One big difference between Stein and Stoops teams...

[Battle_Cat]

Coach Stein has the boys ready to play every damn game on the first snap. It was optional for Stoops coached teams.

 

[Jazzycat]

Better coaching, for sure. Minchey, Baxter, Patterson and Green are above average players and the offensive sets are being executed well. This team has a good deal of upside and will only improve from here - barring injuries.

 

[*Fox2Monk*]

Imagine if Darby caught that easy TD.

 

[CUJO_1970]

Kentucky is relieved of the dead weight and dysfunction that permeated Stoops later years.

Being rid of Calipari, Barnhart, and Stoops is like having a bunch of demons cast out of the program.

 

[Cattorney]

Kentucky is relieved of the dead weight and dysfunction that permeated Stoops later years.

Being rid of Calipari, Barnhart, and Stoops is like having a bunch of demons cast out of the program.

Not until Pope is gone too.

 

[sefus12]

Folks need to stop bashing Stoops. It didn't end how anyone wanted (I'd bet Stoops would say the same), but he gave us some of the best UK football seasons many of us have ever seen. Be upset with how it ended, but acting like he was a failure shows how damn immature or ignorant some of you are.

 

[rick64]

You don’t see so far issues getting plays called in time. Or poor clock management. Being content with a lead before halftime with time left on the clock to try for more. Love it!!

 

[kyhankypanky]

Folks need to stop bashing Stoops. It didn't end how anyone wanted (I'd bet Stoops would say the same), but he gave us some of the best UK football seasons many of us have ever seen. Be upset with how it ended, but acting like he was a failure shows how damn immature or ignorant some of you are.

Both things can be true.

Loved the good years with Stoops, but he left a permanent bad taste in the mouth the way he handled the last few years. Said it then, and I’ll say it now, he sabotaged his legacy. Just the way it is.

But let’s quit focusing on Stoops. That deadbeat is gone, and we MAY have ourselves a legit coach!

 

[sefus12]

Both things can be true.

Loved the good years with Stoops, but he left a permanent bad taste in the mouth the way he handled the last few years. Said it then, and I’ll say it now, he sabotaged his legacy. Just the way it is.

But let’s quit focusing on Stoops. That deadbeat is gone, and we MAY have ourselves a legit coach!

Finishing by saying he's a deadbeat shows you don't think much of him at all. Stein aside (I've loved that hire since day 1), acting like Stoops was a failure is simply incorrect. I don't know why some of you have to bash him in order to boost Stein.

And just so some of you know, the vast majority of coaches leave a job because it didn't end how fans wanted it to. Stoops is in that boat, but let's stop acting like that's an anomaly.

 

[kyhankypanky]

Finishing by saying he's a deadbeat shows you don't think much of him at all. Stein aside (I've loved that hire since day 1), acting like Stoops was a failure is simply incorrect. I don't know why some of you have to bash him in order to boost Stein.

And just so some of you know, the vast majority of coaches leave a job because it didn't end how fans wanted it to. Stoops is in that boat, but let's stop acting like that's an anomaly.

Yes, I don’t think much of Stoops. Doesn’t mean I didn’t enjoy some of his teams.

I am not bashing Stoops to elevate Stein. I suggested the opposite- let’s forget about Stoops. I only brought him up to reply to your comments. Happy to quit talking about him.

 

[*Fox2Monk*]

Kentucky is relieved of the dead weight and dysfunction that permeated Stoops later years.

Being rid of Calipari, Barnhart, and Stoops is like having a bunch of demons cast out of the program.

Yup now Pope needs to step up or step off.

 

[*Fox2Monk*]

Folks need to stop bashing Stoops. It didn't end how anyone wanted (I'd bet Stoops would say the same), but he gave us some of the best UK football seasons many of us have ever seen. Be upset with how it ended, but acting like he was a failure shows how damn immature or ignorant some of you are.

Stoops was great till about Covid. After that he got lazy and fell off. His reverting when he could pay guys was terrible too. His lack of offense killed him in the end.

 

[*Fox2Monk*]

You don’t see so far issues getting plays called in time. Or poor clock management. Being content with a lead before halftime with time left on the clock to try for more. Love it!!

Kicking that FG was all the difference I needed to see between Stein and Stoops.

