OT: Arch Manning Article

[Faustdog]

This is a terrible tweet and headline calling Arch "a man synonymous failure" and "flop." I'm not the biggest Manning fan because I don't care for Texas or UMiss, but the feeding frenzy happening right now with a kid who is playing his first full season is sad.

He's not going to the league next year, but he still might very well have a great career. You get the feeling these guys don't actually watch a bunch of college football.

 

[57stratdawg]

Totally. Just the public being too high and now too low on a kid.

I bet it’s way easier to deal with headlines when you’re getting $X,000,000. I bet he can literally order a new G-Wagon from his phone right now. I would make that trade off.

 

[GloryDawg]

**** him. He got millions of dollars. He's no armature. What do they do to NFL QB's when they suck.

 

[Faustdog]

Let me also add, to say that he is college football's "first flop" is a wildly shortsighted statement. We've had flops for years. In my lifetime, remember Brock Berlin? Ryan Perrilloux? Mitch Mustain?

Come on. At least make me think you try to watch college football.

 

[Bulldog Bruce]

Social fame vs earned fame. There have always been players that for some reason have early hype. You have to feel for these people that have had big expectations put on them before they actually have earned it on the field. Todd Marinovich, Shadeur Sanders, Ron Powlus, Christian Hackenberg are some more recent examples. It's not really their fault that they became known before they had a chance to prove if they deserved the accolades. This leads to elevated expectations and some never rise to meet the hype. Arch definitely is falling in that category at this point. His story isn't fully written though.

 

[GloryDawg]

He might end up being the best manning yet. He's at the wrong school with the wrong QB coach. The last QB there had a lot of hype and a DP commercial. He wasn't that good either. He will get to the NFL and will probably be coached into a great QB.

 

[dorndawg]

Let me also add, to say that he is college football's "first flop" is a wildly shortsighted statement. We've had flops for years. In my lifetime, remember Brock Berlin? Ryan Perrilloux? Mitch Mustain?

Come on. At least make me think you try to watch college football.

I had a similar thought - maybe they meant the first major flop of the NIL era?

 

[Faustdog]

**** him. He got millions of dollars.

I hope that's something I never hear myself say. I don't want to begrudge anyone their good fortune.

I can dislike someone for being a terrible person, for having terrible beliefs, for their arrogance, or expecting a handout, but I hope I never reach the stage where I dislike someone or want them to fail because they have some money.

 

[Dawgg]

Honestly, I felt a little bit of sympathy for the kid until he “big timed” the defender from Sam Houston State a couple of weeks ago.

Now, I’m like “17 it, drag him”.

 

[Faustdog]

Honestly, I felt a little bit of sympathy for the kid until he “big timed” the defender from Sam Houston State a couple of weeks ago.

Now, I’m like “17 it, drag him”.

I thought the same thing as you until I saw a video of that same defender doing the exact same thing to Arch a little earlier in the game, standing over him and taunting him after a big hit.

Still would have preferred he didn't do it against Sam Houston, but there were mitigating factors there.

 

[HailStout]

Who?

 

[patdog]

I've got no problem calling him the biggest bust in history. 17 the Mannings. All of them.

 

[GloryDawg]

He should never be sacked from the blind side. With those ears he can hear a fly fart from 100 feet away. He will hear that DT coming.

I hope that's something I never hear myself say. I don't want to begrudge anyone their good fortune.

I can dislike someone for being a terrible person, for having terrible beliefs, for their arrogance, or expecting a handout, but I hope I never reach the stage where I dislike someone or want them to fail because they have some money.

I am not begrudging him, but I don't feel sorry for him either. I just saying he better be able to take it making the money to play an armature sport he is playing.

 

[HotMop]

Who?

He goes by Larry. Easy mistake.

 

[johnson86-1]

He might end up being the best manning yet. He's at the wrong school with the wrong QB coach. The last QB there had a lot of hype and a DP commercial. He wasn't that good either. He will get to the NFL and will probably be coached into a great QB.

I kind of doubt it. He's a perfectly fine quarterback that has hype he probably can't physically live up to.

If it wasn't for his last name, he'd have never been annointed after playing against small school competition. He could be a perfectly solid college QB, but he's probably going to spend his entire college career not really enjoying it because of the inability to live up to unrealistic expectations. On the other hand, he's going to be a millionaire leaving college based on his last name. In the pre-NIL era, it would be something of a sympathetic story, almost. Now, I think most people would love to be an overpaid bust of a college QB.

 

[patdog]

He's a perfectly fine quarterback

Maybe he is and maybe he isn't. So far, he's 10th in the SEC in passing yards and 12th in passer rating.

