OOB Text Question - Would you vote Cam Newton to win the Heisman?...
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just like I would have voted Reggie back in 2005. Best players in the country aren't always the most moral. And that's not what the trophy is about
I think he is a scumbag. I don't care if he is the best player in the country or not. The post Reggie Bush Heisman trophy will represent more than just the football player you are. Case in point, Reggie giving the trophy back before they could take it away from him. Do you have to be Tim Tebow? No. You just can't be Cam Newton.<div>
</div><div>If I had a Heisman vote thats how I wouldapproachit. Don't agree with me?Doesn'treally matter. And it won't matter to a lot of Heisman voters who don't vote for Cam Newton this year either.</div>
</div><div>If I had a Heisman vote thats how I wouldapproachit. Don't agree with me?Doesn'treally matter. And it won't matter to a lot of Heisman voters who don't vote for Cam Newton this year either.</div>
then NO, because:
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_bianchi/2010/11/cam-newton-integrity-heisman-trophy.html
You see there is this sentence in the mission statement <font color="#004466">on the Heisman’s website</font>: “The Heisman Memorial Trophy annually recognizes the outstanding college football player whose performance best exhibits the pursuit of excellence with integrity.”</p>
http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_bianchi/2010/11/cam-newton-integrity-heisman-trophy.html
You see there is this sentence in the mission statement <font color="#004466">on the Heisman’s website</font>: “The Heisman Memorial Trophy annually recognizes the outstanding college football player whose performance best exhibits the pursuit of excellence with integrity.”</p>
It should go without saying that the best college football player deserves to be eligible to play college football. Cam Newton doesn't deserve eligibility. Its only a matter of time before he is either ruled ineligible (or he leaves college football and we find out later that he shouldn't have been eligible).
Suh should have won that award hands down last year. He was the AP College Football Player of the Year, won the Nagurski Award, the Bednarik Award, the Lombardi Trophy and the Outland Trophy. The Heisman didn't go to the best player last year, itwent to the best player who got to touch the ball all the time.I think Newton is the best football player period. Newton is in a completely different league than Moore and James. But if you bring the character thing into play without any evidence yet that he is guilty, then you aren't going to vote for the correct person, which is Cam Newton.
If they really feel strongly about the "...with integrity" part, they should be filtering out some players every now and again with a documented questionable past.
However, if you are a voter and Cam Newton is on the ballot, I don't think you can be the character-judgment police and vote for someone else simply because you think he's a shady character. For all we know, they all are shady characters. Point being, you can't make that judgment because you simply don't have the insight on all the player's lives to build that into your opinion. Voters should vote for what they are best able to judge - athletic accomplishment on the field. They should leave the integrity piece for the folks in the club that put these guys on the ballot at the end of the year. If they want to get tougher, they should do it. If not, they can enjoy their aware becoming further tainted over the years...
That being said, if he were on the ballot, I'd vote for him.
However, if you are a voter and Cam Newton is on the ballot, I don't think you can be the character-judgment police and vote for someone else simply because you think he's a shady character. For all we know, they all are shady characters. Point being, you can't make that judgment because you simply don't have the insight on all the player's lives to build that into your opinion. Voters should vote for what they are best able to judge - athletic accomplishment on the field. They should leave the integrity piece for the folks in the club that put these guys on the ballot at the end of the year. If they want to get tougher, they should do it. If not, they can enjoy their aware becoming further tainted over the years...
That being said, if he were on the ballot, I'd vote for him.
I would never get a vote in that contest, but No I would not vote for him. I assume they will not put him up.</p>
By definition, <span style="font-style: italic;">"The Heisman Memorial Trophy annually recognizes the outstanding college
football player whose performance best exhibits the pursuit of
excellence with <span style="text-decoration: underline; font-weight: bold;">integrity</span>. Winners epitomize great ability combined with
diligence, perseverance, and hard work."
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Cam Newton is probably the best player in college football today but he has shown a complete lack of integrity by stealing a laptop and cheating on school work. If the allegations of being bought by Auburn are found to be true, then that would be a third example of a lack of integrity.<span style="font-style: italic;"> </span>Newton does not fit the criteria for the award.
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</span>If Newton wins the Heisman, that award will no longer have much meaning to me.<span style="font-style: italic;">
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football player whose performance best exhibits the pursuit of
excellence with <span style="text-decoration: underline; font-weight: bold;">integrity</span>. Winners epitomize great ability combined with
diligence, perseverance, and hard work."
</span>
Cam Newton is probably the best player in college football today but he has shown a complete lack of integrity by stealing a laptop and cheating on school work. If the allegations of being bought by Auburn are found to be true, then that would be a third example of a lack of integrity.<span style="font-style: italic;"> </span>Newton does not fit the criteria for the award.
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</span>If Newton wins the Heisman, that award will no longer have much meaning to me.<span style="font-style: italic;">
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is that I believe that not everything has been made public yet. There is almost one more nasty fact in these things.
I remain committed to my comment made elsewhere.
"Tick Tock, Tick Tock"
I'm not saying that the Heisman committee won't put his name out for the voters. I'm only saying that IMO Camdoes not pass the stink test.
I remain committed to my comment made elsewhere.
"Tick Tock, Tick Tock"
I'm not saying that the Heisman committee won't put his name out for the voters. I'm only saying that IMO Camdoes not pass the stink test.
I'm not being a smart ***. I'm simply arguing from the side that, as it stands now, the Heisman Trust would have some explaining to do as to why the best player in college football was left off the ballot.
It'd be a situation of the media asking them... what do you know that we don't?
It'd be a situation of the media asking them... what do you know that we don't?
Is he the most talented player in the country right now, probably. Voting for Cam Newton is essentially voting for everything that college football does not want to be (or perceived to be). If you reward a guy who has a criminal past, failed out of one school, is ushered to a JC, then is basically pimped around to the highest bidder then you may as well just go ahead and have free agency in college football.
Everything outside of what he does on the field is sketchy at best.
Everything outside of what he does on the field is sketchy at best.
