OT: #1 NJ to Syracuse
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7th in the ACC, I know Cuse was at the bottom of the barrel and now they are in the middle of the barrel. Great improvement in recruiting for Cuse fans and improvement next year, maybe 7-8 wins.
Fran did an amazing job coming in- no matter how you look at it. And he got some really good support from the school- but he also walked into a team that was not a total dumpster fire. You guys have been 5-7 wins for the past 3 seasons.
With GS - Rutgers was a complete dumpster fire. Coach Ash burnt it all down and he came into a 4/2/1 win seasons.
Its great when you consider how NYS barely produces P5 talent. Rutgers is surrounded by lots of talent. Cuse got 10 wins 5 years ago and actually beat ranked teams. When was the last time rutgers beat a ranked team?
I know the answer!!!! It was right about the same time Syracuse football last beat Rutgers. So there's that butt hurting statistic.
Wins vs medicore Syracuse teams are now crown me moments. While Cuse has beated the #2 team in the country in recent years.I know the answer!!!! It was right about the same time Syracuse football last beat Rutgers. So there's that butt hurting statistic.
Middle Tennessee State had a crown me moment the year (2017) Syracuse beat the #2
Ending that year at 4-8 didn't help bragging about one of the 4 wins that season.
A once proud program has become something it's fans have few things to brag about and need to hope their new HC , who never was thought good enough to be a ordination ( except as honorary co
C to keep him ) can prove he can do more than just recruit talent.Moving goal posts doesnt change the fact that you havent beatened a ranked team since 2009Middle Tennessee State had a crown me moment the year (2017) Syracuse beat the #2
Ending that year at 4-8 didn't help bragging about one of the 4 wins that season.
A once proud program has become something it's fans have few things to brag about and need to hope their new HC , who never was thought good enough to be a ordination ( except as honorary co
didn't move the goal posts, only let you know bragging about beating #2 in 2017 doesn't change the fact of a 4-8 season with a loss to Middle Tennessee .
Just pointed out Syracuse hired someone that proved he can recruit but coaching skills never made him a coordinator because it was the right thing to do when talking about that once proud program whose fans still live in the past
As for living in the past, Rutgers fans look for success in the present and future, the past we acknowledge isn't something to brag about even though there were some good years there .
Syracuse fans don't seem to know they are not the big dogs they were and RU has become a program they are starting to envy now like they did by the end of the G1 era
rutgers hasnt beat a ranked team in 15 years. Syracuse has. Not bragging. Simply stating a fact. What's the use of bragging about the Big10 blue bloods when you can't beat them? I mean you cant even beat Maryland
that's why we don't claim to be one of the better B1G programs.
But can say : " beating Syracuse has become easier as the years go by
It's not about crown me moments vs pathetic Cuse teams. You come to a Rutgers forum and spout off, but the fruit cant claim a victory since 2010? And have lost 7 of the last 10 to poor Rutgers? Compare apples to apples.
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7/10 lost by Syracuse. Feel free to revert to Jim Brown glory.
I had to look up Jim Brown since I’m not that old. I see his last year in college was the year I was born 1956 so he played 68 years ago.It's not about crown me moments vs pathetic Cuse teams. You come to a Rutgers forum and spout off, but the fruit cant claim a victory since 2010? And have lost 7 of the last 10 to poor Rutgers? Compare apples to apples.
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7/10 lost by Syracuse. Feel free to revert to Jim Brown glory.
Great. I commend you for beating those SU teams. Even if every other big east team did the same. Apples to apples. 13-30.It's not about crown me moments vs pathetic Cuse teams. You come to a Rutgers forum and spout off, but the fruit cant claim a victory since 2010? And have lost 7 of the last 10 to poor Rutgers? Compare apples to apples.
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7/10 lost by Syracuse. Feel free to revert to Jim Brown glory.
You are right. Every BiG East team was better than you, Pitts, Conn, Rutgers, Boston College, WV, Cinn had more wins than losses against you. That must really hurt.
I see the new technique of defending oneself at Cuse is to say they were terrible at that time. You guys haven’t turn the corner yet, the season hasn’t started yet for coach Brown. Cuse can brag when they won 8-9 games next season.
Ah, B*tch boy is back. You only come around when you like to talk ****, then run. You won't and can't stand the heat when Sadexcuse was getting their @sses handed to them this year. Unfortunately, as you said in the past, recruiting wins don't always translate to wins on the field. Your team is still in a dying conference. Florida State knows all to well about the glass ceiling.
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saracuse is seriously f**ked when the ACC implodes. Think UCan't football f**ked. If Fran succeeds he definitely isn't sticking around for that.
Yall love riding the coat tails of teams that had a name way before rutgers were allowed in the Big10. Getting beat by better programs is not a flex. It doesnt make your poop smell better. Just beat Maryland. Start off with thatAh, B*tch boy is back. You only come around when you like to talk ****, then run. You won't and can't stand the heat when Sadexcuse was getting the @sses handed to them this year. Unfortunately, as you said in the past, recruiting wins don't always translate to wins on the field. Your team is still in a dying conference. Florida State knows all to well about the glass ceiling.
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I didn’t read through this whole thread….. But I’m hoping someone mentioned in response.
