OT - Big 4 Mom's Ranking

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Plenty of talk on here about the Big 4's academics and athletics. Now it's time to rank the moms. I feel like number 1 is easy and number 4 is easy, will need help with 2 and 3.

1. JA - Generations of hot FNEJ Tennis Mom families give JA Moms the championship, and it's not even close.

2/3 Prep/MRA - I know Prep has Moms who have benefited from generations of good breeding, but there also seems to be a Belhaven/Fondren "Crunchy" vive to some of the Moms. Likely has to do with the long standing partnership with FPDS. My knowledge of MRA is very limited. I can see it being a cut below JA/Prep as it is more "new money."

4. Hartfield - easily last. I know more Hartfield families than all the rest combined. I know Hartfield has some "mega donors," but there are also many families struggling to pay tuition when it doesn't make economic sense for the family. Poorer people are less attractive, on average, than wealthier people.
 
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I don’t think I know a single person that sends kids to Hatfield. I know a few for JA and Prep. I know tons from MRA. Lots of hot moms from MRA but man that is a weird culture they got going on at that place. Maybe it’s just the people I know but they tend to only want to socialize with other MRA people. But all those academy’s could be like that.
 
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I don’t think I know a single person that sends kids to Hatfield. I know a few for JA and Prep. I know tons from MRA. Lots of hot moms from MRA but man that is a weird culture they got going on at that place. Maybe it’s just the people I know but they tend to only want to socialize with other MRA people. But all those academy’s could be like that.
Do you live Madison or Skankin Rankin? I don’t think anyone goes to Hartfield that doesn’t live nearby in the county. It’s the pinnacle of Skankin travel sports and Pinelake one-uppery.

Can’t imagine a Madisonite going there.
 

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That list is not wrong. I’d put Prep moms #2, but it’s close. I still don’t understand why well to do but not filthy rich families send their kids to MRA instead of Madison Central or Germantown.
 
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Do you live Madison or Skankin Rankin? I don’t think anyone goes to Hartfield that doesn’t live nearby in the county. It’s the pinnacle of Skankin travel sports and Pinelake one-uppery.

Can’t imagine a Madisonite going there.
I’m in Madison… probably why I don’t know anyone at Hatfield. I figure Hartfield is essentially the MRA of rankin.
 
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Ha! I will not rate the moms but I will stereotype the people.

1. Jackson Academy families more than likely live in Eastover or somewhere off Ridgewood Road. One or both of the parents are proud graduates of Jackson Academy, and remember their time there fondly. These families are usually fairly wealthy, but some grandparents are paying the tuition bill. You'll find a mix of stay at home moms and high powered girl boss moms.

2. Jackson Prep families are a little like JA, but you will find them all over the Metro. These families are typically wealthy AND connected - politicians, business owners, etc. You'll find less working moms at Prep, but they are in the Junior League.

3. MRA families are like someone said, sort of stuck up. They socialize with each other and look down on their neighbors who send their kids to Madison Central or Germantown. Who cares about the average education their kids are receiving - it's all about sports at MRA.

4. Hartfield families think they are keeping their kids from the evil that is Northwest Rankin or Brandon. They know that the academics are not great, but did you hear that Northwest had a kid get caught with drugs? A lot of Hartfield families sacrifice to afford private school, but the chance that their kids are influenced by public school kids is too great. Where MRA families look down on public school families, Hartfield families feel sorry for them.
 

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Ha! I will not rate the moms but I will stereotype the people.

1. Jackson Academy families more than likely live in Eastover or somewhere off Ridgewood Road. One or both of the parents are proud graduates of Jackson Academy, and remember their time there fondly. These families are usually fairly wealthy, but some grandparents are paying the tuition bill. You'll find a mix of stay at home moms and high powered girl boss moms.

2. Jackson Prep families are a little like JA, but you will find them all over the Metro. These families are typically wealthy AND connected - politicians, business owners, etc. You'll find less working moms at Prep, but they are in the Junior League.

3. MRA families are like someone said, sort of stuck up. They socialize with each other and look down on their neighbors who send their kids to Madison Central or Germantown. Who cares about the average education their kids are receiving - it's all about sports at MRA.

