I was talking on the lesser known guys. Robert is ranked on every top 100 lists, I didn't include him in the previous post but should have
OT: Baseball Free Agents
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I was talking on the lesser known guys. Robert is ranked on every top 100 lists, I didn't include him in the previous post but should have
I was referring to every GM they picked ahead of Theo and missed this hidden gem. But like PPD, I say let's wait three years and see which pick is doing what.
As I look back at first round picks 5+ years ago, so few make the majors. Fewer become stars. And this includes top ten picks. I think the Sox have shown better ability to identify and draft talent than in the past. I would agree that there ability to develop talent through the MiLB leaves much to be desired. But the ones that don't need much tutoring - Sale Rodon, Anderson, maybe Madrigal - well, they have proven to be starters.
The teams that hit on the majority of their first round picks and their international free agent signings are the ones the are consistently good. It comes down to talent identification and talent development and Hahn's track record right now is not looking great. He can still redeem himself but the early signs are not encouraging for White Sox fans in my opinion.
I don't disagree here. Jury is still out. There have been too many "safe" picks by them so far IMO. The college guy who doesn't require too much seasoning, but don't have much boom factor either.
I'd be pretty shocked if they go HS at 3 this June, but I do think they need to start supplementing all of this core with guys that are 5-6 years away as well so they're not all due big $ at the same time.
It's that, plus the fact that teams only have 40 spots to protect once players reach the experience level where they need to be protected. The Rays in particular are about to face a situation where they have too many good prospects and won't want to lose any for nothing in the Rule 5 draft, so don't be surprised to see them package some guys either for an upgrade at the MLB level or for a highly thought of player who's younger.
As my grandfather would have said, we should all have this problem. But it's still something to monitor.
There are very few instances where the 40 man limit has become a serious problem because a team has too much talent that needs to be protected. Don’t know enough about tampa’s situation but if this is truly the case, now is the time to use that capital to make a run at the big league level.
For sure. They're gonna start making prospect for prospect trades soon so they don't lose guys to the rule 5 because of the roster crunch they're going to have to go through.
Good read on the labor situation:
https://www.si.com/mlb/2019/02/07/free-agency-social-media-bryce-harper
https://www.si.com/mlb/2019/02/07/free-agency-social-media-bryce-harper
Lots of chatter around the league about “collusion” because Harper and Manny are unsigned. They seem to forget that both guys have offers. It’s just that offers are record setters from teams where these guys want to go. Average MLB payrolls have risen from $110M in 2013 to $139M in 2018. Not a huge increase but certainly significant. The 2013 figure is also a bit misleading because of spending by NYY and the Dodgers that was over twice the league average. In 2018, only 5 teams have payroll under $100M.
Harper has a 10 year, $300 M offer from the Nats. Reports say the Nats upped it last month.
Machado has an offer from the WSox for around $200 M based on reports. The Padres made an offer, according to some.
The poor entitled snowflakes aren’t getting gobs of money thrown at them by multiple teams.
The horror.
Machado has an offer from the WSox for around $200 M based on reports. The Padres made an offer, according to some.
The poor entitled snowflakes aren’t getting gobs of money thrown at them by multiple teams.
The horror.
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I think you need to study up some before you use "snowflakes" again.
Meanwhile, as while the average MLB payroll has gone up 26% in the time you note, MLB revenue has gone up 33% over the same time period.
Some perspective, my dude.
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Yes, I’m well aware that revenues have grown faster than payroll, dude.
Is there a law that stipulates every incremental dime earned by the business has to go toward employee compensation? In many healthy businesses revenues grow faster than payroll, dude.
As noted earlier, Machado and Harper are more the victims of bad timing. There are a handful of teams that do mega contracts (Yankees, Red Sox, Dodgers, Cubs), and they are sitting this one out.
Without a hostage, there is no ransom, dude.
Or the word “Dude” being used so liberally.
“Let me explain something to you. Um, I am not Mr. Lebowski. You’re Mr. Lebowski. I’m the Dude. So that’s what you call me. You know, that or, uh, His Dudeness, or uh, Duder, or El Duderino if you’re not into the whole brevity thing.”
The players union has spent the last decade strategically reducing the money that players can make early in their careers through strict slotting of draft and international pool money, at the same time the front office has realized that players are already too old by the time they reach free agency, at the same time that the desire of players to lock in cash has reduced the quality of the free agent pool.
I would anticipate that the players union will negotiate for a ‘percentage of revenue’ split. (I’m no expert, but I’m pretty sure the NBA has one.)
I would anticipate that the players union will negotiate for a ‘percentage of revenue’ split. (I’m no expert, but I’m pretty sure the NBA has one.)
Ha, no kidding.
And for all this talk of ownership collusion, both these FAs are going to get 10/300 or more. So, really, the story of the offseason is that Twitter+hot takes = ******* garbage
Technically, @corbi296 is right. Salary starts with a 3, not a 2.
Looks like this scathing hot take goes the way of the Bortles Battle!
Good for him. I hope this puts to rest any silly talk of collusion. What it does not change is the view that the economics of baseball are broken and are risking killing the golden goose. Players are getting ridiculous contracts like this one at the same time that owners are progressively getting a bigger piece of the total revenue pie. The average fan is getting priced out from attending games and pretty soon fans won’t even be able to watch games on TV without forking over extra money. If teams like the Cubs are building their business model on the premise the average fan is going to fork over extra money solely to watch Cubs games on Sinclair, I think they are fooling themselves. I certainly won’t be doing that. Heck, this might just be the push I need to become a White Sox fan.
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As a fan of White Sox baseball and Northwestern basketball, I urge you not to make yourself any more miserable.
I still dont understand how DC and Baltimore allowed these guys to get to free agency so young.
Hilarious how poorly the White Sox played this. They go public saying they would be disappointed if they don’t get him, so now the fans are pissed from setting the expectation without any need to. Then, they acquire two ****** players because of ties to Machado but don’t get Machado. Then, say they thought they had the best offer all along showing they didn’t know the market.
Overmatched front office. Horrid ownership. I’ll wait this out like I did Wirtz.
Overmatched front office. Horrid ownership. I’ll wait this out like I did Wirtz.
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Possible. Their financial position will look even less attractive if their sweetheart lease gets renegotiated to market terms once it expires in a few years. There are several growing markets that would kill to get a MLB team ( Nashville and Charlotte come to mind). A new owner with no ties to Chicago may be less inclined to play second fiddle to the Cubs in the Chicago market.
Montreal? Unless they up their attendance numbers in a big way, why would a new owner buy into be the second team in Chicago?
Maybe. They'll still be my favorite team no matter where they move. Well, within reason - I'm not rooting for a team from Alabama or something.
