absolutely true, Nebraska is a great example of this. Nebraska was sold as a premier brand and not a premier mkt nor a school with stellar academics.
Have fun with your loser bromance my I have that other idiot in ignore, as he brings nothing bro any conversation except vitriol and insults. Have you more facts and links, but you have nothing. Even Sports Illustrated is not a good source, and you insult that too. When you have nothing to come back with, it's all you have.
Does the Big 10 have one? A school would have to be nuts to leave, shutting down its athletic department or not leaving by choice.
The only school that has ever left the B1G was U of Chicago and that's because they downsized/deemphasized athletics to D3 level.
More “I’m putting you two more knowledgeable posters on this subject than me but I’m too stubborn to admit it and accept defeat” threats from our resident expansion expert
We'll have to institutionalize KN to an insane asylum when that happens !!
Unless ND joins I don’t see the B10 going over 20.
That’s the thing I don’t see any of the leftovers of the ACC moving to the B12. It’s comparable and unwanted schools just like the B12. There’s nothing special about the B12 to draw anyone there.
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I Said this would happen. SEC would be nuts to allow Big 10 to get FSU
It makes sense on so many levels, but I have heard the chatter pick up on it until recently
rumor from what I gather but will text my guy regardless as I'm planning a trip down there with my son to look at UF and FSU and will meet up with him for a fsu baseball game so need to get that out of way.
oes nothing for the SEC. Would only come as a 2nd to FSU if Big10 Struck out with UNC and ND remained stubborn. Miami appears to be the pick over Clemson.That’s a great synopsisDefinitely no inside info here......... just like to listen to different videos from around 12 different YouTubers give or take. Have been listening for the past 2.5 years so i put more credence on the ones that have been right. Also have stopped listening to a few who seemed to just want clicks. What i have gathered........
FSU : Administration and Boosters want Big10. BIG wants back. Fanbase initially wanted SEC, but a few have started to get hatred towards ESPN/SEC. Have not heard anyone say SEC is in the mix.
UNC : I hear they are leaning SEC. Their next Chancellor might indicate which way they are truly leaning. Since their previous one left for Michigan St. He apparently was a Big10 lean.
Clemson : Does nothing for the SEC. Would only come as a 2nd to FSU if Big10 Struck out with UNC and ND remained stubborn. Although Miami seems to be ahead of Clemson in this scenario. Also a general consensus is that they are a long shot, but in a world where SEC takes UVA and UNC, there is a slight chance Clemson tags along.
UVA : crickets aside from going in as a 2nd to UNC if they went to the SEC. I guess an outside chance as a partner to FSU, but Miami and Clemson appear to be ahead.
Miami
G-Tech : No one is saying the Big10 is leaning here aside from people who want a cupcake (in lieu of Miami or Clemson) and say that the Atlanta market is big.
Things to keep in mind:
* all are new markets to the BIG in addition to brands
* only NC and VA is a new market to the SEC. Ergo, FSU brings more $$ to the Big10 than to the SEC. If SEC somehow goes UNC, UVA, Clemson, and FSU for defense - Big10 can still go Miami/GT/(an NC or VA school) as a 2nd to ND when they realize that ACC is not viable. So defense dilutes the SEC plus BIG still has some options.
* FSU is pissed at ESPN. Some do not want to be a 2nd to UF. Most like the appeal of National Conference.
* There is some chatter that NC State and UNC are tied at the hip. There are some skeptical on this.
* There is some chatter that Virginia Tech and UVA are tied at the hip. This one seems more likely which will impact if a Virginia team is taken. For example, if UNC is top SEC target, they might might skip VA and go with both NC schools.
* BIG and SEC not tag teaming. So it isn't like BIG takes UNC/UVA while SEC takes NCSt and VTech. SEC knows what BIG wants. SEC can play defense by going all in on UNC since they know BIG would not be too happy about NC State or Duke.
No one believes that this will occur post 2030. In other words, if FSU loses their legal battles, their worst case is waiting a few more years, but they will pay to leave prior to 2030.
If things continue the current trends, it appears....
SEC takes 2 schools UNC + UVA/NC State. There is a world where they take 4, but it dilutes them since it would just be to play defense or as a result of state politics requiring V-Tech or NCSt.
Big10 takes FSU + Miami with Clemson/UVA/NC school less likely unless somehow ND gives up on independence early. There is a world where Big10 takes 4, but the general consensus is that unless it is FSU, UNC, ND and a 4th, that the BIG will play it slow.
Seems to me that B1G would double up on FL schools (FSU, Miami) if they can't get UNC. Works for me as they followed that model with USC/UCLA for California. I honestly don't see the B1G seriously pursuing Clemson, GT, or UVA. It has to be FSU, UNC, Miami in that order. I wouldn't expand past 20 unless ND caves on independence.
Haven’t heard anything about GT which is kind of surprising as they bring the Atlanta market, have great academics and a decent overall athletic dept
ACC will just be the football 2.0 version of the Big East. They'll replace FSU/Miami with USF/Tulane most likely and keep pushing forward.
I could possibly see something like that if they can’t get a partner for FSU if and when the time comes. Same as Mizzou for A&M. Not the ideal choice but a good partner for A&M at the time and a new market.
Might be that there is no where in GA where GT is #1. Even in its own city. Does the BIG want to be a distant 2nd fiddle even if it is in a Major market?
According to their website NW has 19. Tech has 14, Tech doesn’t even have women's soccer which seems like it would be a hone run program since most of the top players seem to be high achievers in the classroom as well.
I may have missed this in this lengthy thread but if the ACC does implode, as apparently is expected, I don't see any comment on where the new additions of Cal and Standford land???
Cal is shot - they’ll be in whatever is left of the league
