OT: Does Beyoncé's new song Texas Hold 'Em fall into the country genre?

Is her new song truly a country song?


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DJ Spanky

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I heard this yesterday and am curious how everyone views it. I'm not a country music aficionado so am withholding comment.
 

DJ Spanky

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A vid link would really help get this survey party started.

Sorry, kind of limited at work with what I can pull up. I'll post a link this evening unless someone else does it first.
 

ashokan

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A lot of Country fans consider the genre to have been mutated by pop.
I doubt Beyonce is in the Loretta lynn/Johnny Cash bin
Probably more like Lil Nas - Old Town Road.
At least she was born in Texas
 

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Country splintered a while ago, so most of what is popularized as Country these days is just a subset of Pop, and artists more authentic to traditional country are found under genres like Americana.
 

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This is better country rap song than Texas Hold Em. I don’t think Beyonce song is anything special.
 

RUGuitarMan1

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It certainly has a country/soul feel to it . I like the song, she is a good singer. I don’t know why we are so anxious to label music these days. There is plenty of country/pop/rock type stuff out there. Why do they label Chris Stapleton as “country”? , To me , he is more of an R&B / Soul singer. Is it because he wears a western type hat? Silly stuff.
 

MADHAT1

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Conway Twitty moved from rock & roll to country ( or jumped from one to the other in the 1950s)
I remember listing to rock and roll songs in the 1950s that were sung by artists considered country now.

Kid Rock made the move from rap to country

Aaron Lewis went from being in an alternative metal group to country

Kenny Rodgers didn't start out as a country singer and was involved in the
rock and psychedelic sound before turning country and being one of it's biggest stars

Aerosmith will never be confused with country , but it's front-man , Steve Tyler
put out country albums on his own.

Beyonce is just adding to her audience and by expanding her music appeal.
Nothing to get upset about, she isn't the first
 
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I heard this yesterday and am curious how everyone views it. I'm not a country music aficionado so am withholding comment.
Who is Beyonce, and where do I find her music? Oh, I see something above. Otherwise, would not have known or cared.
 
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It certainly has a country/soul feel to it . I like the song, she is a good singer. I don’t know why we are so anxious to label music these days. There is plenty of country/pop/rock type stuff out there. Why do they label Chris Stapleton as “country”? , To me , he is more of an R&B / Soul singer. Is it because he wears a western type hat? Silly stuff.
I value your opinion.
I've said before that I hate labels, but I'm going to violate my hatred of labels and call it something.
Don't hear the "Soul" only gospel is a subgenre or closely related genre to soul.

Seems the artist are blurring a lot of lines and making music that may defy categories, and that is kind of cool. While I am not a country fan, I like Chris Stapleton's stuff that I have heard.

There is a genre of music I like called Psychobilly, which is super fast rockabilly.

I would call this Beyonce track Gospelbilly-- a blend of gospel and rockabilly. Of course people will disagree and opinions will vary, because this track defies categorization.
 
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WhiteBus

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She is honoring past black country singers and music creators. This song is just the beginning of something bigger (album?).
 

ashokan

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She is honoring past black country singers and music creators. This song is just the beginning of something bigger (album?).

That's what Rhiannon Giddens has been doing legitimately at a high level.
Beyonce is just fronting
 

WhiteBus

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That's what Rhiannon Giddens has been doing legitimately at a high level.
Beyonce is just fronting
Maybe true but I've never heard of her. I'm guessing a lot of people are in the same boat. Today former black country music folks just got introduced to the world thanks to a preview of a future song and every media source is covering it. Good for both of them.
 

RUGuitarMan1

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That's what Rhiannon Giddens has been doing legitimately at a high level.
Beyonce is just fronting
Rhiannon Giddens is an “Americana” musician of high caliber. She does a mix of blues and bluegrass which are much more related than many think. Beyoncé is a pop singer who decided to do this country tinged song. I don’t know what is “fronting” about it specifically. It can be argued that all popular music is “fronting”, no one is reinventing the musical wheel here.
 

ashokan

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Maybe true but I've never heard of her. I'm guessing a lot of people are in the same boat. Today former black country music folks just got introduced to the world thanks to a preview of a future song and every media source is covering it. Good for both of them.

 
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If we go by R & R HOF standards this song immediately puts her in the Country Music HOF and she'll be become a member of the Grand Ole Opry.
 

ashokan

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Rhiannon Giddens is an “Americana” musician of high caliber. She does a mix of blues and bluegrass which are much more related than many think. Beyoncé is a pop singer who decided to do this country tinged song. I don’t know what is “fronting” about it specifically. It can be argued that all popular music is “fronting”, no one is reinventing the musical wheel here.

