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mildone_rivals

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LOA is kind of old school, the new thing that's all the rage apparently is quiet quitting.
All the best former employees just kind of spontaneously combust at their desk chair. The really talented ones do so without leaving any residue behind. Which is quite a trick if you think about it.
 
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Never understand people's objections to BLM. It's another incredibly simple question: do you or don't you believe black lives matter?

It's not hard to answer at all. Look.

I do.

Woah! How hard was that, right? 😃
There IS a difference between the movement and the organization. I think many are turned off with the organization itself. Agree?
 

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There IS a difference between the movement and the organization. I think many are turned off with the organization itself. Agree?
I know some people are unhappy with BLM. But when asked why, they point at stuff done or said by individuals who aren’t officially affiliated with the BLM. Kind of like blaming a sports team for the bad actions of some of their fans.

Nobody can point to anything specific with the organization or it’s formal members that is particularly problematic. Maybe that’s changed. I don’t know.

Anyway, I don’t know of any human organization that is without flaws or mistakes. The question is, are we expressing equal levels tolerance for human imperfections across all organizations or not? I think most people exhibit biases with this stuff. For example, most people tolerate all kinds of bad behavior from politicians of one party while being aggresively intolerant of politicians of the other party.
 
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I think most would agree World Series is an improper name for America’s baseball championship, or North America’s championship. What should it actually be called ?
 
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I know some people are unhappy with BLM. But when asked why, they point at stuff done or said by individuals who aren’t officially affiliated with the BLM. Kind of like blaming a sports team for the bad actions of some of their fans.

Nobody can point to anything specific with the organization or it’s formal members that is particularly problematic. Maybe that’s changed. I don’t know.

Anyway, I don’t know of any human organization that is without flaws or mistakes. The question is, are we expressing equal levels tolerance for human imperfections across all organizations or not? I think most people exhibit biases with this stuff. For example, most people tolerate all kinds of bad behavior from politicians of one party while being aggresively intolerant of politicians of the other party.

I think some formal members pick up some choice real estate with donations to the organi
zation. And there was the "fry'em like bacon" came at a protest affiliated with the organization. You can say the concept stands apart from the organization, but the donations flow TO the organization.
 

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I think some formal members pick up some choice real estate with donations to the organi
zation. And there was the "fry'em like bacon" came at a protest affiliated with the organization. You can say the concept stands apart from the organization, but the donations flow TO the organization.
Nobody officially affiliated with BLM said anything about frying anybody like bacon.

If we’re going to condemn organizations for the behavior of some people who choose to affiliate themselves with an organization, who wear t-shirts or, you know, baseball caps, and proceed to engage in bad behavior, then we’d have to condemn every organization known to mankind.
 
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Nobody officially affiliated with BLM said anything about frying anybody like bacon.

If we’re going to condemn organizations for the behavior of some people who choose to affiliate themselves with an organization, who wear t-shirts or, you know, baseball caps, and proceed to engage in bad behavior, then we’d have to condemn every organization known to mankind.

The real estate went to officers who founded and ran the organization, not a bunch of cap and t-shirt wearing supporters.
 

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The real estate went to officers who founded and ran the organization, not a bunch of cap and t-shirt wearing supporters.
And priests raped little boys which was covered up at the highest levels of the church. Does that means organized religion is evil? Or are we tolerating one organization’s imperfections while condemning another‘s?
 

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This. I'll get this off my chest now and then move on to commenting on the teams and games in this thread. I HATE, HATE, HATE that the World Cup is taking place in winter.

As a sports fan, it was always in the perfect spot on the calendar: June-July. All the winter sports are done, football hasn't started yet and baseball isn't quite at its peak. And, then there is the club season calendar. There's a reason it was always played when it was.
Even that slimeball Sepp Blatter has come out saying Qatar hosting is a mistake. Of course this is well after he cashed his check.
 

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I think most would agree World Series is an improper name for America’s baseball championship, or North America’s championship. What should it actually be called ?
Let's get wild and crazy here and suggest "MLB Championship Series"

Despite the popularity of the NFL, I would say don't use the word "Super" and avoid Roman Numerals...most corny naming convention ever and totally amateur hour. Apologies to Lamar Hunt and his family.
 

mildone_rivals

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Was I crazy to think this thread was going to be a soccer discussion?


The diversion (related to the USMNT, so arguably on topic) started at the top of page 3, continued through page 3, and into this page. But it has, hopefully, receded and we can get back to talking soccer.

OTOH, until the game on Monday, there isn't a whole lot to discuss. We could speculate on the starting line-up, though.
 

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The diversion (related to the USMNT, so arguably on topic) started at the top of page 3, continued through page 3, and into this page. But it has, hopefully, receded and we can get back to talking soccer.

