OT: Delucia's Brick Oven Pizza in Raritan
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could be?
So we do not know?
How about grandfathering every current establishment with a coal/wood oven. Allow them to replace with modern when/if needed.. or PAY THEM to do it if it is so important. This seems to be more about wanting them gone because some element of the party wants them gone for some imaginary reason.. to feel like they did something to "save the planet".
This could just be another angle to coming after gas stoves too. Cut carbon emissions by 75%? Sounds like the only answer will be electric...
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That’s pretty bold stuff coming from a kid who grew up in the Bronx
Ever walk near a NYC bus as it pulls away? Likely spitting out more pollution than a pizza oven
partly true....new mandates for adults would not have been objectionable in the past, and new mandates for children would be objectionable now. One corrosive, divisive president launched a new civil war around this and other issues to form a large but uninformed and uneducated base.
It's generally not about climate, it's primarily about health impacts, as per plenty of comments by neighbors (especially above pizzerias) complaining about air quality. Nobody wants these pizzerias gone - that's just nutty talk, but given the costs aren't trivial, I could see partially subsidizing this for the ~100 pizza joints that supposedly are being talked about.
I spent 10 years in Chicago looking for good pizza there is none!
30 years in Cali same thing then, Honestly all of the sudden 3 pizza joints in the last year all pretty good
Deninos from Staten Island opened a place in thousands oaks California.
They have been able to pull it off good pizza.
Second hand smoke in NYC from all types of smokers likely a bigger problem than a few pizza ovens venting through roofs of buildings. But hey, allowing people to smoke marijuana in public is cool and it gets votes, so just let it go and harass businesses that attract people to NYC. Great strategy and typical of city politicians catering to the lowest common denominator.
NYC acknowledges that "even brief exposure" to second hand smoke is harmful.
The JAMA study showed that when rats are exposed to secondhand marijuana smoke for 60 seconds, they experience dilation of the blood vessels and decreased blood pressure for 90 minutes or more. That’s longer than the effects of secondhand tobacco smoke. Because tobacco and cannabis smoke have similar makeups, it is likely that secondhand marijuana smoke could produce the same harmful cardiovascular health effects as cigarette smoke
Particulate matter in secondhand marijuana smoke includes:
- Ammonia
- Cadmium
- Chromium
- Hydrogen cyanide
- Lead
- Mercury
- Nickel
I agree that secondhand smoke from either cigarettes or pot is a significant health issue. However, as far as I know, smoking anything, indoors, is not allowed in NYC or most other places and if we learned anything from the pandemic, indoor 2nd hand smoke is a far greater risk than outdoor secondhand smoke. Outdoor air movement is usually sufficient enough to prevent people from getting significant doses of anything from viruses to secondhand smoke, especially if the smoke is from a lone smoker. However, if it's an outdoor bar/concert with most smoking, that's probably not much different from indoors, which is why NYC and other locations have limited outdoor smoking too.
True, but enforcement is extremely lax. I noticed that for the outdoor areas, the pathways in Time Square are "supposed to" be smoke free. We have had different experiences, but I will go out of my way to avoid that area in the future when my travels take me to NYC. It reeked.
I can’t imagine spending so much money on an education to always be wrong
I honestly could not care less what happens to New York City at this point. Feel bad for the small business owners that are constantly being pushed around. They need to gtfo of there.
People used to say the same thing about Florida and we found 2 incredible places this past winter down there. One in Key West and one is Siesta Key/Sarasota. Some of the best pizza I have ever had at both places.
For anyone going I highly recommend
Clemente's Wood-Fired Trolley Pizzeria in Key West
Roman SQ artisan Pizza in Sarasota, has a 5 star rating on google, something I have never seen before for any business with over 200 ratings. I was talking to the owner and he said most places let their dough rise for 24 hours at most, his rises for 96 hours. Had to be the lightest, fluffiest sicilian pie in the world, but still had that crispy crust
Went to a bagel shop in Fla years ago that the guy trucked in water from NY. Really good (for Florida).
I find most of the places with good (again, for Florida) pizza or Italian food are owned by folks from NY/NJ.
