OT: Coming to a beach near you in NJ and NY
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In Today's Coast Star (Local paper for South Monmouth beach towns) (just a few snippets from a very long article, but excellent points).
Clean Ocean Action is an Environmental group that does excellent work:
BRIELLE — Clean Ocean Action [COA]
is opposing the federal government’s
leasing of nearly 1 million acres of federal
waters o New Jersey for private
wind farms that could see nearly 600
turbines installed in the first round, and
many hundreds more in a second round.
Because wind energy is renewable,
Ms. Zipf said, COA would not oppose a
small, pilot project of about 50 turbines
developed in a responsible way and
then evaluated for its eect on the marine
ecosystem, before a larger project
is attempted.
But the massive-scale development
already approved o the Jersey Shore
is “reckless privatization” that is “too
much, too fast,” Ms. Zipf said.
The o-shore windmill plan is being
“green-washed” without transparency
or adequate study of possible harmful
impacts on the ocean, she added.
“This is a land grab for big
industry. It’s just absolute
greed. It is so sad because the
ocean has given us so much,
and we are just industrializing
it,” Ms. Zipf said.
“There is no science. There
are a few studies in Europe,
studies that are funded by
the industry. You can’t find
a study that is not funded by
Ørsted or one of the other
wind energy companies."
Clean Ocean Action is an Environmental group that does excellent work:
BRIELLE — Clean Ocean Action [COA]
is opposing the federal government’s
leasing of nearly 1 million acres of federal
waters o New Jersey for private
wind farms that could see nearly 600
turbines installed in the first round, and
many hundreds more in a second round.
Because wind energy is renewable,
Ms. Zipf said, COA would not oppose a
small, pilot project of about 50 turbines
developed in a responsible way and
then evaluated for its eect on the marine
ecosystem, before a larger project
is attempted.
But the massive-scale development
already approved o the Jersey Shore
is “reckless privatization” that is “too
much, too fast,” Ms. Zipf said.
The o-shore windmill plan is being
“green-washed” without transparency
or adequate study of possible harmful
impacts on the ocean, she added.
“This is a land grab for big
industry. It’s just absolute
greed. It is so sad because the
ocean has given us so much,
and we are just industrializing
it,” Ms. Zipf said.
“There is no science. There
are a few studies in Europe,
studies that are funded by
the industry. You can’t find
a study that is not funded by
Ørsted or one of the other
wind energy companies."
People are really complaining about a VIEW being affected by far off windmills? Omg how WILL people get through the night??? People living near coal plants have had to live with filthy pollution and respiratory problems for decades. Smh
It is never a bad idea to start on a smaller scale
The more important issue is the HOME RULE one. You may want wind farms and solar.. but towns should be able to decide for themselves. This is an autocratic power grab that no one should be for.
You just know that Murphy and friends are making big $$$ off these sales in one way or another. I recall Christie was trying to sell our highways to private companies to provide automatic tolls by miles driven.. roads the taxpayers paid for across generations. Municipalities have sold off their water departments and garbage collection.. end result is higher prices and no public accountability... and, again, the infrastructure for such services had been paid for by taxpayers for generations.
While privatization, in general, can have advantages.. beware of politicians finding ways to sell off the assets owned by generations of taxpayers for their own private benefit.
What is Murphy doing with the money from these leases?
You just know that Murphy and friends are making big $$$ off these sales in one way or another. I recall Christie was trying to sell our highways to private companies to provide automatic tolls by miles driven.. roads the taxpayers paid for across generations. Municipalities have sold off their water departments and garbage collection.. end result is higher prices and no public accountability... and, again, the infrastructure for such services had been paid for by taxpayers for generations.
While privatization, in general, can have advantages.. beware of politicians finding ways to sell off the assets owned by generations of taxpayers for their own private benefit.
What is Murphy doing with the money from these leases?
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That was one of my issues in my original post, although not clearly stated. I'm all for green energy, but to grant huge leases without smaller scale studies to determine impacts on wildlife, etc is foolish. Such projects usually involve private and politically connected entities getting rich while there being little to no benefit to the average state resident. American Dream/Xanadu is a good example, and there are many other examples.
Well for one you would put Electric companies out of business. They are doing everything they can to slow down Solar in Red states.
Why are there not solar panels on every school and parking lot in NJ is a mystery
But But But privatization and business community will lower costs to taxpayers
So how much would it cost to install the storage capacity to get through the night and cloudy days (and snow covered days in the northern half of the country)? And what does manufacturing and other businesses do for power? Aren't we looking to on-shore, or will we rely on China and their coal plants?
In fact, does the storage technology even exist currently?
Sometimes town rule, sometimes states rules and sometimes the Federal rules. In this case, the state rules.
Go WIND POWER
Republicans for Putin
Comparing children being killed to wind mills
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Why hasn’t anyone contacted Murphy if the answer is so obvious?
I bet the $4 billion is going directly into Murphy pockets.
I bet the $4 billion is going directly into Murphy pockets.
Still falling for this stuff I see. Lol
Isn’t this the guy who was crying during his speech?
Oh the CEsspool has had efforts to reach out to Holloway.
You can imagine given the players that like everything else for them, it was an epic failure.
How couldn’t all those unfortunate dummies not have been blessed with your obvious superior intelligence???
Tough guy and faux alpha male is apparently a devoted bird watcher. Who woulda guessed??
Now this I'm all for. You want solar or wind power, fine. But use the areas you've already fvcked up. Don't find Green space areas to **** up in the name of Green energy. It's counterproductive. Or in this case the ocean.
You may have seen from my roof my neighbor 2 doors down has a small solar "farm" in his backyard. I object to the phrase "solar farm." Seems very unnatural and misplaced.
Stick to your Keansburg beaches kid, the adults are having a discussion. If you have nothing to add better you don't embarrass yourself
There should be. We just covered the roof of the OC recreation building with them.
15 miles out is in international waters.
New Jersey doesn't get a dime. The leases were auctioned by the Department of the Interior. The money all goes to DC.
Are you under the impression that costs wouldn't have gone up without solar and wind?
Well Google and gambling say otherwise lol. I'm no expert. But no way 200. It's in the teens but who the hell knows anymore. Russian borders extend wherever they say.
I think I'm thinking of the Economic Exclusion Zone. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exclusive_economic_zone
Absolutely no one is shocked you were horrifically wrong.
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