OTOH, until the game on Monday, there isn't a whole lot to discuss. We could speculate on the starting line-up, though.
is there any speculation though? i guess around the CB pairing...the rest of the positions are almost written in stone. though, the robinson vs scally vs dest situation might be worth discussing.
 
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We could speculate on the starting line-up, though.
This is my lineup. Who knows what Berhalter may put out there?

I would play a 4-1-2-3 formation.

Goal Turner
Center Backs Ream/Zimmerman
Full Backs Dest/Robinson
Defensive Mid Adams
Attacking Mids Reyna/McKenzie
Wings Pulisic/Aaronson
Striker Sargent
 

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This is my lineup. Who knows what Berhalter may put out there?

I would play a 4-1-2-3 formation.

Goal Turner
Center Backs Ream/Zimmerman
Full Backs Dest/Robinson
Defensive Mid Adams
Attacking Mids Reyna/McKenzie
Wings Pulisic/Aaronson
Striker Sargent
Through all the qualifiers, every time Weah wasn't on the field, the USMNT looked pretty bad in terms of attacking soccer. Far as I'm concerned, he's currently the most consistently impactful attacking player we have.

I'd put him ahead of Pulisic, Aaronson, or Sargent on any roster for the USMNT right now.

OTOH, I haven't checked injury status recently. Are all those guys 100% right now?
 

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is there any speculation though? i guess around the CB pairing...the rest of the positions are almost written in stone. though, the robinson vs scally vs dest situation might be worth discussing.
Even if everybody where at 100% right now, which I don't believe it true, then there is still always room for debate with the line-up. As you can see from the prior two posts.
 

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To me the biggest question marks are the roles Reyna, Weah, Aaronson, and Musah play. I think all others in the lineup are pretty solid. How much time they play, who starts and who is a super sub.
 
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This is my lineup. Who knows what Berhalter may put out there?

I would play a 4-1-2-3 formation.

Goal Turner
Center Backs Ream/Zimmerman
Full Backs Dest/Robinson
Defensive Mid Adams
Attacking Mids Reyna/McKenzie
Wings Pulisic/Aaronson
Striker Sargent
that's a very narrow set up.

reyna and mckennie aren't natural wide midfielders...pulisic is an inverted winger on the left who tends to play in the channel rather than out wide, and aaronson typically plays off the left as well, but with leeds, he's also been playing in the channel rather than as a true wide winger. without weah, there's no width in the set up you're proposing. i suppose we don't have much width anyway, since musah doesn't play wide either...and mckennie and adams are written in stone in terms of selection in the XI.
 

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Through all the qualifiers, every time Weah wasn't on the field, the USMNT looked pretty bad in terms of attacking soccer. Far as I'm concerned, he's currently the most consistently impactful attacking player we have.

I'd put him ahead of Pulisic, Aaronson, or Sargent on any roster for the USMNT right now.

OTOH, I haven't checked injury status recently. Are all those guys 100% right now?
I'd start pulisic and weah on the wings. I agree with you we look more dynamic with him, gives us pace on both sides.
 

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To me the biggest question marks are the roles Reyna, Weah, Aaronson, and Musah play. I think all others in the lineup are pretty solid. How much time they play, who starts and who is a super sub.
I think Reyna will come off the bench to start, just my feeling. He's struggled with injuries so maybe we won't risk him to start.
 

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I think Reyna will come off the bench to start, just my feeling. He's struggled with injuries so maybe we won't risk him to start.
That makes sense.

I've seen some articles that talk about how healthy the team is, citing comments from Berhalter. But I don't think he'd be particularly forthcoming about true recovery status for all the players who've been injured in recent months. I know I wouldn't be. I'd be as deceptive as I could get away with.

My guess is that we have a couple/few players, at least, who are not quite yet back to 100%. But it's just a guess. If we see weird stuff with the line-up, that could at least partially, if not fully, explain it.
 
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I'd be surprised if not Fereira honestly. I think people underestimate him. He feels like a guy hitting peak performance and HC seems to like him. I wonder if Ream only plays against England based on familiarity and we don't press as much that particular game as we think they can hurt us but not so much Wales/Iran. To mildones thoughts- I think Weah brings a unique element to the team, I hope he starts but hard to argue over your alternates.
This is my lineup. Who knows what Berhalter may put out there?

I would play a 4-1-2-3 formation.

