OT: Beer Expertise Needed

[Jeffreauxdawg]

I have become more and more of a Whiskey guy over the years, but I love a good beer as much as the next guy. I really love the taste of some craft beer and microbrews, but inevitably they give me a splitting headache. It comes right after I quit drinking and is not because of alcohol (I drink large amounts of high proof bourbon and scotch on the regular without issue and once in a while go overboard and get the spins, but never a headache the same night like with beer.)

Last night was a perfect example.

Mrs Socks and I got a sitter for the kids and went out for drinks and dinner. We did a little pub/bar hopping during Happy Hour before our dinner reservations. I was driving so I took it easy. (Mrs Socks got wasted and may have lost her privelages at the last spot for what it's worth.)

Over 4 hours with a decent amount of walking around downtown and a full meal I had a grand total of 4 beers around 16 oz each. We left the final stop after dinner at 9:15pm. We went straight home and by 10:00 the headache was throbbing. I drink plenty of water all night, but grabbed more and a few ibuprofen and hit the hay. I woke up at 12:30 with a pounding headache and a cold sweat on the pillow. Took 4 more ibuprofen and another glass of water and laid back down.

I wake up at 6:00 this morning feeling like a champ. Mrs Socks is not so lucky. I didn't get close to drunk, but that 17ing headache was something else. For the record, I can drink 4 Miller Lite or other mass produced light beers an hour and get drunk, but never a same night headache.

Here's the list of the beers I had with links. I'm hopeful some of you beer gurus can shed some light. Budweiser and the like gave me a headache back in the day, but it was 20 years ago since I last drank one. Also, high rye bourbon and rye whiskey will give me a headache, but not like last night. I'm leaning towards some kind of hop allergy or the unfiltered aspect of the microbrews.

2-16 OZ Western Collective Lagers (can poured in glass) from 5:15pm to 7:00 pm and 2 glasses of water while drinking.
https://westerncollective.beer/products/wstrn-lager-6-pack-togo

20 minute walk around downtown and 1-12oz White Dog Blood Orange Hefeweizen (can poured in glass) from 7:20-7:45pm.
https://www.whitedogbrewing.com/blood-orange-hefeweizen-description


15 minute walk to dinner restaurant. Couple glasses of water and a 16 oz Lonesome Larry Lager (draft) with dinner from 8:00-9:15pm.
https://www.sockeyebrew.com/


While I am not completely going to rule out a case of Vaginosis or the like being my "real" problem, let's leave that out for this exercise.**

ETA. Sam Adams too. A couple of summers ago I bought a 12 pack of Sam Adams Summer Ale in bottles and 1 beer gave me a head splitter. Gave the other 11 away.

 

[Cooterpoot]

Drink a water after each beer. Got a friend that got headaches and it helped him.

 

[Miketice]

I don’t know but I like the story.

 

[Baddmann]

I don’t know but I like the story.

Agreed. Well told story!

Could it be some allergen from not being pasteurized? I had to stop drinking Coors because they cold filter it and it was starting to give me some allergy symptoms...

 

[57stratdawg]

My advice is whiskey and Ubers

 

[ZombieKissinger]

As a doctor, I can confirm that it’s a jealous whiskey demon who thinks you’re cheating on her with a cheap ***** wearing expensive makeup

 

[Jeffreauxdawg]

As a doctor, I can confirm that it’s a jealous whiskey demon who thinks you’re cheating on her with a cheap ***** wearing expensive makeup

Thanks Doc. That explains the night sweats.

 

[tbaydog]

Used to have same issues. Tried Molson several years back, solved my problems.

 

[dog12]

This may not work for you since you enjoy the craft beers, but I think the solution is obvious: stick to Miiler Lite, since it doesn't cause headaches for you.

I drink two kinds of beer: 1) Miller Lite; and 2) any beer that I don't pay for (i.e., free beer).

 

[Apoplectic_Objurgator]

Doesn’t sound like a hydration issue but an impurity or allergy issue. Are you sensitive to lectins?

 

[Cooterpoot]

Sex cures headaches. Or that's what I tell my wife. Seems to help me.

 

[fevans]

 

[fevans]

I know someone who is allergic to hops and doesn't drink beer but has no problems with mixed drinks. He said certain beers are worse than others. Many craft beers such as IPAs in particular have really high hops concentrations. Luckily there are other styles of beers which are as hoppy as IPAs and are very good as well. Here's a couple of articles that might offer some guidance if you do have a hops allergy.


https://alcoholvolume.com/hops-in-beer/

https://www.portlandmercury.com/Lus...819/allergic-to-hops-you-can-still-drink-beer

 

[AlCoDog]

You haven’t had a Budweiser in 20 years?