I don't like Country music and despise a lot of it.
I could listen to Beyonce sooner because she's not hee-haw.
While some say "its just a song" its coming with a toxic load.

"Knowles-Carter’s presence in country music is signaling the birth of a new era, a renaissance if you will. It is time for the institutional oppressive regimes of country music to be removed, and for those who have continued to carry on the legacy of country’s music heart and soul to be seated at the table."

Ah so of course country music is just somehow black music pilfered by blanco bumpkins, and Beyonce with her blonde hair and white cowboy hat is riding on on heavy bass and bit*tch lyrics to set culture straight. When the song doesn't win an award we can hear the ugly, talent free Jay Jay blame the world again

Southern accents derive from Elizabethan England and Scotland so maybe they should get into the debate and reclaim something

https://time.com/6694806/beyonce-country-music/
 
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ashokan

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I'm not denying her talent. But nobody knows her.
Lots of people know her - she won a MacArthur Fellowship (genius award).
I'm 100% positive Beyonce knows her despite jumping her in line.
Beyonce cant carry Rhiannon Giddens banjo
 
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WhiteBus

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Lots of people know her - she won a MacArthur Fellowship (genius award).
I'm 100% positive Beyonce knows her despite jumping her in line.
Beyonce cant carry Rhiannon Giddens banjo
Was she a lead on every national news station?? Just stop your nonsense.
 

T2Kplus20

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I heard this yesterday and am curious how everyone views it. I'm not a country music aficionado so am withholding comment.
Not sure, haven't listened to a Beyonce song since...........................................forever.
 

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I don't like Country music and despise a lot of it.
I could listen to Beyonce sooner because she's not hee-haw.
While some say "its just a song" its coming with a toxic load.

"Knowles-Carter’s presence in country music is signaling the birth of a new era, a renaissance if you will. It is time for the institutional oppressive regimes of country music to be removed, and for those who have continued to carry on the legacy of country’s music heart and soul to be seated at the table."

Ah so of course country music is just somehow black music pilfered by blanco bumpkins, and Beyonce with her blonde hair and white cowboy hat is riding on on heavy bass and bit*tch lyrics to set culture straight. When the song doesn't win an award we can hear the ugly, talent free Jay Jay blame the world again

Southern accents derive from Elizabethan England and Scotland so maybe they should get into the debate and reclaim something

https://time.com/6694806/beyonce-country-music/
The focus on race regarding this song is predictable and emblematic of the times we live in. I was fortunate, having grown up listening to the “Golden Era” of rock music from the mid 60’s through early 70’s. The beauty of that era is that it was a veritable melting pot of sound. A cacophony of “cross pollenization” musical sound and style. The fact is from the beginning, both Northern European ( Scotch/ Irish folk) music combined with African American Blues/Gospel music to form what would become “Country” and “Rhythm and Blues” . Jimmie Rodgers “The Father of Country Music”. was influenced by early Blues singers. Hank Williams Sr was also influenced by Blues singers/musicians. McKinley Morganfield aka “Muddy Waters” the great Blues singer was influenced by Jimmie Rodgers, the “Country” singer. Music is in the air and rises above man made barriers.
 

IL Lusciato

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It's a country song.

I'm not a big Beyonce fan, or country fan.

But not a big fan of this song. Don't hate it either.
 
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ashokan

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I was sure Yonce knew about Giddens.
Giddens played the banjo part a couple of years ago and was surprised to hear it come out

"What she's saying: In a Facebook post, Giddens said the timing of the Sunday release took her by surprise — she secretly worked with Beyoncé on the song two years ago. "My only hope is that it might lead a few more intrepid folks into the exciting history of the banjo,"

 
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Rutgers Chris

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I was sure Yonce knew about Giddens.
Giddens played the banjo part a couple of years ago and was surprised to hear it come out

"What she's saying: In a Facebook post, Giddens said the timing of the Sunday release took her by surprise — she secretly worked with Beyoncé on the song two years ago. "My only hope is that it might lead a few more intrepid folks into the exciting history of the banjo,"

I’m sure many more people will now know who she is thanks to Beyoncé. Much like Tracy Chapman showed back up on the top of the charts after she played with Luke Combs at the Grammys. I’d say it’s a great thing for them.