Goal Turner
Center Backs Ream/Zimmerman
Full Backs Dest/Robinson
Defensive Mid Adams
Attacking Mids Reyna/McKenzie
Wings Pulisic/Aaronson
Striker Sargent
 
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I'd be surprised if not Fereira honestly. I think people underestimate him. He feels like a guy hitting peak performance and HC seems to like him. I wonder if Ream only plays against England based on familiarity and we don't press as much that particular game as we think they can hurt us but not so much Wales/Iran. To mildones thoughts- I think Weah brings a unique element to the team, I hope he starts but hard to argue over your alternates.
Weah has raw pace and makes great runs where he can get behind the defense either with the ball or off the ball. And when he's on, he makes some really incisive entry passes on the ground for scoring chances.

But even when he's not directly involved in the attack, when he's on the weak side, his pace and movement away from the ball draws attention and unsettles opposing defenses to the point that it creates opportunities for others.

If it were me coaching the team, I'd try to build on that more. A fair number of really good opportunities Weah creates go unrecognized and un-leveraged. So I'd get the attacking players to recognize it in film study and work on them timing their runs on and off the ball, with midfielder through balls, to exploit the space created as central defenders get caught cheating over some to help be ready to be second defenders on Weah should he get the ball.

Kind of basic stuff. But w/the players having limited time together, they don't appear to be looking out for it enough.
 
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Through all the qualifiers, every time Weah wasn't on the field, the USMNT looked pretty bad in terms of attacking soccer. Far as I'm concerned, he's currently the most consistently impactful attacking player we have.

I'd put him ahead of Pulisic, Aaronson, or Sargent on any roster for the USMNT right now.

OTOH, I haven't checked injury status recently. Are all those guys 100% right now?
I agree. Weah is the most dangerous player on the USA squad.
 
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Weah has raw pace and makes great runs where he can get behind the defense either with the ball or off the ball. And when he's on, he makes some really incisive entry passes on the ground for scoring chances.

But even when he's not directly involved in the attack, when he's on the weak side, his pace and movement away from the ball draws attention and unsettles opposing defenses to the point that it creates opportunities for others.

If it were me coaching the team, I'd try to build on that more. A fair number of really good opportunities Weah creates go unrecognized and un-leveraged. So I'd get the attacking players to recognize it in film study and work on them timing their runs on and off the ball, with midfielder through balls, to exploit the space created as central defenders get caught cheating over some to help be ready to be second defenders on Weah should he get the ball.

Kind of basic stuff. But w/the players having limited time together, they don't appear to be looking out for it enough.
He takes the best angles to create space for others to run into.
 

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Weah has raw pace and makes great runs where he can get behind the defense either with the ball or off the ball. And when he's on, he makes some really incisive entry passes on the ground for scoring chances.

But even when he's not directly involved in the attack, when he's on the weak side, his pace and movement away from the ball draws attention and unsettles opposing defenses to the point that it creates opportunities for others.

If it were me coaching the team, I'd try to build on that more. A fair number of really good opportunities Weah creates go unrecognized and un-leveraged. So I'd get the attacking players to recognize it in film study and work on them timing their runs on and off the ball, with midfielder through balls, to exploit the space created as central defenders get caught cheating over some to help be ready to be second defenders on Weah should he get the ball.

Kind of basic stuff. But w/the players having limited time together, they don't appear to be looking out for it enough.
Same mind on this definitely. I'm very interested to see the setup personally versus England. I think Weah could trouble Kyle Walker or certainly TAA. James out is a huge help. Gives us a shot.

Weah has played a lot of soccer for a young guy. He is that classic post hype guy that makes a name for himself at a cup, and then next year he is starting for Milan or somebody.
 
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Same mind on this definitely. I'm very interested to see the setup personally versus England. I think Weah could trouble Kyle Walker or certainly TAA. James out is a huge help. Gives us a shot.

Weah has played a lot of soccer for a young guy. He is that classic post hype guy that makes a name for himself at a cup, and then next year he is starting for Milan or somebody.
Weah is on the other side. He'd be taking on Shaw and the England LCB... which, despite his terrible form and lack of playing time, is likely to be maguire. Which is good for us.
 

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Weah is on the other side. He'd be taking on Shaw and the England LCB... which, despite his terrible form and lack of playing time, is likely to be maguire. Which is good for us.
I wouldn't be certain of sides frankly. We will see. And Trippier will start IMO
 
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I wouldn't be certain of sides frankly. We will see. And Trippier will start IMO
IIRC, Berhalter tried Weah very briefly in one game at left mid, but Weah looked lost in that role, played poorly, and was taken out rather quickly. I forget what game it was, but it was a while back. I could be remembering wrong.

But in general, I think Weah's at his best, at least with the USMNT, up on the right.

But then I don't see him in practice and haven't watched him in club play at all. So I have a pretty limited view of him, overall. Just what I've seen w/the national team.