There is a clinical work for that addiction...it is called Signess
OT- 9mm vs 45ACP
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There is a clinical work for that addiction...it is called Signess
You must have been shooting a Glock
And that's when the fight started, your honor!!
sorry, it has been over 20 years. I'll never forget the look in his eyes though.
Understood! I shouldered my buddies 10 gauge about 20 years ago. Like you, I'll never forget the look in his eyes or that I spun about 80 degrees to the right. I thought my shoulder fell off. I grabbed my 870 12 ga wingmaster & spent the rest of the hunt firing from my hip. My shoulder looked like a defibrillator had been on it overnight.
Say, that's sweet red rover. Bet she's a smooth shooter also!
What type of holster does she ride in?
What type of holster does she ride in?
Love the CZ lineup also! Great Offerings.
I best go to the gun forums before the mods run me off.
Thanks fellas
No worries. Everybody's pretty cool.
Hey, I found a real pic of my baby...
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And she shoots great. The trigger is crisp and lite. I was at the range a few days ago and put five rounds inside a 4 inch group @25 yards. I got a whole magazine center mass in the 10's (A) @50 yards. It's a great shooter.
That's terrific red! I knew that 1911 trigger would be smooth, I didn't know you were that good sendin' 'em down range!! Great results becoming one with your weapon.
Before I forget, that holster is tailor made for your pistol, looks great. With a good belt, she probably snugs right up to your body. Thanks for sharing!
Before I forget, that holster is tailor made for your pistol, looks great. With a good belt, she probably snugs right up to your body. Thanks for sharing!
I had a good instructor. My father was a Marine after all. Smokin
Here's at the 7 yard range...
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Here's my center mass @ 50 yards. The stands are made for standard 100yard rifle targets so had to improvise... Cardboard cut to 9"x14".
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And the hits. The top two shots above the target are my first hits...
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It was like looking at playing card from 25 feet away!
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And the hits. The top two shots above the target are my first hits...
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It was like looking at playing card from 25 feet away!
The 1911 came out after the Span/Amer war, Rebs were so hopped up that the 38 then carried req 2 or more hits to bring some down. The 45, hit him anywhere w one shot and the dude is out of the game. Cop friend of mine, yrs ago, said cops didn't carry the 45 to replace the 38 because they were to deadly and unforgiving. Made sense to me.
Nope. Glocks only. .45 or 9mm now. We went away from 40 cal quite a few years ago for a few reasons.
My latest CC is a Sig P224 two tone in 9mm (12 rounds) and a custom Bam Bam Holsters carry rig.
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Care to share why? I like the .40. SA SDS in 40 is my new every day carry. I carry an XDM in 40 when hunting the mountains, or anywhere where there may be predators not scared of challenging a human if they feel threatened.
First I what I typed before, I should clarify. Officers who had 40s can still carry them, but the most recent recruit class had to choose between the 45 and 9, and that is the way it will be until it changes......(when I got hired, we couldn't carry the 45 because they were worried about the cost of that ammo) An officer that already had a 40, can not replace it with a new 40.
I can't give you the exact reasons why, as I wasn't on the committee that made that recommendation that was approved. With a governmental agency, cost (of ammo) is always an issue, and it seems our department always wants to get down to only having to buy 2 types of ammo. The cost of the weapons is not an issue as each officer has to buy their own.
I have heard of some people having issues with the Glock 22 and 23s (40 cal models). I've had it explained to me that these frames are basically the same frame as the 9s, and they wear faster due to the increased pressure of that round. Again, just something I've been told but can't confirm.
So as to exactly why my department made that decision, I can't give you the specific reasons why, I just remember hearing there was more than one. I'll ask one of the guys who would know and reply when I get the chance to talk to him.
I'd imagine that this article would likely be some of the reasons:
http://www.tactical-life.com/firearms/7-reasons-cops-choose-9mm-40/
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I personally went 9mm, the main reason being cost of ammo. I can afford to practice alot more with 9mm than with .45 ACP. All the handguns I own (S&W Shield, CZ P07, and CZ-75B) are in 9mm for commonality of ammo, but I do hope to get a 1911 in .45 ACP in the future. Just love 1911's, and if I'm going to get one it is going to be in the "original" caliber.
I wouldn't feel undergunned with either caliber. With quality defensive ammo (Speer Gold Dot, Federal HST, Hornady Critical Duty/Defense, etc.), the 9mm is more than adequate when it comes to stopping ability. Yes, the .45 makes a bigger hole, but with modern ballistic technology the gap really has closed in stopping ability to the point where it really is personal preference, especially when you consider the benefit of capacity with 9mm.