 

[paindonthurt]

This is a terrible tweet and headline calling Arch "a man synonymous failure" and "flop." I'm not the biggest Manning fan because I don't care for Texas or UMiss, but the feeding frenzy happening right now with a kid who is playing his first full season is sad.

He's not going to the league next year, but he still might very well have a great career. You get the feeling these guys don't actually watch a bunch of college football.

Never as good as it seems
Never as bad as it seems

but I don’t really feel sorry for the professional athletes making millions

That doesn’t mean I like or agree with what people are saying either.

 

[paindonthurt]

Social fame vs earned fame. There have always been players that for some reason have early hype. You have to feel for these people that have had big expectations put on them before they actually have earned it on the field. Todd Marinovich, Shadeur Sanders, Ron Powlus, Christian Hackenberg are some more recent examples. It's not really their fault that they became known before they had a chance to prove if they deserved the accolades. This leads to elevated expectations and some never rise to meet the hype. Arch definitely is falling in that category at this point. His story isn't fully written though.

Eh it kind of was his fault and his dads

Social fame vs earned fame. There have always been players that for some reason have early hype. You have to feel for these people that have had big expectations put on them before they actually have earned it on the field. Todd Marinovich, Shadeur Sanders, Ron Powlus, Christian Hackenberg are some more recent examples. It's not really their fault that they became known before they had a chance to prove if they deserved the accolades. This leads to elevated expectations and some never rise to meet the hype. Arch definitely is falling in that category at this point. His story isn't fully written though.

Eh it kind of was his fault and his dads

 

[onewoof]

Texas' offense requires 3 seconds of pass blocking

 

[aTotal360]

17em.

 

[thatsbaseball]

I know he loves his family but I'll bet he wishes he could play the game incognito sometimes . That Manning name on his jersey probably feels like it weighs 2,000 lbs at times.

 

[The Peeper]

and now all the Univ of Northern MS fans be saying, "we didn't want him anyway"!

 

[HailStout]

Texas' offense requires 3 seconds of pass blocking

 

[patdog]

and now all the Univ of Northern MS fans be saying, "we didn't want him anyway"!

The luck they have with QBs is sickening. Miss out on the young Manning sweepstakes and turns out he was overrated. Sign a Div II player no one heard of for depth and he turns out to be one of the best QBs in the SEC. I mean, Kiffin is a good coach, but damn if he hasn't been lucky too.

 

[CaptainFalcon]

To be fair, I don’t think any of the overhype is Arch’s fault or the Mannings’ fault. From all indications he seems to have kept a pretty low profile (I mean as much as he could for a Manning that plays for Texas). He’s a well spoken guy and says all the things you’d like to hear from a responsible young man. His recruitment to Texas was very non-dramatic. He waited his turn for a couple of years, and took over fully when Ewers left. From his standpoint I don’t feel like he’s handled business off the field poorly at all. His on the field struggles are on him but that doesn’t have anything to do with the hype that built up before he started a game this year.

This was a media created monster. People were anointing him the next great Manning QB before he earned it just because of his name and his school. In reality he’s a first year starter, only a RS sophomore, trying to find his footing still against a very tough schedule. I don’t think enough acknowledgement was given to that.

 

[RocketDawg]

Yes, I agree. The New York Times (assuming that's a real NTY X post) flopped on this one. I don't care how much he's being paid, that's not a good look for the Times.

Maybe they congratulate Jaxson instead. He's doing pretty good with the Giants.

 

[STATEgrad04]

If yall cant see where this is going you're blind!

He will use this years struggles to blame the coach for not properly developing him, transfer to umiss, mature into the hyped up qb he was supposed to be all along, win the Heisman, further entrench om as QBU, solidify Kiffins legacy as THE offensive savant, and win om their first real national championship. He will make a career in the NFL, and retire only to do countless numbers of commercials and tv shows to ensure that none of us will ever be able to watch tv without seeing at least one of the Mannings on it.***

 

[johnson86-1]

Maybe he is and maybe he isn't. So far, he's 10th in the SEC in passing yards and 12th in passer rating.

I meant perfectly fine college QB. Maybe UTex doesn't have an excuse for him to be their starter, but it doesn't look like if he was starting at any G5 school you'd be like, "how did they end up in this situation." And maybe he'd seem like a run of the mill low end QB if he were somewhere like Arkansas or UK with a more average supporting staff. Not sure how 12th in the SEC in passer rating with UTs supporting staff translates to other SEC schools. I'm guessing if he were that bad though, Sark would have said to hell with boosters and gone hard after an alternative.

