OT. As a Met fan, I'm furious if true.

BigLou

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Regarding the issue of hustling - if your a .220 hitter you run hard down to first on a dropped third strike. If your a .200 hitter who leads the majors in extra base hits, do you really have to risk an injury on a play that is rarely successful?

The one time in the outfield it looked like he didn't hustle was on a ball that hit he wall and got past the centerfielder. It went for an inside the park home run. Replay showed that it actually was a legitimate home run above the line. Maybe Cespides has good eyesight and knew that.
 
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I'm happy to say that there is not total disrespect for the National Anthem.

While tailgating in the Blue Lot for the WSU game the 20-somethings next to us played Whitney Houston doing her rendition of the song. Everyone within earshot stood up, took off their hats, hands over heart and faced towards an American flag that was flying in the lot. It was a pretty nice moment.
 

Kbee3

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Would constantly disrespecting and disparaging the President of the United States be considered as unAmerican as not standing for the National Anthem at a sporting event?

Only if he is a republican president.
 

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SkilletHead2

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Poll shows that Cuban Americans support the normalisation of relations with Cuba, and Cubans (in Cuba) overwhelmingly support it. Cohiba anyone?
 

Knights 1212

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People should check his stats. He has only hit about 5 home runs at Citi Field. Almost all of his Mets homers are on the road. He only had one hit in the 3 game series vs. the Yankees. The AL teams seem to know how to pitch him. He seems like he often wiffs at the low outside slider. Personally I could care less if the Mets get him for a huge contract. I think it is awful risky. The Yanks have made this mistake several times. I don't think he has been hitting so well of late. He went nuts and probably will get a good free agent contract. I actually hope the Mets can keep him as it might just bite them.
 

MozRU

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Who cares? I think it's funny how people complain that America is too PC when it comes to racism and sexism, and then threads like this pop up. I don't take my hat
Who cares? I think it's funny how people complain that America is too PC when it comes to racism and sexism, and then threads like this pop up. I don't take my hat off during the National Anthem. Egads!
My grand father who was in Guadalcanal, great uncle who jumped out of plane at 4am on D-Day, my old man who was in Khe Sanh, to name a few of the men in my family who fought in wars, I guess fought for you to take 2min out of your day to be a grade A DBag.
 
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RU_Planning

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Donald Trump disparaged a former POW and shot up in the polls and in popularity. Cespedes or anyone else can do whatever they want during the National Anthem, including stand which seems to be what he does each time.
 
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Poll shows that Cuban Americans support the normalisation of relations with Cuba, and Cubans (in Cuba) overwhelmingly support it. Cohiba anyone?

really? My mother in law is from Cuba. this is her reply when asked about the lifting of the embargo:

To be honest, I have mixed feelings. Overall I would have to say not supportive. I do think that the embargo was not working at all, for years the rest of the world has sent tourists to Cuba and imported their cigars, liquor, etc. So it was time to do something about it. But that is Congress's domain, and they still have to lift it. The present arrangement does not make sense to me, the Cuban people may benefit in the long run from improved telecommunications, the return to a single currency, and other short-term benefits gained, but the Castro regime is still firmly in place, nothing has been said or done about human rights violations or about the extradition of criminals wanted by the US or about the freedoms that Cubans still do not have, they are still prisoners in their island, and still trying to get to the US by any means they can. I am sure I am forgetting to mention many other issues, these are the first that come to mind. I believe President Obama should have worked with Congress to lift the embargo and re-establish relations with Cuba, not gone the secret and executive order route.
 

KT71

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Who cares. I don't even see a reason to play national anthems at sporting events, that is other than marketing for the sport, which in the end is why they do it.

Really? How does it market the sport? And to answer your question most Americans care. What uniform did you wear in service to your country. Wait I think I know the answer to that one.
 

MozRU

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Thanks in part to your dad, I have that right to be a "douchebag".
This is the the land of the free. I get it.

There are some things in this world I SMH at and find petty. But I go along. I can't get my head around those who abuse freedoms and with their actions saying, "F you. I owe no one a thing." Just give a little respect for those who gave.

I am 100% confident all those spiteful people would get on their knees and beg for protection to those servicemen if the ISIS were miles away from their town.
 

patk89

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People should check his stats. He has only hit about 5 home runs at Citi Field. Almost all of his Mets homers are on the road. He only had one hit in the 3 game series vs. the Yankees. The AL teams seem to know how to pitch him. He seems like he often wiffs at the low outside slider. Personally I could care less if the Mets get him for a huge contract. I think it is awful risky. The Yanks have made this mistake several times. I don't think he has been hitting so well of late. He went nuts and probably will get a good free agent contract. I actually hope the Mets can keep him as it might just bite them.

