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Redscarlet

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And that's without knowing the status of Tommie Armstrong.

He starts that line will change.
 
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That depends on how healthy he is, an immobile Armstrong on the field and that Iowa defense is on him like a pack of sharks all day. He has to be about 100% healthy before his presence on the field effects the point spread.
 

Redscarlet

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That depends on how healthy he is, an immobile Armstrong on the field and that Iowa defense is on him like a pack of sharks all day. He has to be about 100% healthy before his presence on the field effects the point spread.

Works both ways with Bethard too.
 

timnsun

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That depends on how healthy he is, an immobile Armstrong on the field and that Iowa defense is on him like a pack of sharks all day. He has to be about 100% healthy before his presence on the field effects the point spread.
How will Vegas determine his health to set the line? If he's listed as the starter, the line will move. Whether he is 100% healthy or not Vegas won't know until the game is going on... Do you really think, if Nebraska says Tommy is starting, the line won't change?
 

cecilB

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Maybe, the people who know this kind of stuff, know TA will be good to go or really close to it and aren't expecting any surprises as the week goes on.
Or something about hamstring injuries. Hard decisions. If not as strong as uninjured leg it can have long term ramifications if used too soon.
 

timnsun

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Or something about hamstring injuries. Hard decisions. If not as strong as uninjured leg it can have long term ramifications if used too soon.

Or something about hamstring injuries. Hard decisions. If not as strong as uninjured leg it can have long term ramifications if used too soon.
Both of these responses make sense... But if it is announced he is starting, it has to be assumed that he will be good enough to move the line, wouldn't one think?
 

Hockey81!

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Some Iowa fans are wondering in threads if CJ is injured because he just doesn't move in the pocket very well compared to last year. The truth is O line run blocking has been exceptional, pass blocking has been poor. He lost his top two receivers, Vandenberg and Kittle. No one, and I mean no receiver has stepped up.
 
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Some Iowa fans are wondering in threads if CJ is injured because he just doesn't move in the pocket very well compared to last year. The truth is O line run blocking has been exceptional, pass blocking has been poor. He lost his top two receivers, Vandenberg and Kittle. No one, and I mean no receiver has stepped up.
Well you don't have to worry about pass blocking against Nebraska. We have had our share of sacks this year, but sacks are an overrated stat. The more important factor is how good you are at collapsing the pocket and putting pressure on the QB on a majority of passing downs. And Nebraska is terrible in that department. We have given most QB's this year plenty of time to scan their options, set their feet, and throw without obstruction.
We also seem to give receivers about a 7 yard cushion out in the flat. So the quick tosses work well against us for nickel and dime yardage
 

rrthusker

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I'd be shocked if TA is close to 100 percent if it was a normal hamstring injury. People aren't fully recovered after 13 days. I'd be very surprised if he plays.
 
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I'd be shocked if TA is close to 100 percent if it was a normal hamstring injury. People aren't fully recovered after 13 days. I'd be very surprised if he plays.
I have never had a hamstring injury so I have a quick question. Do people with bad hamstring pulls limp noticeably when they walk? I ask this because I was watching Tommy on the sideline Saturday and when he walked he was not limping. Maybe a dumb question but I am curious...
 

rrthusker

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I have never had a hamstring injury so I have a quick question. Do people with bad hamstring pulls limp noticeably when they walk? I ask this because I was watching Tommy on the sideline Saturday and when he walked he was not limping. Maybe a dumb question but I am curious...

I've had 2 and one I limped badly for the first two weeks. The other wasn't as severe but it still took 3 weeks to return to easy jogging.
 

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Didn't Brandon Reilly miss a couple games with his hamstring injury earlier this year?

They take awhile to heal for sure.

Even if TA started, he would probably reinjure it and Fyfe would come in and play the rest of the game. Then TA will miss bowl practices due to reinjury.
 
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Let me pose a further question then. Does it matter where the hamstring is injured? It looked like TA grabbed the back of his leg just above the knee area rather than higher up near the back of the thigh. Does that make a difference?
 

rrthusker

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Let me pose a further question then. Does it matter where the hamstring is injured? It looked like TA grabbed the back of his leg just above the knee area rather than higher up near the back of the thigh. Does that make a difference?

All I know is they are rated 1-3 with 1 being slight and 3 being severe. From watching Tommy Saturday he isn't a 3. Not sure where it happens in the leg matters although both mine were higher up and the worst one revealed a huge black and blue discoloration in the entire hamstring area for 2-3 weeks.
 