We really need to stop worrying about SU…
Rutgers (as an overall program) is in such a much better situation going forward it is laughable.
BIG > ACC (much better schedule and competition for player exposure)
$100M > $40M (not sure on ACC media deal but Rutgers definitely has more media money to reinvest in coaches and other aspects of the program with the divide growing each year)
Rutgers has so many more options for potential NIL deals due to proximity to NY, NJ and Phil and the schedule matchups with B1G teams coming to town. If you were a potential NIL contributor (private non-alum company), wouldn’t you want the face representing your company playing in B1G games against B1G competition on much better network coverage??
The ACC is turning into the old dying Big East that became the AAC…. Syracuse is stuck in that league!! Why aren’t there the same concerns as there were when the Big East was getting ripped and the validity of the conference was in question? As soon as FSU and Clemson bolt…. Then what?
I’m not saying SU won’t have success in the ACC but what the hell will that really mean in the grand scheme of things if you are playing a patriot league schedule? Is that really going to excite kids and players?? That goes again the whole concept for the last decade with kids wanting to play in the SEC against the best competition.
Also.. If SU fans don’t think strength of schedule will come into play when selecting the 12 team playoff, then I don’t know what to tell you. Of course winning a weak league might get you in but you could be the 12th seed or even left out if you are 2nd place.
#1 NY to Rutgers - Duff
#6 NY to Rutgers - Beathea
We really need to stop worrying about SU…
Rutgers (as an overall program) is in such a much better situation going forward it is laughable.
BIG > ACC (much better schedule and competition for player exposure)
$100M > $40M (not sure on ACC media deal but Rutgers definitely has more media money to reinvest in coaches and other aspects of the program with the divide growing each year)
Rutgers has so many more options for potential NIL deals due to proximity to NY, NJ and Phil and the schedule matchups with B1G teams coming to town. If you were a potential NIL contributor (private non-alum company), wouldn’t you want the face representing your company playing in B1G games against B1G competition on much better network coverage??
The ACC is turning into the old dying Big East that became the AAC…. Syracuse is stuck in that league!! Why aren’t there the same concerns as there were when the Big East was getting ripped and the validity of the conference was in question? As soon as FSU and Clemson bolt…. Then what?
I’m not saying SU won’t have success in the ACC but what the hell will that really mean in the grand scheme of things if you are playing a patriot league schedule? Is that really going to excite kids and players?? That goes again the whole concept for the last decade with kids wanting to play in the SEC against the best competition.
Also.. If SU fans don’t think strength of schedule will come into play when selecting the 12 team playoff, then I don’t know what to tell you. Of course winning a weak league might get you in but you could be the 12th seed or even left out if you are 2nd place.
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So I guess your claim to fame is doing what every one else did. That and a 2006 Texas bowl win vs a 7-5 team.
Babers offered him and RB Yellis fell to #2 in Nj in the most recent rankings. Thread title should be changed.
Beyond that, not every recruit has the drive to challenge themselves to compete in one of the top 4 conferences in the USA (excludes ACC) as deemed by the College Football Playoff Committee. Case in point, McCord turned down more NIL $$ from Nebraska for a guaranteed starting spot at Syracuse to play versus lesser competition over the course of a season and in order to pad his stats for his last year of eligilbility.
I'm curious if Yellis is such a win for Cuse over Rutgers- why the kid visited Rutgers 10 times and finally settled?
You are delusional….. I don’t need to convince you here. Fran wanted a TON of our guys and couldn’t flip them.
You will see this all unfold on the field that the once glorious orange will wither away and die on the vine for good. We heard the same arguments about BC with Hafley…
All the things I mentioned ($, conference, media exposure & NIL) MATTER….
Outside of this ONE recruiting class that is essentially splitting hairs, do you really think long term that is sustainable?? Do you really think you can keep up when Rutgers is getting $100M vs the $40M? Over the course of a decade that is a $600,000,000 difference in REINVESTMENT.
Trust me… It’s over….
BTW…. We have beaten Syracuse @ss over and over and over and over in recent years. We would have this year and would continue to dominate IF we played. Guess what… We’re not… Good luck in the **** dying conference…
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Continue arguing with yourself…. If you think we are debating one class right now then good luck.
You mentioned two recruits and I mentioned all the recruits. You are the one talking about stuff that has nothing to do with what I said. Im not reading all that coat tailing rhetoric. lol
Now you want to talk about history. Well lets talk about all of it. 13-30.
While Fran did a great job flipping a couple of 4 stars when he got there- who did he beat Rutgers for?
My man briging up stuff from a watered down big east now. lol. The same conference you got your only conference title in. Shared with SU
You bring **** up from 40 years ago when Rutgers actually didn’t care to invest in sports. For years you guys bought players…. Now with NIL and the conference realignment game things are not the same as they were…hahaha
Dude…
It’s over you are not going to win this debate….. Long term… 5… 10… 20 and beyond…
Rutgers > Syracuse
Dion Wilson and Maraad Watson. In good position with Sharlandiin Strange. Now some of your mods are claiming Strange is not a top target after he visited rutgers 6 times with his recent visit being 2 weeks ago.