1st time I found decent Italian near my grandparents in Melbourne, I commented how good it was and the owner came over. They were from Hoboken.
Are you saying locking people up inside for 2 years was a bad for their health? Who'd a thunk it?
Glad we have these brilliant people looking out for our us. Why don't they try to figure out why a good percentage of the poor people are obese and diabetic? Think that might be a bigger issue than wood fired pizza?
I would bet some influential ******* moved close to one of these establishments, realized it smells like smoke when you live there and set this nonsense in motion.
Mayor McCheese has addressed that. He is making certain school days meat free. Cause, you know, the science says protein causes obesity. But there will be plenty of ultra processed foods like pizza, boxes cereals laden with sugar and seed oils to keep the kids thin. The food compass the government pays for and promulgated by Tufts University ranks Lucky Charms higher on the nutrition scale than beef. There will also be plenty of soda, sugary juices and that crap Michelle Obama is peddling as a healthy alternative. Because she's a nutrition expert and needs more millions of dollars.
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You can visit literally any covid thread you posted in. You still wiping down your groceries and packages?
And now they're going to hit the people they want to bring back to the half empty offices with a $9-18 (to be decided) congestion pricing charge if you drive in. And of course the subways are as safe as they've been in decades [/sarcasm]. Hope they didn't have a long term lease.
My wife is from Montreal. They banned the use of wood fireplaces in homes years ago. This is where we are headed.
Looking for good pizza outside of this region is like looking for good barbecue, gumbo, poke, etc. around here. Far and few between.
Currently available in FL are bagels that are boiled in NY, then flash frozen and shipped to FL and kept in a freezer. Customers order them online for next day pickup. That morning the bagels are locally baked in an oven and picked up hot and fresh. It works very well.
Some people are making noise about the nonsense promulgated by our governmental authorities on food. Hopefully that noise will be heard, and people will learn. But with the grip that Big Food and Big Pharma has on politicians of all parties, it will be difficult.
It's OK, Big Pharma will save us, because obesity is a "disease" now, according to some medical experts. Remember, for Pharma, every condition is a nail, and every nail gets treated with a pharma hammer. Adjust diet, and none of this nonsense would be needed. Don't follow the bad advice provided by the government.
This was a thread about pizza once upon a time...
Thanks for revealing that you have zero understanding of science and clearly didn't read my posts on the pandemic. I actually predicted almost every major element of the pandemic correctly after mid-Feb 2020 and shared countless peer-reviewed scientific articles explaining just about everything related to the virus and the pandemic and could share all of those posts with you by IM if you like, but can't here, as we've all been asked to not make COVID posts. I wish that were not the case, but I don't make the rules.
You mean like screeching about taxes while supporting the SALT cap like you are in the other thread, because the party you worship demands you do it?
For sure. Pizza is totally "illegal"
In order to make sure pizza is legal, we need to have people who want to ban books, AP class, marijuana, birth control and women controlling their own body in office to lend us a hand
You don't have to, you could just look in the mirror and see the money flushed at a terrible private school that now goes to answering SOS calls from a landscaper trying to politicize a football message board.
Please. Same broken records on this thread who derail others as well.
As much as almost everyone loves pizza, it is a food macro disaster. High in processed carbs (flour), most tomato sauces have tons of sugar, and mozzarrella cheese is high in saturated fat. Protein macros are nearly non-existent, and if you add the usual "meats", most are processed and full of nitrates. Probably worse than smoking cigarettes for some people.
All you have to do is see the first bluegrass huffer who mowed into the thread and then called for backup from the CEsspool when he got destroyed (again).
The rules don't apply to him, you have to remember.
Who wants to go back to the office? Boomers?
Oh...and crime is lower than it was under that the disbarred drag queen.
But a bunch of people on message board have twaddle of the mouth because their propaganda networks have scared them from their once a decade venture into the city to see the Rockettes and eat at the Times Square Olive Garden.
I understand what their concerns are and how it relates to the big picture in their view (I don't necessarily agree with them all the time), but the constant injection of that argument into unrelated threads is tiresome. They know better, yet it continues and it is allowed. I mean, how do you manage to F-up a thread about pizza?
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