OT: Bad *** photo.
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Apparently the 1983 invasion of Grenada? Cool.
The Grenada president was assassinated, the US then violated international law and invaded the tiny country to ensure it wouldnt be too influenced by Cuba during transition and to protect US med students(who said they were safe), and a couple dozen civilians were killed along with dozens of soldiers.
The US Military was then embarrassed due to the conflicting communication and Congress even passed an act that restructured military command as a result.
The invasion day is now a national holiday on the island.
The Grenada president was assassinated, the US then violated international law and invaded the tiny country to ensure it wouldnt be too influenced by Cuba during transition and to protect US med students(who said they were safe), and a couple dozen civilians were killed along with dozens of soldiers.
The US Military was then embarrassed due to the conflicting communication and Congress even passed an act that restructured military command as a result.
The invasion day is now a national holiday on the island.
It's a photo of Two Marines part of a four-man fire team. I don't understand why someone would come in and make it political. But they did. You are right it will get lock. Was not intent.
DubmassApparently the 1983 invasion of Grenada? Cool.
The Grenada president was assassinated, the US then violated international law and invaded the tiny country to ensure it wouldnt be too influenced by Cuba during transition and to protect US med students(who said they were safe), and a couple dozen civilians were killed along with dozens of soldiers.
The US Military was then embarrassed due to the conflicting communication and Congress even passed an act that restructured military command as a result.
The invasion day is now a national holiday on the island.
He titled it “Bad *** photo”, not “A shining moment in American history”. Good grief, man.Apparently the 1983 invasion of Grenada? Cool.
The Grenada president was assassinated, the US then violated international law and invaded the tiny country to ensure it wouldnt be too influenced by Cuba during transition and to protect US med students(who said they were safe), and a couple dozen civilians were killed along with dozens of soldiers.
The US Military was then embarrassed due to the conflicting communication and Congress even passed an act that restructured military command as a result.
The invasion day is now a national holiday on the island.
Oh I know, I saw the picture. It's a great picture and you are absolutely correct.
Probably because it was a cool picture.
I am a veteran and a Marine. I saw it and thought it was a bad *** photo and if's an off week. I might post more.
We don't know for sure. It could be training or rehearsal for the invasion. If you could close in on the ammo belt and see is there lead or not, then you would know. The guy in back is carrying a M16 A2 with a m203 grenade launcher. That was availed. The Kevlar helmet was issue to the Marines for that invasion. Up to that point there were still using the pot helmet. The camo looks right. They are Marines because the way the trouser are bloused over the boot and not tucked into the boot. The sleeves are rolled outward. Army does not roll sleeves like that. However, the guy with the M62 has not blouse on. When you go into combat you wear you blouse and have sleeves rolled down. Hell, it was hot and probably left it up to the individual Marine. I know that's a M62 because the ammo is too large to be a M249. I think it was Grenada. There was a lot of show boating during the battle taking photos.
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Thought I would give context to the photo and toss in a few funny IASIP gifs.
If it isn’t Grenada, lemme know. I will happily remove the stated context.
Google image search that leads to a website with a long form video discussion of the Grenada invasion.
That is clearly the old restroom structure north of Grenada Lake. They tore it down in 87' and went with a more modern concrete block set up.
Obviously, that’s the Corps of Engineers doing prep work to build the large earthen dam that created Grenada Lake.
I believe it is Grenada based on what I see in the photo, but I don't always trust photos being used in discussion. The History Channel is the worst about using images from different battles when making documentary about a battle.
Was everything about invading Grenada the best thing ever? Maybe not. But did the invasion and later annexation of Grenada and its lake ultimately result in some pretty fun weekends hooking up with some redneck lake trash when I was growing up? 100% most definitely. Sometimes you have to keep the bigger picture in mind you insufferable ****.**Apparently the 1983 invasion of Grenada? Cool.
The Grenada president was assassinated, the US then violated international law and invaded the tiny country to ensure it wouldnt be too influenced by Cuba during transition and to protect US med students(who said they were safe), and a couple dozen civilians were killed along with dozens of soldiers.
The US Military was then embarrassed due to the conflicting communication and Congress even passed an act that restructured military command as a result.
The invasion day is now a national holiday on the island.
Is this a new cuss word? I try to stay up on the trends.
Apparently the 1983 invasion of Grenada? Cool.
The Grenada president was assassinated, the US then violated international law and invaded the tiny country to ensure it wouldnt be too influenced by Cuba during transition and to protect US med students(who said they were safe), and a couple dozen civilians were killed along with dozens of soldiers.