 

[57stratdawg]

Have you ever tried seltzers? If you have an allergy, they might be a workaround for you.

And before anyone gives you a hard time, I’ll drink the **** out of a White Claw Black Cherry.

 

[Cooterpoot]

Have you ever tried seltzers? If you have an allergy, they might be a workaround for you.

And before anyone gives you a hard time, I’ll drink the **** out of a White Claw Black Cherry.

Turn in your damn man card!

 

[Jeffreauxdawg]

Have you ever tried seltzers? If you have an allergy, they might be a workaround for you.

And before anyone gives you a hard time, I’ll drink the **** out of a White Claw Black Cherry.

I just can't get into the taste. I don't like sparkling water either. I have had a few hard seltzer's and it tastes like someone ate a bag of Jolly Ranchers and burped through a straw into a Sprite fountain drink after the syrup ran out.

 

[Dawgbite]

You haven’t had a Budweiser in 20 years?[/QUOTE
Probably longer than that for me. To the OP, I'm a beer drinker but wheat beers give me a skull splitter. About two is my max on wheat beer yet I can drink a dozen ales or Pilsner craft beers and have zero headache issues.

 

[hydrodawg]

Allergic to brewer's yeast?

Try getting a small pack of brewers yeast (not bread yeast) and mix it with water like a supplement. See if it does the same thing. Since microbrews don't filter their dead yeast.

I have become more and more of a Whiskey guy over the years, but I love a good beer as much as the next guy. I really love the taste of some craft beer and microbrews, but inevitably they give me a splitting headache. It comes right after I quit drinking and is not because of alcohol (I drink large amounts of high proof bourbon and scotch on the regular without issue and once in a while go overboard and get the spins, but never a headache the same night like with beer.)

Last night was a perfect example.

Mrs Socks and I got a sitter for the kids andwent out for drinks and dinner. We did a little pub/bar hopping during Happy Hour before our dinner reservations. I was driving so I took it easy. (Mrs Socks got wasted and may have lost her privelages at the last spot for what it's worth.)

Over 4 hours with a decent amount of walking around downtown and a full meal I had a grand total of 4 beers around 16 oz each. We left the final stop after dinner at 9:15pm. We went straight home and by 10:00 the headache was throbbing. I drink plenty of water all night, but grabbed more and a few ibuprofen and hit the hay. I woke up at 12:30 with a pounding headache and a cold sweat on the pillow. Took 4 more ibuprofen and another glass of water and laid back down.

I wake up at 6:00 this morning feeling like a champ. Mrs Socks is not so lucky. I didn't get close to drunk, but that 17ing headache was something else. For the record, I can drink 4 Miller Lite or other mass produced light beers an hour and get drunk, but never a same night headache.

Here's the list of the beers I had with links. I'm hopeful some of you beer gurus can shed some light. Budweiser and the like gave me a headache back in the day, but it was 20 years ago since I last drank one. Also, high rye bourbon and rye whiskey will give me a headache, but not like last night. I'm leaning towards some kind of hop allergy or the unfiltered aspect of the microbrews.

2-16 OZ Western Collective Lagers (can poured in glass) from 5:15pm to 7:00 pm and 2 glasses of water while drinking.
https://westerncollective.beer/products/wstrn-lager-6-pack-togo

20 minute walk around downtown and 1-12oz White Dog Blood Orange Hefeweizen (can poured in glass) from 7:20-7:45pm.
https://www.whitedogbrewing.com/blood-orange-hefeweizen-description


15 minute walk to dinner restaurant. Couple glasses of water and a 16 oz Lonesome Larry Lager (draft) with dinner from 8:00-9:15pm.
https://www.sockeyebrew.com/


While I am not completely going to rule out a case of Vaginosis or the like being my "real" problem, let's leave that out for this exercise.**

 

[msudawg12]

Were they draft?

The head brewer for budweiser explained to us at an event in Meridian a few years back that most bars use the quick clean-/dry chemicals to clean glasses and they are meant to air dry. But many bars clean and throw them right into a freezer to give a frosty glass. The chemicals dont get to evaporate and therefore end up in your beer while you drink it and you end up with a headache.

Not sure this is your scenario but its a thought

 

[Jeffreauxdawg]

You haven’t had a Budweiser in 20 years?