4. Hartfield families think they are keeping their kids from the evil that is Northwest Rankin or Brandon. They know that the academics are not great, but did you hear that Northwest had a kid get caught with drugs? A lot of Hartfield families sacrifice to afford private school, but the chance that their kids are influenced by public school kids is too great. Where MRA families look down on public school families, Hartfield families feel sorry for them.
You are saying or they saying kids at MRA, Prep, JA or Heartfield don't do drug? I would not be surprising if those rich *** hole don't have a higher percentage of Seniors doing drugs.
 
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You are saying or they saying kids at MRA, Prep, JA or Heartfield don't do drug? I would not be surprising if those rich *** hole don't have a higher percentage of Seniors doing drugs.
I didn't say that, and you touched on the hilarity.
 

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As someone who grew up in a part of the state where academies were essentially non existent. I look at academies just about like I look at home schooling. Youre not doing your kid any favors by isolating them from the general public. At some point and time they’re going to have to coexist with everyone else, they might as well learn to do it early in life.
 

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As someone who grew up in a part of the state where academies were essentially non existent. I look at academies just about like I look at home schooling. Youre not doing your kid any favors by isolating them from the general public. At some point and time they’re going to have to coexist with everyone else, they might as well learn to do it early in life.
For the most part I agree. But if you live in Bennie Thompsons district, you don’t have much choice (with a few exceptions).
 

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As someone who grew up in a part of the state where academies were essentially non existent. I look at academies just about like I look at home schooling. Youre not doing your kid any favors by isolating them from the general public. At some point and time they’re going to have to coexist with everyone else, they might as well learn to do it early in life.
That's just you being self-righteous.

First of all, there's no reason you have to sit in classrooms for 8 hours a day with a bunch of other kids your age. Second, keeping them away from riff raff serves no bad purpose in my mind. You don't do either of those in real life.
 
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Ha! I will not rate the moms but I will stereotype the people.

1. Jackson Academy families more than likely live in Eastover or somewhere off Ridgewood Road. One or both of the parents are proud graduates of Jackson Academy, and remember their time there fondly. These families are usually fairly wealthy, but some grandparents are paying the tuition bill. You'll find a mix of stay at home moms and high powered girl boss moms.

2. Jackson Prep families are a little like JA, but you will find them all over the Metro. These families are typically wealthy AND connected - politicians, business owners, etc. You'll find less working moms at Prep, but they are in the Junior League.

3. MRA families are like someone said, sort of stuck up. They socialize with each other and look down on their neighbors who send their kids to Madison Central or Germantown. Who cares about the average education their kids are receiving - it's all about sports at MRA.

4. Hartfield families think they are keeping their kids from the evil that is Northwest Rankin or Brandon. They know that the academics are not great, but did you hear that Northwest had a kid get caught with drugs? A lot of Hartfield families sacrifice to afford private school, but the chance that their kids are influenced by public school kids is too great. Where MRA families look down on public school families, Hartfield families feel sorry for them.
I attended 1 and 2 and heartily endorse this description. MRA has changed since I was in HS, I think they get a lot of that Reunion energy now. Hartfield did not exist when I was in HS, so I'll take your word for it.
 
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I attended 1 and 2 and heartily endorse this description. MRA has changed since I was in HS, I think they get a lot of that Reunion energy now. Hartfield did not exist when I was in HS, so I'll take your word for it.
There is a sliver of land that starts about Dogwood, goes up to Holly Bush and rides 471 to Brandon where public school is the worst thing to ever happen to mankind. The mentality is enough that it keeps Northwest Rankin from being everything it could be (another Madison Central)
 

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I attended 1 and 2 and heartily endorse this description. MRA has changed since I was in HS, I think they get a lot of that Reunion energy now. Hartfield did not exist when I was in HS, so I'll take your word for it.
What exactly is “Reunion energy” ?
 

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There is a sliver of land that starts about Dogwood, goes up to Holly Bush and rides 471 to Brandon where public school is the worst thing to ever happen to mankind. The mentality is enough that it keeps Northwest Rankin from being everything it could be (another Madison Central)
And here I was thinking that the problem was that Flohood built a bunch of crummy apartments, and have a bunch of crappily built houses with foundation problems that nobody wants, which led to an influx of riff raff.