I'm a lifelong Mets fan. There has never been a player who arrived and instantly carried the team like Cespedes has this season (closest was Clendenon but that was before my time). Nitpicking where he hit his homers is ridiculous, he has hit them at key moments. Sure, he had to cool off at some point but is starting to hit the ball real hard again. His play in centerfield has been unexpectedly good. Has a cannon for an arm. 5 tool player in his prime. Teammates appear to love him. You are clearly a Yankee fan so I can see why you would be jealous.

If he explodes in the post season, he will get a giant contract. Huge money. Huge risk. Should the Mets advance into the Series, there would be significant outrage if he is not offered a competitive deal by ownership. Most likely he will have several strong years where he is worth the money, followed by decline in which he will be overpaid for his production. But that is the nature of the business these days.

I have less of a problem with a foreign player not standing for the anthem than in the cases where they turn their back to the flag. Turning your back is an insult and that would be totally unacceptable.
 

LevaosLectures

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This is the the land of the free. I get it.

There are some things in this world I SMH at and find petty. But I go along. I can't get my head around those who abuse freedoms and with their actions saying, "F you. I owe no one a thing." Just give a little respect for those who gave.

I am 100% confident all those spiteful people would get on their knees and beg for protection to those servicemen if the ISIS were miles away from their town.

No one is saying to be a horse's a $$ during the anthem, only that as patriotic gestures go it's pretty meaningless.
 

ScarletNYC

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No one is saying to be a horse's a $$ during the anthem, only that as patriotic gestures go it's pretty meaningless.
Yeah, that's pretty much my point. I actually got in a car accident with a serviceman and it was his fault. I thanked him sincerely for his service. But god forbid I don't stand for the anthem or GASP leave my hat on. That's comical. Even more so that this electorate is in a battle with political correctness yet trivial things like this get their panties in a bunch.
 

Ru2bnj

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The Mets should absolutely try to sign Cespedes. He is basically the only potential offensive difference maker they have. It is clear what he has meant to the team over the last 60 games. The Mets would not have a 7.5 game lead a this point without him. They would be lucky to be a fight with the Nationals for the Division. I don't know if the Mets will be able to sign him but they absolutely should try. People always look for flaws in individuals....here's a clue...everyone has flaws.
 

willisneverrana43

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Really? How does it market the sport? And to answer your question most Americans care. What uniform did you wear in service to your country. Wait I think I know the answer to that one.

I'll take your questions in order.

Really? Yes, really. I actually typed those words, and I actually meant them.

How does it market the sport? Not just this sport, but all of them. None of them are governmental meetings, none of them involve the implementation of a governmental program or the mounting of a defense of our country. It'd be more appropriate to have the teams fixing the country roads sing the national anthem than the crowd at a privately run sporting event for profit. Sports love to link themselves to nationalism and patriotism. It works. Look at your reaction. You're in hook, line and sinker. As if what happens at a sports event has anything to do with your service to the country. And, yes, I know you could say that fighting for our freedom allowed this to happen. But it allowed lots of things to happen. Why do these particular private events merit the national anthem? Because the owners of the sport teams want them to And they want you to love it, and love the sport. Built Ford Tough. America's Truck.

What uniform did you wear in service to your country? None. If you did, thank you. If, however, you believe that authorizes you to belittle opinions about whether the national anthem being played at private sporting events is odd, you very well know it doesn't. Think about the two things: serving your country, and arguing about the incredible importance of businessmen deciding to play the national anthem at their event so that they can draw the type of product loyalty and customer reaction that you are displaying right now as you link their for-profit business endeavor to your service. I have to hand it to them. They've won. Great marketing.
 

WhiteBus

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My problem with him is an unexplained mystery. Dude has serious talent but teams never keep him. 4 different teams in less than 4 years in the majors. That's usually a sign of a problem somewhere with his type of talent.
 