 

[Cats_2010]

Finishing by saying he's a deadbeat shows you don't think much of him at all. Stein aside (I've loved that hire since day 1), acting like Stoops was a failure is simply incorrect. I don't know why some of you have to bash him in order to boost Stein.

And just so some of you know, the vast majority of coaches leave a job because it didn't end how fans wanted it to. Stoops is in that boat, but let's stop acting like that's an anomaly.

Stoops had some success but he should have had more which his why he gets the grief he does. He coached like a scared little girl and had the worst clock management of any coach I have ever seen at his level.

 

[Dward13]

We haven’t had a consistent passing game for 13 years. That was always the thing holding Stoops back.

 

[Trinity45]

Not until Pope is gone too.

Stay on topic

 

[Tprinceuk]

Coach Stein has the boys ready to play every damn game on the first snap. It was optional for Stoops coached teams.

No way didn't you see kygent2's thread during the game.

 

[phunterd]

We haven’t had a consistent passing game for 13 years. That was always the thing holding Stoops back.

Yep. If Stoops had been able to put together just a top 40 offense, we routinely would’ve been a 9-10 win team. The defense was always solid. We just couldn’t consistently score.

 

[Cat_Man_Blue]

You don’t see so far issues getting plays called in time. Or poor clock management. Being content with a lead before halftime with time left on the clock to try for more. Love it!!

Against Bama with almost no time on the clock Kentucky ran a play with no time outs and lined up and kicked a field goal as the clock expired. That told me this staff can handle and prepares for those situations.

 

[ifer1116]

We haven’t had a consistent passing game for 13 years. That was always the thing holding Stoops back.

I think you mean the passing game was the thing Stoops was holding back.

 

[NociHTTP]

Yup now Pope needs to step up or step off.

I think he'll step up.

 

[Battle_Cat]

For the record I was/am a Stoops fan as well. He took the program from nothing to something. I made one observation that I see between how Steins teams come ready to play on the first snap that I did not always see with Stoops coached teams. He commented on it multiple times throughout his time here and was constantly mystified with his teams slow starts at times (not always). Stein seems to have that demon exorcised and I am here for it. Great W today for Stein, the program and the future of Kentucky football!

 

[K_TIME]

Stoops was great till about Covid. After that he got lazy and fell off. His reverting when he could pay guys was terrible too. His lack of offense killed him in the end.

Stoops was fine so long as he had a legit OC....as soon as Coen started the back and forth with NFL....Stoops had no answer for offense and late in his tenure having to get on Scangerello/Bush were disasters.

Seeing good to great coaches (Dabo, Fulmer, Orgeron, Jimbo Fischer, Bobby Bowden, etc...) all had great runs but where at the mercy of top notch assistants that when they left the program took major dips. The only coaches in last few years that were immune to losing assistants were Saban and Urban Meyer. Most of the rest really lean on valiable assistants to carry the load.

Stein will probably always have a handle on offense side of the ball....but he'll likley be in need of top notch defensive staff.

 

[PhattyJ]

Stoops would have let the disappointment of last week beat us this week.

 

[Cattorney]

Stay on topic

Or what?

 

[NineIsOnTheWay]

Folks need to stop bashing Stoops. It didn't end how anyone wanted (I'd bet Stoops would say the same), but he gave us some of the best UK football seasons many of us have ever seen. Be upset with how it ended, but acting like he was a failure shows how damn immature or ignorant some of you are.

Yea maybe BBN needs to chill in some stuff.

Wanted Stoops and Cal gone. But id rather them be retired and farting around Lexington than coaching for rival schools.

Would love if Cal was around like K is at Duke. Imagine K coaching UNC....

 

[BigBluefoot]

Stoops had some success but he should have had more which his why he gets the grief he does. He coached like a scared little girl and had the worst clock management of any coach I have ever seen at his level.

Yeah, his azz would tighten up like clockwork and I'm convinced it bled over into the players psyche.

 

[Artlaibesghost]

Several difference I've noticed. 1. Stein manages time/down /distance at end of half ang game better than Stoops ever did.
2. His offense is not predictable. We could run any play on any down, something NOBODY ever accused Stoops of.
3. We utilize our tightends as recievers instead of " block only" extra linemen. Agian nobody saw much of that from Stoops.
4.An Agressive Killer instinct. Fake punt, passing late with the lead , the kind of risks Stoops never took and squandered leads in at least 2 games a year because of it.