Probably longer than that for me. To the OP, I'm a beer drinker but wheat beers give me a skull splitter. About two is my max on wheat beer yet I can drink a dozen ales or Pilsner craft beers and have zero headache issues.

Wheat maybe a common thread. My worst headache ever was from a single bottle of Sam Adams Summer Ale... Made with wheat. The Blood Orange Hefeweizen last night was a wheat beer.

Last week we went to a local microbrewey and I drank a golden ale 3 20oz glasses with no issues. And golden ales seem to be low wheat.

High wheat content may be my problem.

 

[mcdawg22]

As a doctor, I can confirm that it’s a jealous whiskey demon who thinks you’re cheating on her with a cheap ***** wearing expensive makeup

This is my diagnosis as well. I’m not a doctor but I have a PHD in drinking.

 

[uptowndawg]

I can taste this post

I just can't get into the taste. I don't like sparkling water either. I have had a few hard seltzer's and it tastes like someone ate a bag of Jolly Ranchers and burped through a straw into a Sprite fountain drink after the syrup ran out.

Good description

 

[IBleedMaroonDawg]

Want my advice? Drink bourbon instead.

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[Dawgbite]

Beer is proof that God wants us to be happy!

 

[msualohadog]

Liquid B12 and ibuprofin works for me. I used to get really bad headaches. Buddy of mine turned me on to B12 and I keep a bottle in my bathroom now.

 

[Jeffreauxdawg]

B12 before or after drinking?

 

[msualohadog]

After. Usually when I go to bed but sometimes late evening.

 

[Mobile Bay]

Are you by any chance on a drug called Metformin. Ever since the doc started me on that two beers makes me have to lie down sick. But the other things I drink and I am just fine.

Otherwise I fear you may have a terminal case of getting old.

 

[Mobile Bay]

Have you ever tried seltzers? If you have an allergy, they might be a workaround for you.

And before anyone gives you a hard time, I’ll drink the **** out of a White Claw Black Cherry.

Haters gonna hate. I am with you. Lets get these guys on a boat, two foot seas and 90 degrees in the sun and see how they like that whisky and craft beer. And there ain't no laws when you're drinkin Claws.

 

[Mobile Bay]

Want my advice? Drink bourbon instead.

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Got to mix that with some diet coke or it won't taste good.

 

[Dawgbite]

A nurse friend introduced me to the Rally Patch, which is basically a transdermal B12 plus other vitamins patch. Works best if applied before drinking but works well after too. With it applied you can drink, drink, and drink some more and absolutely no hangover or headache. I keep them around for events where I'm likely to over indulge.

 

[Crazy Cotton]

Try this experiment: About an hour or so before you have your first beer, take an antihistamine. I do this when I'm going to drink red wine and it has worked like a charm for me. Who knows, may be some sort of allergic reaction your having to one of the ingredients and the antihistamine may calm that down.

 

[Jeffreauxdawg]

Try this experiment: About an hour or so before you have your first beer, take an antihistamine. I do this when I'm going to drink red wine and it has worked like a charm for me. Who knows, may be some sort of allergic reaction your having to one of the ingredients and the antihistamine may calm that down.

I was reading about this. I think I am going to give that a shot. It makes sense. The reaction has to be some kind of mild allergy.... It seems impossible to figure out exactly to what at this point.

 

[vandaldawg]

Eh. I used to drink a rye IPA that i really liked. I’d get massive hangovers even when I would have like two. I became convinced I was allergic to the rye. Maybe maybe not, but no other beers did that to me like that. Could be that or maybe gluten allergies or something.

 

[M R DAWGS]

This may not work for you since you enjoy the craft beers, but I think the solution is obvious: stick to Miiler Lite, since it doesn't cause headaches for you.

I drink two kinds of beer: 1) Miller Lite; and 2) any beer that I don't pay for (i.e., free beer).

same here

 

[PineGroveBully]

That’s why God invented Natty Lights

 

[Jeffreauxdawg]

That’s why God invented Natty Lights

No Clark,

The Natty Light was invented in case you find yourself in the awkward scenario of being broke today and needing to **** through a coffee straw without touching the sides tomorrow.

 

[Dawghouse]

I have to put a plug in for crook and marker brand. I really dislike seltzers but those are amazing.

If you haven't tried them, find them.

 

[PineGroveBully]

Are we sure you’re not a woman? You have to many gripes about beer to have nuts.**