SkilletHead2

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really? My mother in law is from Cuba. this is her reply when asked about the lifting of the embargo:

To be honest, I have mixed feelings. Overall I would have to say not supportive. I do think that the embargo was not working at all, for years the rest of the world has sent tourists to Cuba and imported their cigars, liquor, etc. So it was time to do something about it. But that is Congress's domain, and they still have to lift it. The present arrangement does not make sense to me, the Cuban people may benefit in the long run from improved telecommunications, the return to a single currency, and other short-term benefits gained, but the Castro regime is still firmly in place, nothing has been said or done about human rights violations or about the extradition of criminals wanted by the US or about the freedoms that Cubans still do not have, they are still prisoners in their island, and still trying to get to the US by any means they can. I am sure I am forgetting to mention many other issues, these are the first that come to mind. I believe President Obama should have worked with Congress to lift the embargo and re-establish relations with Cuba, not gone the secret and executive order route.

Wait a minute! That incredibly thoughtful and reflective comment came from Screw85's Mom? Does it skip a generation? Just kidding, but nice reply from her.

And yep, them's the data. My approach would be to overwhelm them with the benefits of a close relationship with America, and the vestiges of Castro will die out, probably fairly quickly. I'm thinking the Havana Cohibas in the same division as the Mets. They would be contenders in three years and think how cool a road trip to catch a series would be!
 

KT71

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I'll take your questions in order.

Really? Yes, really. I actually typed those words, and I actually meant them.

How does it market the sport? Not just this sport, but all of them. None of them are governmental meetings, none of them involve the implementation of a governmental program or the mounting of a defense of our country. It'd be more appropriate to have the teams fixing the country roads sing the national anthem than the crowd at a privately run sporting event for profit. Sports love to link themselves to nationalism and patriotism. It works. Look at your reaction. You're in hook, line and sinker. As if what happens at a sports event has anything to do with your service to the country. And, yes, I know you could say that fighting for our freedom allowed this to happen. But it allowed lots of things to happen. Why do these particular private events merit the national anthem? Because the owners of the sport teams want them to And they want you to love it, and love the sport. Built Ford Tough. America's Truck.

What uniform did you wear in service to your country? None. If you did, thank you. If, however, you believe that authorizes you to belittle opinions about whether the national anthem being played at private sporting events is odd, you very well know it doesn't. Think about the two things: serving your country, and arguing about the incredible importance of businessmen deciding to play the national anthem at their event so that they can draw the type of product loyalty and customer reaction that you are displaying right now as you link their for-profit business endeavor to your service. I have to hand it to them. They've won. Great marketing.

Willis, With all due respect the National Anthem is not about government meetings or events. And no one goes to a sporting event to sing the National Anthem. It is a sign of respect and loyalty to one's country. It has been at sporting, as well as other, events long before there were the high powered advertising agencies you feel use it to promote their products. It was started when most people loved their country and were truly proud to be Americans. To call it a marketing ploy is an insult! If you attend the game today and are there for our anthem just pause and think if Rutgers is playing it to market their product . Then say a little prayer for those who sacrificed so you could be standing there.
And finally no one will ever draw product loyalty or create any customer reaction from me by playing my National Anthem. But I WILL always love and respect it when it is played. Have a nice day. Enjoy the game.
 

RUhasarrived

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Cespedes should be outraged that his country is still sheltering a fugitive cop killer.

BEAT KANSAS!Out the door I go.
 

RBS05

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My problem with him is an unexplained mystery. Dude has serious talent but teams never keep him. 4 different teams in less than 4 years in the majors. That's usually a sign of a problem somewhere with his type of talent.
You should go back to the Mets thread when you kept bringing up this point, and people responded with facts, but you refused to believe the reasoning.
 

RUforJERSEY

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I'm a lifelong Mets fan. There has never been a player who arrived and instantly carried the team like Cespedes has this season (closest was Clendenon but that was before my time). Nitpicking where he hit his homers is ridiculous, he has hit them at key moments. Sure, he had to cool off at some point but is starting to hit the ball real hard again. His play in centerfield has been unexpectedly good. Has a cannon for an arm. 5 tool player in his prime. Teammates appear to love him. You are clearly a Yankee fan so I can see why you would be jealous.

If he explodes in the post season, he will get a giant contract. Huge money. Huge risk. Should the Mets advance into the Series, there would be significant outrage if he is not offered a competitive deal by ownership. Most likely he will have several strong years where he is worth the money, followed by decline in which he will be overpaid for his production. But that is the nature of the business these days.

I have less of a problem with a foreign player not standing for the anthem than in the cases where they turn their back to the flag. Turning your back is an insult and that would be totally unacceptable.
Exactly. Why should you care what a Yankee fan thinks about him. Don't watch the Mets game to see firsthand the impact he's had but look at some paper stats and decide that his talents are overstated. They should worry about their own team.