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

This is a terrible tweet and headline calling Arch "a man synonymous failure" and "flop." I'm not the biggest Manning fan because I don't care for Texas or UMiss, but the feeding frenzy happening right now with a kid who is playing his first full season is sad.

He's not going to the league next year, but he still might very well have a great career. You get the feeling these guys don't actually watch a bunch of college football.

This will make one heck of a comeback story. It may not be deserved, but we will have some comeback..... I'm sure.. he's a Manning, right?

 

[Xenomorph]

This is a terrible tweet and headline calling Arch "a man synonymous failure" and "flop." I'm not the biggest Manning fan because I don't care for Texas or UMiss, but the feeding frenzy happening right now with a kid who is playing his first full season is sad.

He's not going to the league next year, but he still might very well have a great career. You get the feeling these guys don't actually watch a bunch of college football.

With great pay comes great criticism. College sports fandom never asked for a pro league but here we are. He’s fair game.

 

[ronpolk]

This is a terrible tweet and headline calling Arch "a man synonymous failure" and "flop." I'm not the biggest Manning fan because I don't care for Texas or UMiss, but the feeding frenzy happening right now with a kid who is playing his first full season is sad.

He's not going to the league next year, but he still might very well have a great career. You get the feeling these guys don't actually watch a bunch of college football.

I don’t feel sorry for Arch at all. He’s fine regardless of how this turns out.

With that said, the sports media really sucks these days. If a QB is not Mahomes day 1 then he sucks. I remember baker mayfield sucked, Sam darnold. I even remember Josh Allen and Jalen hurts weren’t good enough at one time too.

I’m not saying arch will or won’t develop but I’m certainly not making a determination based on half a season of him being the starter.

 

[Walkthedawg]

This is a terrible tweet and headline calling Arch "a man synonymous failure" and "flop." I'm not the biggest Manning fan because I don't care for Texas or UMiss, but the feeding frenzy happening right now with a kid who is playing his first full season is sad.

He's not going to the league next year, but he still might very well have a great career. You get the feeling these guys don't actually watch a bunch of college football.

I would share your sympathies if this was the old college football. Where they got a scholly, free college, free meals, and a few bucks under the table. And they played their tail off as a simple student athlete.

Now in the era of some college players making more than NFL players… one thing that opens up is criticism.

He is getting paid big money now, getting national endorsements, etc. The money is to perform. Not just to sign. They wanna be professional, take criticism like a professional. They can’t cash 7 figure NIL checks every year and then turn around and play the “I’m just a kid in college” card.

 

[Dawgg]

I thought the same thing as you until I saw a video of that same defender doing the exact same thing to Arch a little earlier in the game, standing over him and taunting him after a big hit.

Still would have preferred he didn't do it against Sam Houston, but there were mitigating factors there.

I’m sorry, Cooper, but I’m still in the ‘17 him’ camp. It’s Sam Houston State. I don’t care what they did before. That would be like Shapen dry humping an Alcorn State player after a touchdown.

What made it worse is that he’s looked like dogshit against any team with a pulse, so to act like he did something against a team playing in the FCS 3 years ago is pretty 17ing weak.

I hope OU drags his аss all afternoon Saturday.

 

[GloryDawg]

If we are healthy, we beat Texas. Different team at home. They will be needing some cheese that week with us having cowbells.

 

[Yeti]

it will be the most MSU thing ever when he finds his footing in Starkville and lights us up for 50. I go to a few Texas games and he just isn’t seeing the field. He has a really good arm is a good runner but just not seeing it ….and may never

 

[patdog]

If we are healthy, we beat Texas. Different team at home. They will be needing some cheese that week with us having cowbells.

We’re not beating Texas. Healthy or not.

 

[HotMop]

it will be the most MSU thing ever when he finds his footing in Starkville and lights us up for 50. I go to a few Texas games and he just isn’t seeing the field. He has a really good arm is a good runner but just not seeing it ….and may never

It's ok if he scores 50, as long as we score 51.

 

[Herbert Nenninger]

If yall cant see where this is going you're blind!

He will use this years struggles to blame the coach for not properly developing him, transfer to umiss, mature into the hyped up qb he was supposed to be all along, win the Heisman, further entrench om as QBU, solidify Kiffins legacy as THE offensive savant, and win om their first real national championship. He will make a career in the NFL, and retire only to do countless numbers of commercials and tv shows to ensure that none of us will ever be able to watch tv without seeing at least one of the Mannings on it.***

And then he will father at least 4 athletic male offspring.