OT: Coming to a beach near you in NJ and NY

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newell138

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Orsted will be bankrupt pretty soon. This is another reason for Trenton's delay. Why push an unpopular project that likely can't be completed as promised? Even if it had the required political will behind it, it will be a massive boondoggle (NJ's Big Dig). Lose-lose situation for those in Trenton that want to keep their state positions.

exactly. Its Xanadu of the sea.
 

RUDead

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Orsted CEO interview today - New Jersey not investible unless made-in-USA components quotas relaxed.

"We are still upholding a real option to walk away."

Source: Bloomberg

Watch Murphy drop that quota.
 

RU4Real

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At what point did I say it was endangering whales? It will impact everyone's life because electric bills would skyrocket and my other concern is the long term impact that no one knows about.

It's doubtful that electric bills would "skyrocket".

Electricity, as viewed from the perspective of the grid, is a commodity - not unlike crude oil. Some sources are more expensive than others, but in the aggregate things tend to even out.
 

newell138

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It's doubtful that electric bills would "skyrocket".

Electricity, as viewed from the perspective of the grid, is a commodity - not unlike crude oil. Some sources are more expensive than others, but in the aggregate things tend to even out.

who do you think is going to pay for the billions upon billions of dollars needed to build and maintain something like that? The maintenance alone would be insane
 

RU4Real

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who do you think is going to pay for the billions upon billions of dollars needed to build and maintain something like that? The maintenance alone would be insane

You're really overplaying it. The maintenance wouldn't be "insane" - there's a significant body of knowledge that speaks to offshore wind platform maintenance costs in temperate littoral waters.

You seem a little hysterical about this. Not sure why.
 

newell138

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You're really overplaying it. The maintenance wouldn't be "insane" - there's a significant body of knowledge that speaks to offshore wind platform maintenance costs in temperate littoral waters.

You seem a little hysterical about this. Not sure why.

Hysterical lol? hardly. I'm good, especially now that it looks like the whole project is falling apart just like Orsted
 

RU4Real

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Hysterical lol? hardly. I'm good, especially now that it looks like the whole project is falling apart just like Orsted

Perhaps some enterprising U.S.-based firm will take over the project and use Chinese components to lower the cost.
 

Knight Shift

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Where was your phone made?
Mine was made in Camden, NJ by Campbell Soup.

 

fsg2_rivals

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Yeah, the whole
Would you buy a Chinese made car? Steel? Clothing?

Clothing?

The "China makes crap" argument is overplayed and outdated. Not everything from China is automatically junk, especially if it's made to the spec of a respected company.

Most bicycles around the globe come from Taiwan/China, for instance.

Don't know or care how that relates to windmill parts.
 

newell138

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Yeah, the whole

Clothing?

The "China makes crap" argument is overplayed and outdated. Not everything from China is automatically junk, especially if it's made to the spec of a respected company.

Most bicycles around the globe come from Taiwan/China, for instance.

Don't know or care how that relates to windmill parts.
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Cool
 

fsg2_rivals

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Yeah, the whole

Clothing?

The "China makes crap" argument is overplayed and outdated. Not everything from China is automatically junk, especially if it's made to the spec of a respected company.

Most bicycles around the globe come from Taiwan/China, for instance.

Don't know or care how that relates to windmill parts.
Yeah, I'm positive you're using and loving Chinese-made products on a daily basis.

I'm equally positive you have no idea whatsoever if Chinese windmill components are any better or worse than those built somewhere else. Or where else they might be built.
 

newell138

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Yeah, I'm positive you're using and loving Chinese-made products on a daily basis.

I'm equally positive you have no idea whatsoever if Chinese windmill components are any better or worse than those built somewhere else. Or where else they might be built.

Who cares? And no, i don't, but it doesn't matter at this point because it doesn't look like windmills from anywhere are going up
 

Joey Bags

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This thread inspired me to buy a pack of windmills to christen my new grill that arrives tomorrow
 

RUBlackout7

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Who cares? And no, i don't, but it doesn't matter at this point because it doesn't look like windmills from anywhere are going up
Windmills will continue going up all over the world and there is nothing you can do to stop it.
 

m1ipabrams

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Even idiotic Germany has seen the uselessness of wind farms and is getting rid of some and going coal.

Wind is so 2010.
It is a true statement that Germany is taking down 8 Wind turbines built in 2001 that lie at the edge of an existing open-pit coal mine so that they can expand that coal mine.

However that statement ignores the rest of the story:

"Germany installed 128 new wind turbines with a total capacity of 0.6 gigawatts (GW) between January and April 2023, an increase in the growth rate of 46 percent compared to the same period in the year before, according to figures by the Fachagentur Windenergie. Licenses for new installations increased even faster, as the greenlighting of 324 new turbines with a total capacity of 1.7 GW meant an increase of 61 percent compared to 2022. About 28,500 turbines were in operation across Germany as of March 2023, with a combined capacity of 58.5 GW. Nearly 8,000 of these installations have been in operation for more than 20 years, meaning they no longer receive a guaranteed remuneration through Germany’s Renewable Energy Act (EEG)."​

 

Knight Shift

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It is a true statement that Germany is taking down 8 Wind turbines built in 2001 that lie at the edge of an existing open-pit coal mine so that they can expand that coal mine.

However that statement ignores the rest of the story:

"Germany installed 128 new wind turbines with a total capacity of 0.6 gigawatts (GW) between January and April 2023, an increase in the growth rate of 46 percent compared to the same period in the year before, according to figures by the Fachagentur Windenergie. Licenses for new installations increased even faster, as the greenlighting of 324 new turbines with a total capacity of 1.7 GW meant an increase of 61 percent compared to 2022. About 28,500 turbines were in operation across Germany as of March 2023, with a combined capacity of 58.5 GW. Nearly 8,000 of these installations have been in operation for more than 20 years, meaning they no longer receive a guaranteed remuneration through Germany’s Renewable Energy Act (EEG)."​

Germany increased its coal import by 8% last year,

Russia remained the top supplier of coal, despite sanctions imposed by the European Union in August banning the import of Russian coal to bloc members.

In second place came the US, with 9.4 million tons, a 32% increase from the year before.

😂 🤭

 

m1ipabrams

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Germany increased its coal import by 8% last year,

Russia remained the top supplier of coal, despite sanctions imposed by the European Union in August banning the import of Russian coal to bloc members.

In second place came the US, with 9.4 million tons, a 32% increase from the year before.

😂 🤭

Yeah, but that has nothing to do with wind power(which is growing rapidly), rather the short sighted decision to shut down nuke plants prematurely while dealing with the impact of reduced natural gas from Russia
 
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