But nah man, it's just that people are scared of public school.

By the way, NWR peaked in 1995, just like most things in Rankin County and around the Reservoir. Been downhill ever since, most parents want to be at Brandon or Pisgah. Brandon has the zoning to keep out apartments (like Madison) and minimizes riff raff, and Pisgah is the new stuff.

NWR and MC are not alike except for being 7A.

All that said, all of Rankin has a danged military level police force so by and large it's still a very safe area. Folks do generally fear the police.

And all THAT said....you now have people fleeing Brandon to go to Pelahatchie. That one has surprised me. Not necessarily school, as they all either go to East Rankin or Hartfield.
 
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And here I was thinking that the problem was that Flohood built a bunch of crummy apartments, and have a bunch of crappily built houses with foundation problems that nobody wants, which led to an influx of riff raff.

But nah man, it's just that people are scared of public school.

By the way, NWR peaked in 1995, just like most things in Rankin County and around the Reservoir. Been downhill ever since, most parents want to be at Brandon or Pisgah. Brandon has the zoning to keep out apartments (like Madison) and minimizes riff raff, and Pisgah is the new stuff.

NWR and MC are not alike except for being 7A.


Yes, the transient population hurts NWR, but MC deals with the Flora crowd. NWR's facilities are incredible. Its between them and Oxford for the nicest school in the state, while MC's main buildings are 35 years old. NWR has had the opportunity to be one of the best schools in the state, but the Pinelake crowd shunning NWR for Hartfield has hurt them.

Brandon is taking a cue from Tupelo and trying to be the community pride school. They are doing a nice job as well, and its hurting NWR.
 
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Yes, the transient population hurts NWR, but MC deals with the Flora crowd. NWR's facilities are incredible. Its between them and Oxford for the nicest school in the state, while MC's main buildings are 35 years old. NWR has had the opportunity to be one of the best schools in the state, but the Pinelake crowd shunning NWR for Hartfield has hurt them.

Brandon is taking a cue from Tupelo and trying to be the community pride school. They are doing a nice job as well, and its hurting NWR.
Pinelake crowd takes away from Brandon as well, and probably others. Hartfield takes kids from as far away as Raleigh (that I know of). And of course Prep takes away as well. I know kids from Florence at Prep.

And I know both Brandon and MC have rough areas, but it's not the late 90s style apartments like Flohood and Ridgeland have. Those things are just blinking LED neon lights for crime.

MC is the community pride school too. Anchored by Madison, similar to Brandon. Both are county districts. I just don't see Flohood as nice and strong enough to the same. They have gone all in on the retail, again, similar to Ridgeland.

Funny thing is how Pearl has been able to hold on by having their own city school, even as the actual down has declined.
 

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All that said, all of Rankin has a danged military level police force so by and large it's still a very safe area. Folks do generally fear the police.
The damn sheriff's office is the most dangerous criminals you will generally find in Rankin Co.
 
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And here I was thinking that the problem was that Flohood built a bunch of crummy apartments, and have a bunch of crappily built houses with foundation problems that nobody wants, which led to an influx of riff raff.

But nah man, it's just that people are scared of public school.

By the way, NWR peaked in 1995, just like most things in Rankin County and around the Reservoir. Been downhill ever since, most parents want to be at Brandon or Pisgah. Brandon has the zoning to keep out apartments (like Madison) and minimizes riff raff, and Pisgah is the new stuff.

NWR and MC are not alike except for being 7A.

All that said, all of Rankin has a danged military level police force so by and large it's still a very safe area. Folks do generally fear the police.

And all THAT said....you now have people fleeing Brandon to go to Pelahatchie. That one has surprised me. Not necessarily school, as they all either go to East Rankin or Hartfield.
Me thinks, as usual, you have no idea what you're blabbering on about.
 

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Yes, the transient population hurts NWR, but MC deals with the Flora crowd. NWR's facilities are incredible. Its between them and Oxford for the nicest school in the state, while MC's main buildings are 35 years old. NWR has had the opportunity to be one of the best schools in the state, but the Pinelake crowd shunning NWR for Hartfield has hurt them.

