OT - Carpet Advice

[BonzoGoesToCollege]

Don't know much about carpets, but I do know about calculating area. We received a quote from a one carpet place in the Jackson area who will remain nameless and were quoted 56% overage based on actual square footage. Everything I've read says 10-15% overage is typical. I understand all rooms are different, and seams need to be minimized, but this just seems excessive based on our layout.

Can anybody provide any insight into what is causing the huge overage?

Also, any recommendations on carpet distributors/installers in the Jackson area would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance

 

[Xenomorph]

In my experience it doesn’t always match the drapes.

 

[Leeshouldveflanked]

In my experience it doesn’t always match the drapes.

Short Pile is a lot easier to keep clean than Long Pile.

 

[msugrad2003]

Why don’t you call and independent carpet installer. There are countless business cards at carpet stores (usually). Get their opinion

 

[Mobile Bay]

In my experience it doesn’t always match the drapes.

By time you find out, so you really care?

 

[Uncle Ruckus]

My advice is to not get carpet

 

[Puppychow]

Short Pile is a lot easier to keep clean than Long Pile.

Talkin bout shag baby!

 

[Dawg1979]

My advice is to not get carpet

100% correct. dirty, smelly, and if you have dogs.....

 

[aTotal360]

We are about to put in new carpet upstairs. Costco gave us the best quote.

 

[johnson86-1]

My advice is to not get carpet

Not sure which context you're referring to, but in either case, it has its place. Either way, want it short pile. In houses, you don't want it in high traffic areas but a house that is nothing but wood and tile tends to feel cold and also depending on the size of the room and what's on the walls, accoustics can be bad. The way you fix that is with rugs, in which case you've put down a more expensive floor to cover it up with an expensive rug. You do get the ability to change the rugs out easily without having to do something major like a carpet reinstall.

 

[The Peeper]

He's right you know. The alternatives w/ wood, laminate, and tile are really good now. You can put area rugs over them where you want them. When the rugs need cleaning you call the rug place wherever you are, they come roll them up and take them and put them in a big vat to soak and clean them. They then hang and dry them and bring them back. Much easier and a better job than carpet cleaning.

Or the good ole boy alternative is to hang them over the clothes line, beat w/ a broom, spray w/ a garden sprayer w/ cleaner in it, hose them down, let em dry.

 

[Car Ramrod.sixpack]

We are basically re-flooring our entire house with the exception of the ceramic tile in the kitchen and baths. I have a good buddy that works for a large regional flooring company that is helping me out. He said carpet is finicky when it comes to overrun because the rolls are 12' wide but you can get a roll as long as you want. If you are dealing with a pattern or textured it gets even more complicated. The 10-15% overrun you mention is what they use for hard surface flooring. I installed about 400 sf of LVP myself in our bonus room and a 10% overrun was spot on. I can see if you have a room that is 16'x16' you are looking at a large overrun.

 

[Go Budaw]

He's right you know. The alternatives w/ wood, laminate, and tile are really good now. You can put area rugs over them where you want them. When the rugs need cleaning you call the rug place wherever you are, they come roll them up and take them and put them in a big vat to soak and clean them. They then hang and dry them and bring them back. Much easier and a better job than carpet cleaning.

Or the good ole boy alternative is to hang them over the clothes line, beat w/ a broom, spray w/ a garden sprayer w/ cleaner in it, hose them down, let em dry.

Another thing about rugs, don’t get a silk rug. I was young and stupid and looking for something for my living room in my first house. Bought an 8 x 10 silk rug from one of the nicer stores in town (didn’t even know anything about the material, just liked the way it looked), spent maybe $400-$500 on it. Had a dog throw up on it and had to get it cleaned, and found out they can’t do the normal soak / shampoo that they do on a standard rug, and the specialized cleaning bill was almost as much as the rug cost brand new.

 

[Leeshouldveflanked]

LVP is the way to go if you have pets, kids etc.... carpet is just nasty....Hardwood can be tricky as well down south due to humidity

 

[PBRME]

100% correct. dirty, smelly, and if you have dogs.....

Liked carpet until I got my first indoor dog. Bought a roomba to try to keep up with the dog hair. The roomba showed me on a daily basis just how nasty carpet is.

 

[dorndawg]

Liked carpet until I got my first indoor dog. Bought a roomba to try to keep up with the dog hair. The roomba showed me on a daily basis just how nasty carpet is.

Carpet is so disgusting. It forever baffles me why anyone would ever want it.

 

[dawgman42]

Carpet is so disgusting. It forever baffles me why anyone would ever want it.

We understand your orientation, dorn.

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[dorndawg]

We understand your orientation, dorn.

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[maroonmadman]

In my experience it doesn’t always match the drapes.