The US Military was then embarrassed due to the conflicting communication and Congress even passed an act that restructured military command as a result.
The invasion day is now a national holiday on the island.
Golfer left out the part about Grenada legally gaining their independence from the UK in '74 but still choosing to be a member of the Commonwealth, having a Prime Minister elected and still recognizing the Queen as Monarch. Their elected Prime Minister was out of the country and a Marxist Leninist Communist coup ensued and declared themselves in power and suspended the constitution written by the people. The new communist regime proceeded to establish relations with Nicaragua, Cuba, Soviets and that usual crew. They ruled the island for 4 years and were building an airport for "commercial aircraft" but was also large enough to support the largest Soviet military aircraft that existed. After the invasion by the US the following Soviet military equipment was found on the island: 5.6 MILLION rounds of ammo, 291 "machine guns", 6,330 rifles, 12 anti aircraft guns, and 12 armored personnel carriers. He left out the part too about all the surrounding Caribbean nations requesting the the US intervene to keep the Soviets/Cuban presence at bay as well. Now, you can lock it down since Golfers view isn't the only one presented........
I thought it was covering somebody going to a Memphis Kroger. Don't understand why it would be locked.
On my phone, looks like there’s lead in the rounds. Crimped blanks would be shorter, plus the obviously missing blank adapters…
The buzzkill squad is here to ruin your day.
This looks like the”before@ picture in the assault of Nakatomi Tower
Democrats like GLFR love to present Republicans in the worst possible light rather than celebrating or at least presenting information like yours above as to why we took such a measure.
By his logic, Republicans could criticize Obama for taking out Osama Bin Laden because after all we did enter our ally's airspace (Pakistan) without permission and conducted an unauthorized military operation on their soil. I'm sorry, I don't remember any Republican leadership criticizing this move, because after all it was for the betterment of our country and obviously a non partisan issue. But you do you America Hater, cough cough GLFR.
Woah. I wasnt trying to skew anything.
I am continually told I type too much, so I tried to be brief and mention just the immediate event leading up to the invasion, as well as a couple general reasons and results of the invasion.
I am very happy to have this conversation and your post was informative. There is no need, in my view, to lock this thread down. It obviously didnt need to exist to begin with, but the subsequent conversation neednt be angry, so I think its great if it stays open and the topic is discussed.
Its an off week- why not randomly discuss a relatively small geopolitical event from over 40 years ago?
Not to distract from the original post, but it's a good tool to use in general given the proliferation of misattributed photos and now AI. I use it every time I see something that is prompting an opinion.
International relations, especially when military action is involved, is rarely cut and dried. Whether the US should involve itself or not is a constant discussion/debate, and to what extend is another constant discussion/debate.
I have never viewed these events as 'Democrat led = good or Republican led = bad'.
There are Democrats who support the US invading or defending other countries.
There are Democrats who condemn the US invading or defending other countries.
There are Republicans who support the US invading or defending other countries.
There are Republicans who condemn the US invading or defending other countries.
Whether there is support or not is often tied to what the purpose is or who the invader or invaded is. The president's party is often not a consideration for many people. To be clear, it is often a consideration for other people.
There are 350MM people in this country...you are going to end up with a lot of opinions when there are that many people. Views on war/battle are not monolithic for each party.
- "the US then violated international law and invaded the tiny country"
- "US med students(who said they were safe)"
- "a couple dozen civilians were killed"
- "The US Military was then embarrassed"
- This thread "obviously didnt need to exist to begin with"
- why not "randomly discuss a relatively small geopolitical event" from over 40 years ago
Who, you skew?? Nah you would never skew.
The first three bullet points you cite are historical fact and backed by, well, activities in history which confirm the points.
The fourth bullet point is my interpretation that is again based on historical fact. An entire Act was passed by Congress to address and fix things.
The fifth bullet point is my opinion and wasnt made during my first post, which is what I was commenting on when I said I wasnt trying to skew anything.
The sixth bullet point is me genuinely saying- 'its an off week, so why not discuss this event?'...so I am not suer why you think that would be me trying to skew anything.
mm hmm, yes I know, there are always reasons.
They are Marines. They don't have all those silly unit patches; the sleeves are rolled outward and the trouser are bloused around the boots with bands.
You claimed I was skewing info with 6 bullets, and none of them skewed info.
The first 3 are historical fact.
The 4th was my opinion for why another historical fact happened.
The 5th doesnt address my post that is claimed to skew.
The 6th is me encouraging this discussion continue so it doesnt skew anything.
Literally nothing you posted is evidence of me skewing the Invasion of Grenada.
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