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All I know is they are rated 1-3 with 1 being slight and 3 being severe. From watching Tommy Saturday he isn't a 3. Not sure where it happens in the leg matters although both mine were higher up and the worst one revealed a huge black and blue discoloration in the entire hamstring area for 2-3 weeks.
Ok thanks again. That is all helpful. I am just desperately trying to find reasons for hoping that his injury was not that severe.
 

rrthusker

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Ok thanks again. That is all helpful. I am just desperately trying to find reasons for hoping that his injury was not that severe.

From my personal experience he is not a 3 or he wouldn't be moving the way he was on the sidelines. That being said if he isn't fully recovered the first time he tries to explode or accelerate he will injure it further and may not play again for the Huskers.
 
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From my personal experience he is not a 3 or he wouldn't be moving the way he was on the sidelines. That being said if he isn't fully recovered the first time he tries to explode or accelerate he will injure it further and may not play again for the Huskers.
So what would be better? Tommy at 50% of his normal mobility or a 100% healthy Fyfe? I go with Tommy
 

Redscarlet

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Agreed. But I think his overall experience is a huge factor in a game like this. Still, Fyfe did show against Maryland that he can run the ball if he has to.


I'll give you some silver lining and tell you that Ryker is better all around QB than we had with Backup QB Ron Kellog.:)
 

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I've popped my hamstring a couple times and you can't walk for a day. You can't even lay down and lift your leg without it hurting. These pops were both really high. I can't exactly remember how long it took to heal to a decent degree but it's not quick. If you wrap it as hard as you possibly can, you can run on it after a few weeks but it looks like a wounded deer. If Tommy didn't fall straight to the ground in pain when it popped, it isn't as bad as what I had so who knows.

I'd take a 75% Tommy over a 100% Ryker as an Iowa fan. He would be a lame duck. His footwork and mechanics are horrible as is, could you imagine if he was trying to throw under pressure with a bad wheel? He won't get much on his throws. Which leg is it?
 

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Looks like Iowa opened at -1 and moved to -2.5... or at least where I can see it...
I have a hard time with Iowa being the favorite. Their offense is pretty much one limited to the running game as they have lost their one reliable receiver. Nebraska's defense against the run has performed well the last couple of weeks and should be able to tee off against the run.
 

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I have a hard time with Iowa being the favorite. Their offense is pretty much one limited to the running game as they have lost their one reliable receiver. Nebraska's defense against the run has performed well the last couple of weeks and should be able to tee off against the run.
Put big money on Nebraska then. I'm assuming the uncertainty of the Nebraska starting QB against a defense that has finally figured it out is the biggest reason.
 

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I've popped my hamstring a couple times and you can't walk for a day. You can't even lay down and lift your leg without it hurting. These pops were both really high. I can't exactly remember how long it took to heal to a decent degree but it's not quick. If you wrap it as hard as you possibly can, you can run on it after a few weeks but it looks like a wounded deer. If Tommy didn't fall straight to the ground in pain when it popped, it isn't as bad as what I had so who knows.

I'd take a 75% Tommy over a 100% Ryker as an Iowa fan. He would be a lame duck. His footwork and mechanics are horrible as is, could you imagine if he was trying to throw under pressure with a bad wheel? He won't get much on his throws. Which leg is it?
I think it was the left leg, as I recall...
 

rrthusker

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I have a hard time with Iowa being the favorite. Their offense is pretty much one limited to the running game as they have lost their one reliable receiver. Nebraska's defense against the run has performed well the last couple of weeks and should be able to tee off against the run.

At home we would be favored by a TD and probably by a couple on a neutral field. I understand why Iowa is favored at home. Heck they beat Michigan in more ways than on the scoreboard.
 

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I once pulled a groin muscle. Felt kind of good actually. But I was drunk. No big deal really ..... until she called the police.
 

HuskerRick

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That depends on how healthy he is, an immobile Armstrong on the field and that Iowa defense is on him like a pack of sharks all day. He has to be about 100% healthy before his presence on the field effects the point spread.
What Ioa defense? Sharks - card sharks, maybe!
 
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nu2u

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What Ioa defense? Sharks - card sharks, maybe!

Unlike Iowa's offense, the defense has really gelled the past couple of weeks. Michigan had averaged 49 ppg before Iowa held them to their lowest total of the season (13) and Iowa shutout the Illini 28-0 on the road this past weekend.

The bad news is that Nebraska will be very lucky to score 20 against Iowa. The good news is that they probably won't need to come out on top. First team to 14 wins.
 

HuskerRick

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Unlike Iowa's offense, the defense has really gelled the past couple of weeks. Michigan had averaged 49 ppg before Iowa held them to their lowest total of the season (13) and Iowa shutout the Illini 28-0 on the road this past weekend.

The bad news is that Nebraska will be very lucky to score 20 against Iowa. The good news is that they probably won't need to come out on top. First team to 14 wins.
Maybe, so but sharks was a bit much.