I'm waiting for my concealed carry license to come in, once it gets here my Shield and P07 will share carry duty. My CZ-75B has nice wood grips, and I think it'll stay on show and range duty. We'll see how long it takes, Illinois likes to drag it's feet, I'm at 20 days or so, probably going to be 40-80 more days if I'm lucky
I wouldn't feel undergunned with either caliber. With quality defensive ammo (Speer Gold Dot, Federal HST, Hornady Critical Duty/Defense, etc.), the 9mm is more than adequate when it comes to stopping ability. Yes, the .45 makes a bigger hole, but with modern ballistic technology the gap really has closed in stopping ability to the point where it really is personal preference, especially when you consider the benefit of capacity with 9mm.
I'm waiting for my concealed carry license to come in, once it gets here my Shield and P07 will share carry duty. My CZ-75B has nice wood grips, and I think it'll stay on show and range duty. We'll see how long it takes, Illinois likes to drag it's feet, I'm at 20 days or so, probably going to be 40-80 more days if I'm lucky
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Never had an issue with Glocks either. Personally I love them especilly for this line of work.
As I get older, I could see me switching to a 9mm. I don't have the biggest hands either. Also, in my 20s and I to my 30s, the state shoot was an easy 100%. I'm starting to slip a little, which could just be a lack of practice. But I'm no spring chicken any more, and if I were to go back to overnight shirft again, I'd probably seriously consider going to a 9. Sucks getting old.
I won't fault Glocks, they are reliable as hell and pretty darn simple to maintain. I just can't get used to the grip angle on them and I like the feel of a heavier, all metal gun. But, I also don't carry it for a living. As they say of working in corrections, " No guns, just guts," haha.
I got my Shield out of the need for a smaller carry gun, almost splurged and got a Sig 938 but decided if I was going to carry it I wanted something I'd be a little less upset to lose for awhile should I ever have to use it to defend myself. I'll be honest though, the CZ lover I am, if they made a Shield sized single stack my Shield would be gone in a heartbeat.
I got my Shield out of the need for a smaller carry gun, almost splurged and got a Sig 938 but decided if I was going to carry it I wanted something I'd be a little less upset to lose for awhile should I ever have to use it to defend myself. I'll be honest though, the CZ lover I am, if they made a Shield sized single stack my Shield would be gone in a heartbeat.
Another CZ fan. Years ago, I was all set to purchase a 1911 or Beretta until I put a the CZ-83 and CZ-85 in my hand. Fit like a glove. Done deal.
Have you held a 1911? That firearm literally does become an extension of your hand.
A little thread drift here - went from 9 vs 45 to handgun preference. hmm
I have one 1911 - it is fine, not an expensive brand, a 45 that shoots great and is reliable.
Glocks are very reliable but simply do not fit me, I pass on them. Grip, angles and triggers all seem wrong for me for some reason. Don't even pick them up anymore.
Love CZ. I have the SP 01 Phantom which is not made anymore. Hey BigBL how do you like the P 07? I am looking at one right now. Seems to have nice features and a nice size to it. The only thing about CZ's is if you reload your own ammo. They have a very tight throat. A few people complain about the trigger pull on a CZ but I understand the newer models have addressed that issue.
Guns are like clothes, they have to fit you and you have to try on several to find the right ones.
I have one 1911 - it is fine, not an expensive brand, a 45 that shoots great and is reliable.
Glocks are very reliable but simply do not fit me, I pass on them. Grip, angles and triggers all seem wrong for me for some reason. Don't even pick them up anymore.
Love CZ. I have the SP 01 Phantom which is not made anymore. Hey BigBL how do you like the P 07? I am looking at one right now. Seems to have nice features and a nice size to it. The only thing about CZ's is if you reload your own ammo. They have a very tight throat. A few people complain about the trigger pull on a CZ but I understand the newer models have addressed that issue.
Guns are like clothes, they have to fit you and you have to try on several to find the right ones.
I shoot a lot and the cost of ammo was one of the reasons I went to all 9mm handguns.
1000 rounds of Blazer Brass 124 gr delivered to my house on Wednesday for right at $230.00
I like it alot. It's Glock 19-ish in size, so it's right in that sweet spot for comfort in the hand and concealability. For carry, it is a bit fatter than I expected so it's not quite as easy to carry as I had hoped, but nothing that you can't dress around. The trigger is fantastic, and with some parts from Cajun Gun Works you can improve it even more. For anyone that isn't familiar, CGW is THE place for parts and work on CZs.
I'm fortunate to be near the CZ-USA headquarters. There's a strong contingent of CZ folks in Kansas City.
Jealous! I'm about an hour drive from the HQ of Springfield Armory in Geneseo, IL. I don't own a Springfield, sadly, but wouldn't mind having one. I'd love a Springfield 1911, actually. The XD line is nice, I just like keeping a somewhat consistent manual of arms (similar to the CZ, which the Shield doesn't fall under but it does have a manual safety like a CZ), so while I'd definitely take one it's not on my must buy list at the moment. I'm also about an hour or so away from Plano Molding, which is the company that makes gun cases. Didn't realize it until I bought a case and had to contact them about getting some keys it was missing.
