size...you can teach someone technique. Sounds like excuses for a player they misevaluated or just had no chance with.
 

coach66

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Could be, I was just sharing what I was told. I have not seen him play.

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Sandman.sixpack

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I know Darante and his mom and have known them since his junior year of high school in Jackson. There was no misevaluation. He had solid committable offers from both schools. He committed early to the Bears and our coaches recruited him hard all the way up to signing day trying to get him to just come to Starkville for a weekend and change his mind, etc.
OM's coaches evaluated him as the top OL in Mississippi two years ago. Our coaches were high on him, but not as high as OM's staff. But we certainly recruited him hard all the way to signing day and tried to sign him.
He is 6'5", 325 and reportedly the strongest player on OM, team. He must have at least pretty good feet or they wouldn't have looked at him at tackle. They are projecting him as a three year starter beginning next year.
Both teams have lots of good kids on our rosters.
He is a gym rat and a hard worker. Solid morals and values. He'd be a huge asset to our team as a leader and a player.
Shame on you 66, for insinuating or even mentioning he "must have issues".
 

Shamoan

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I know Darante and his mom and have known them since his junior year of high school in Jackson. There was no misevaluation. He had solid committable offers from both schools. He committed early to the Bears and our coaches recruited him hard all the way up to signing day trying to get him to just come to Starkville for a weekend and change his mind, etc.
OM's coaches evaluated him as the top OL in Mississippi two years ago. Our coaches were high on him, but not as high as OM's staff. But we certainly recruited him hard all the way to signing day and tried to sign him.
He is 6'5", 325 and reportedly the strongest player on OM, team. He must have at least pretty good feet or they wouldn't have looked at him at tackle. They are projecting him as a three year starter beginning next year.
Both teams have lots of good kids on our rosters.
He is a gym rat and a hard worker. Solid morals and values. He'd be a huge asset to our team as a leader and a player.
Shame on you 66, for insinuating or even mentioning he "must have issues".

he didnt insinuate, he speculated. nothing wrong with that.
 

coach66

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Shame on me for saying he has bad

Footwork? I'm so tired of people trying to start **** here and there when just having a discussion. Shame on you for being narrow minded and jumping to an absurd conclusion. YOUR a dumbass.
 

Sandman.sixpack

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Nothing wrong with saying something about the footwork. You said he "must have issues". Talking about athletic skills is one thing. Attacking the kid's character is out of bounds unless you can back it up.
And Shamoan.... "must have issues" is NOT speculation.
 

coach66

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You are dumber than I thought. I was

Talking about his speed, agility and footwork for the third time. Just to be sure I confirmed with Deep what the coach told us, no offer.
 

Shamoan

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"well, he must have issues" is 100% speculative. you couldnt possibly be more wrong. if he said "he has issues", that is a different story, but thats not what he said.