OT: 17 the McCoy's, I am pulling for the HatFields.

Nugdawg

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the Hatfieldsmoved to Morgantown and took up couch burning as a form of violence. Seriously though, damn good TV show.
 

sleepy dawg

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Either way, it is indeed a bad *** show. I can't wait for the finally. I could've sat through all 6 hours in one night.
 

HammerOfTheDogs

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It's true in that part of the country, families fought for both sides during the Civil War. The feud started when a Hatfield murdered a McCoy because he fought for America during the War To Free The Slaves. It's ironic that both sides, hill folks all, fought for the Secessionists, because most hill-folks in those regions stayed loyal to America. Kentucky never seceded, while West Virginia broke off from the Confederacy to come back to the bosom of Liberty and Freedom of The United States.
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Bobby Ricigliano

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Randall's brother fought for the Union. I'm sure there was more division than just him within both families, but the heads of household both fought on the Confederate side.</p>
 

BulldogBlitz

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wanted to watch but real life encroached and i didn't get to see the first night at all. can't join in now.
 

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BulldogBlitz said:
wanted to watch but real life encroached and i didn't get to see the first night at all. can't join in now.
...the History Channel is running repeats of all episodes, check your schedule.
 

Big Sheep81

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The War for Southern Independence, The Second American Revolution, The Late Unpleasantness...........
 

coach66

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escalated the feud in order to profit. There's a reason Shakespear said "First let's kill all the lawyers".
 

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Mutt the Hoople said:
It's true in that part of the country, families fought for both sides during the Civil War. The feud started when a Hatfield murdered a McCoy because he fought for America during the War To Free The Slaves. It's ironic that both sides, hill folks all, fought for the Secessionists, because most hill-folks in those regions stayed loyal to America. Kentucky never seceded, while West Virginia broke off from the Confederacy to come back to the bosom of Liberty and Freedom of The United States.
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owned at least one slave. He was bringing Him food while He hidin a cave. Jim Vance tracked the slave in the snow to find McCoy to kill Him. Devil Anse and Randall both fought for the Logan Wildcats against the North (DA actually started the Wildcats).My Great-Great Grandfather didn'town slaves but he Killed as many Yankees as He could.Yankee slave traders are who brought the slave to the South. America before and during theWar of Northern Aggression was just as evil and the Stars and Stripes flew over slavery a lot longer the Stars and Bars. The only reason Lincoln freed the slaves when He did was He hoped they would turn on the South and fight against the South. Slavery was terrible but don't act like the North was pure.
 

HammerOfTheDogs

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For two reasons- 1) Because the idea of owning another man was reprehensible to them (many had recently emigrated from Europe, still full of nobility and people who got where they were by privilege of birth), and 2) Slaves drove wages
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</div><div>That didn't mean the American troops were full of ideas of racial equality. The little town in Iowa my parents grew up in, had an ordinance against blacks sleeping inside the City Limits at night.
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</div><div>What it DID mean was an entire region of our country decided to go Benedict Arnold on our great nation. The Rebels were the original anti-American flag-burners, Jane Fonda's before there was such a thing as Jane Fonda (or Henry Fonda for that matter).</div>
 

fishwater99

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And it is pretty close to being Historically correct. Kind of what you would expect form the History Channel..

Tonight should get pretty good. I like them Hatfields.. Cap with that bad eye can out shoot most of them..
 

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with his strong beliefs in colonization and such. Lincoln was definitely not a racist but many things point to him being quitea segregationist.
 

mstateglfr

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Mutt the Hoople said:
For two reasons- 1) Because the idea of owning another man was reprehensible to them (many had recently emigrated from Europe, still full of nobility and people who got where they were by privilege of birth), and 2) Slaves drove wages
down(my ancestors moved to the Midwest from North Carolina when a bunch of them were replaced by slaves).<div id="isChromeWebToolbarDiv" style="display:none"></div><div>
</div><div>That didn't mean the American troops were full of ideas of racial equality. The little town in Iowa my parents grew up in, had an ordinance against blacks sleeping inside the City Limits at night.
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</div><div>What it DID mean was an entire region of our country decided to go Benedict Arnold on our great nation. The Rebels were the original anti-American flag-burners, Jane Fonda's before there was such a thing as Jane Fonda (or Henry Fonda for that matter).</div>


I can't believe I am responding to me of your posts and it isn't in complete disgust. Congrats n having a couple of rational and coherent thoughts.

So the Iowa town your parents grew up in- was it Manning?
 

tcdog

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Mutt the Hoople said:
For two reasons- 1) Because the idea of owning another man was reprehensible to them (many had recently emigrated from Europe, still full of nobility and people who got where they were by privilege of birth), and 2) Slaves drove wages
down(my ancestors moved to the Midwest from North Carolina when a bunch of them were replaced by slaves).<div style="display: none;" id="isChromeWebToolbarDiv"></div><div>
</div><div>That didn't mean the American troops were full of ideas of racial equality. The little town in Iowa my parents grew up in, had an ordinance against blacks sleeping inside the City Limits at night.
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</div><div>What it DID mean was an entire region of our country decided to go Benedict Arnold on our great nation. The Rebels were the original anti-American flag-burners, Jane Fonda's before there was such a thing as Jane Fonda (or Henry Fonda for that matter).</div>

It was reprehensible to own slaves but ok to buy and sell them? Also nothing like Jane Fonda. The South stood up for States Rights against the North. They didn'tdefend a foreign county at War with the USA. The North invaded the South not vice versa. The States joined the Union and some States felt like a State could alsosecede from the Union. Robert E Lee begged Abe not to invade the South but to work it out diplomatically. Abe chose to cripple the USA by invading. That's is when Lee chose to defend His State against an invading Army.
 

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mstateglfr said:


I can't believe I am responding to me of your posts and it isn't in complete disgust. Congrats n having a couple of rational and coherent thoughts.

So the Iowa town your parents grew up in- was it Manning?
Mt. Ayr- 10 miles from the Missouri border.
 

CEO2044

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****.

I loved this show, but tonight's a bit depressing. Good still, but depressing. No, I haven't read the books, so I don't know what happened in the end. I'm in the majority who just got the gist of it.
 

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<span style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; background-color: rgb(241, 241, 234); ">"In their accounts, the Hatfields were often portrayed as violent backwoods hillbillies who roamed the mountains stirring up violence."</span>

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</span></div><div><span style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; background-color: rgb(241, 241, 234); ">so yeah, MSU = Hatfields.</span></div><div><span style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; background-color: rgb(241, 241, 234); ">
</span></div><div><span style="color: rgb(102, 102, 102); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height: 18px; background-color: rgb(241, 241, 234); ">Just funning, Hillbillies!</span></div>
 

coach66

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McCoy house fire, I think two of his daughters were actually killed and maybe the son wasn't. It was very interesting to watch the contrast<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><div>in personalities between the two families. One family who did everything in the name of God and the other that was pretty agnostic it appears but in reality</div><div>they were mirror images of one another. My niece has been living up in that area for the past two years while her husband has been going through med</div><div>school and she said it is like another planet.</div><div>
</div><div>I do agree with you on the feelings of depression and pity, I felt it too. Many innocent victims who were pulled into a vortex of hate and envy. Let that be a lesson to all</div><div>you infidels.</div>