Brandon is taking a cue from Tupelo and trying to be the community pride school. They are doing a nice job as well, and its hurting NWR.
NWR is still a good school, I've put three though there, but mine were in AP classes.

Private schools in the Delta and Jxn are necessary. Private schools in areas with good schools certainly take away from public schools. There are many Pinelake kool aid drinkers who are going bankrupt trying to send three kids to Hartfield (I guess the Lord told them to do it?) that certainly hurts NWR (and probably Brandon to an extent) as those would normally be middle class private school kids.

Having great public schools obviously has a huge impact on local community and home values.
 
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NWR is still a good school, I've put three though there, but mine were in AP classes.

Private schools in the Delta and Jxn are necessary. Private schools in areas with good schools certainly take away from public schools. There are many Pinelake kool aid drinkers who are going bankrupt trying to send three kids to Hartfield (I guess the Lord told them to do it?) that certainly hurts NWR (and probably Brandon to an extent) as those would normally be middle class private school kids.

Having great public schools obviously has a huge impact on local community and home values.
Agreed.

The top of Northwest Rankin is as good as any school in the state. The middle is weaker than say Oxford or Madison Central. Then you get Hartfield kids with 4.4 GPAs and 19 ACTs that would have been 4.1 and 25s at NWR.
 
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I don’t think I know a single person that sends kids to Hatfield. I know a few for JA and Prep. I know tons from MRA. Lots of hot moms from MRA but man that is a weird culture they got going on at that place. Maybe it’s just the people I know but they tend to only want to socialize with other MRA people. But all those academy’s could be like that.
In general, you nailed the MRA fraternizing. Very tight knit group at the expense of not having many "outside" friendships". There are exceptions. If you are an MRA person and the first part of this post offends you, feel better, because I'm sure you are the exception I'm referring to.
 
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That list is not wrong. I’d put Prep moms #2, but it’s close. I still don’t understand why well to do but not filthy rich families send their kids to MRA instead of Madison Central or Germantown.
I do see some people transfer there when they can't get on the field in their public school.
 

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Me thinks, as usual, you have no idea what you're blabbering on about.
Whatever you think man. Me thinks you know exactly what I’m talking about.

NWR is a shell of what it was. @615dawg of course it’s nice, it’s brand new. I mean Noxubee County built a new school years ago, did it become a good school due to that? Noooooo
 

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Whatever you think man. Me thinks you know exactly what I’m talking about.

NWR is a shell of what it was. @615dawg of course it’s nice, it’s brand new. I mean Noxubee County built a new school years ago, did it become a good school due to that? Noooooo
Do you have any kids there now? If not, when did you last have a kid there?
 

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As someone who grew up in a part of the state where academies were essentially non existent. I look at academies just about like I look at home schooling. Youre not doing your kid any favors by isolating them from the general public. At some point and time they’re going to have to coexist with everyone else, they might as well learn to do it early in life.
I’m willing to bet the success rate in life is higher from academies in Mississippi vs public schools
 

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By the way, NWR peaked in 1995, just like most things in Rankin County and around the Reservoir. Been downhill ever since, most parents want to be at Brandon or Pisgah. Brandon has the zoning to keep out apartments (like Madison) and minimizes riff raff, and Pisgah is the new stuff.

NWR and MC are not alike except for being 7A.

All that said, all of Rankin has a danged military level police force so by and large it's still a very safe area. Folks do generally fear the police.

And all THAT said....you now have people fleeing Brandon to go to Pelahatchie. That one has surprised me. Not necessarily school, as they all either go to East Rankin or Hartfield.

NWR is still a good school, I've put three though there, but mine were in AP classes.

Private schools in the Delta and Jxn are necessary. Private schools in areas with good schools certainly take away from public schools. There are many Pinelake kool aid drinkers who are going bankrupt trying to send three kids to Hartfield (I guess the Lord told them to do it?) that certainly hurts NWR (and probably Brandon to an extent) as those would normally be middle class private school kids.

Having great public schools obviously has a huge impact on local community and home values.
I mean I don’t think “hurting” public schools is something they should consider.

It’s their money. Let them spend it how they want.