That's so 1980's ish. Bare wood floors and area rugs are all the rage.

 

[FISHDAWG]

Don't know much about carpets, but I do know about calculating area. We received a quote from a one carpet place in the Jackson area who will remain nameless and were quoted 56% overage based on actual square footage. Everything I've read says 10-15% overage is typical. I understand all rooms are different, and seams need to be minimized, but this just seems excessive based on our layout.

Can anybody provide any insight into what is causing the huge overage?

Also, any recommendations on carpet distributors/installers in the Jackson area would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance

Assuming there is no large pattern-match that is an incredibly high percentage of waste.... I'll give an example of a 12' x 14' room.
1st run would be 12' x 14' long run (carpet is 12' wide usually but 15' can be ordered) .... that would leave an uncovered area of 2' x14' left to cover .... cut 2' wide pieces from the roll of carpet and turn the grain to match the longer run so we need 7 pieces to fill in. 7-2' pieces added to the over all roll would equal a cut of carpet that is 12' wide x 18' ...... the summary is as follows:
Room = 12'x14'=168 sq ft = 18.66 yards for minimum coverage
Carpet roll / cut = 12'x18'=216 sq ft =24 yards of carpet purchased
and that gives us a waste factor of 5-2'x2' pieces unused or wasted = 20 sq ft = 2.2 yards = 22% wasted
The size and shape of the rooms can make a really big difference in determining the waste factor but 56% sounds incredibly high

 

[horshack.sixpack]

I can run my robot vac every time it recharges and it'll find something, and I'm hardwood. The dog is a prolific hair production machine.

 

[dorndawg]

I can run my robot vac every time it recharges and it'll find something, and I'm hardwood. The dog is a prolific hair production machine.

We've got 3 - and 1.5 of them are Labradors. so, SAME.

 

[Drebin]

In my experience it doesn’t always match the drapes.

Small quibbles, however.

 

[Dawgbite]

My wife has sold carpet and flooring both residential and commercial for over 20 years. We don't have a piece of carpet left in our house. Take it for what it's worth.

 

[Leeshouldveflanked]

We understand your orientation, dorn.

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Not that anything is wrong with that...dorn.

 

[Dawgcap]

Assuming there is no large pattern-match that is an incredibly high percentage of waste.... I'll give an example of a 12' x 14' room.
1st run would be 12' x 14' long run (carpet is 12' wide usually but 15' can be ordered) .... that would leave an uncovered area of 2' x14' left to cover .... cut 2' wide pieces from the roll of carpet and turn the grain to match the longer run so we need 7 pieces to fill in. 7-2' pieces added to the over all roll would equal a cut of carpet that is 12' wide x 18' ...... the summary is as follows:
Room = 12'x14'=168 sq ft = 18.66 yards for minimum coverage
Carpet roll / cut = 12'x18'=216 sq ft =24 yards of carpet purchased
and that gives us a waste factor of 5-2'x2' pieces unused or wasted = 20 sq ft = 2.2 yards = 22% wasted
The size and shape of the rooms can make a really big difference in determining the waste factor but 56% sounds incredibly high

You do realize your example is for a 12x14 room. You buy a 12x 14’3” piece for trimming and tuck. Absolutely minimal waste and 0 seams. If there is a seam and cross seams if it were wider than 12 you will have a bit more waste but the grain has to run in the same direction or it is shaded.

 

[Barkman Turner Overdrive]

We understand your orientation, dorn.

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[Dawgcap]

You do realize your example is for a 12x14 room. You buy a 12x 14’3” piece for trimming and tuck. Absolutely minimal waste and 0 seams. If there is a seam and cross seams if it were wider than 12 you will have a bit more waste but the grain has to run in the same direction or it is shaded.

If you meant a 14x14 you would get a 12x14 and a 5’ piece definitely more wast but you never want more than 2 cross seams and a long seam in a room if possible. So the actual room requir basically 22 yards but in a 1 room situation you would need 27 yards. As you add room you use other rooms to help limit cross seams and waste. No way in a house OP should have near that waste. I did figuring for year on this.

 

[Dawgcap]

Don't know much about carpets, but I do know about calculating area. We received a quote from a one carpet place in the Jackson area who will remain nameless and were quoted 56% overage based on actual square footage. Everything I've read says 10-15% overage is typical. I understand all rooms are different, and seams need to be minimized, but this just seems excessive based on our layout.

Can anybody provide any insight into what is causing the huge overage?

Also, any recommendations on carpet distributors/installers in the Jackson area would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance

If you have sizes send them to me be glad to help. Only thing is if all rooms are connected or if there are breaks between some room like ceramic, wood upstairs and downstairs. Carpert should run the same way or the grain will show up in a major shading issue but again no way there should be that much waste unless you have a carpet with one helluva big pattern match