Started to do a little looking into hydrogen vehicles given the 15-17 k in incentives available. Also, free fuel for 6 years up to 15k. Of course no ability to fuel given no infra but northeast states creating 8 billion hydro infra plan.
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Are you in California? Because it seems that is the only state in the US with a network of refueling stations?
Nope, CT. Cali is but seems there are plans to use infra dollars to build out in northeast states. Not definitive and will take years.
Did this forum miss this announcement, or just me?
All EV Owners Will Soon Have Access To Tesla Supercharger Network
I think someone posted that here at some point recently, but perhaps I just saw it elsewhere. But I have seen that news.
Of course, opening their network to other EVs isn’t the same thing as establishing an industry wide standard. And some aspects of EV charging might be adopted as standards while other aspects may be left non standardized.
It seems to be a step in the direction of adopting the Tesla standard, or at least making it cross-compatible:
"The move should generate additional revenues for the EV company. But it also will give Tesla access to some of the $5 billion pool set up for a nationwide EV charging infrastructure approved by Congress last year."
I'm not bothering to look it up, but you can fuel up your fuel cell vehicle in Quebec or California.
I've posted this a few times, but even in California, the hydrogen fuel stations are still way too small in number to be viable. The pumps don't always have fuel available and you can't pump if it is too hot out. I'd like to be optimistic about this, but the infrastructure requirements for widespread fuel cell adoption are daunting.
Yea, Butty knows what he is talking about. This is the guy who says roads are racist. How do we know when a politician is lying? When his lips are moving.
Are you able to stick to the topic at hand. It was about the price of EVs and sourcing battery materials.
No dealerships, but this can still happen. Either scenario would piss me off as a customer.
LOL - one of these articles is two years old. In your next search of Tesla problems, please share how Tesla quality control issues are worse than other manufacturers.
For anyone interested - good podcast on clean energy. This episode examines battery technologies.
Still doesn't change the fact that Tesla thought it was ok to ship cars with DIY home depot junk. Just showing the history that their "quality" is nothing but fanboy hype. Two years later and they're still literally painting over their issues.
Just got back from my Boston trip in the ID4. Everything worked like it should on the way there. I recharged at the Auburn Mall using Electrified America. Plenty of bays and they all worked. a lot of cars were charging there. I stayed at the W and they charged it also. I made the rookie mistake not setting the battery charge to 100% instead of 80%. On the way back was a different story. I stopped at North Haven, CT. It was a much smaller charging station. Unfortunately, half of the charging station didn’t work and there were cars waiting. Decided to drive to Stratford CT and much better setup. i did get some range anxiety because I was down to 50 miles if Stratford didn’t work out.
I only charged it for 30 min because it’s free for the 1st three years. It got me from 30% to 80%.
FYI…I just plugged it in the standard wall outlet and it’s telling 50 hrs to go from 30% to 80%.
That seems slow, even for level 1. Level 1 should give you 5 mi of added range per hour.
And FYI...
kW for the charger. Speed of energy flowing into your pack
kWh for battery pack capacity
And for charging curve, how long was the car able to accept 150 kW before tapering off
Motorcyclist on I-15 dies after being rear-ended by Tesla reportedly on autopilot
“According to Tesla's support page, drivers must agree to keep their hands on the steering wheel at all times and "maintain control and responsibility for your car" before the autopilot feature is engaged.”"Autopilot is a hands-on driver assistance system that is intended to be used only with a fully attentive driver," the company stated. "It does not turn a Tesla into a self-driving car nor does it make a car autonomous”
The driver claims he didn’t see the motorcycle. Thing is, how alert is any driver when the car is doing the driving?
While drivers often fail to see motorcycles even in broad daylight (it’s a visual cognition thing - we can be staring right at where the motorcycle is and still fail to see it), systems that require a human to attend closely when not driving are flouting human nature. Might as well call it inattentive mode.
Our vision is largely the result of a cooperation by eyes and brain where the brain turns what is a very low resolution “image” into the recognizable form we “see”. If the brain is encouraged to lose interest because the car is handling everything, then our visual cognition will suffer, even if our eyes are looking up ahead the whole time.
The sooner these so-called self-driving modes are banned, the better. Wait until V2V and V2I are ready and cars can completely take over with no human intervention required.
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Still unknown if autopilot was engaged. Still unknown the actions of the motorcyclist prior to the accident. But, of course the media runs with any accident involving a Tesla.
There have been numerous reports over the years of reckless drivers blaming their actions on ADAS systems. In many of those cases, ADAS was not even engaged, and the driver was scapegoating.
Ultimately, it is the driver's responsibility to watch the road. We won't know anything for sure until the Tesla's event data recorder is examined.
Don't know if he was just throwing the bull around, but a guy I know who has a Tesla says he takes naps while the car is on autopilot and does work on his laptop. That is not autopilot's fault. I agree that the driver is responsible for the vehicle. I would imagine the autopilot system issues some sort of warning to the driver when it is engaged.
I would call BS on that claim.
Autopilot is intended for highway driving. It will not change lanes nor take exits, and yes the system constantly nags you to ensure you're paying attention, so no, you can't nap.
Tesla has 2 additional ADAS options. FSD and FSD Beta which are often confused with Autopilot and one another. Non allow you to nap.
It's not so much about being autopilot's fault as it's about what makes sense to do and what doesn't make sense to do. The entire system is based around people not behaving as people always behave. It is a very bad idea and will eventually be banned by most states. It's not a Tesla problem; it's a technology problem regardless of who implements it. It's fundamentally flawed.
Do you feel the same way about backup cameras? I see plenty of people who don't check behind their vehicle before they back up or turn around and look in both side view mirrors before and while they are backing up. The backup cameras are not infallible. And neither are the drivers for that matter.
Auto pilot is really no different than cruise control. My Altima had the same system- assisted with staying in lane, slow down/speed up based on car in front of you, etc. It does not drive the car for you. Frankly I've found Tesla's warning systems of pedestrians, cars stopping in front of me, etc. to actually be over the top and somewhat annoying at times.
Crazy to think that the hundreds of lbs of molten, liquid alloy in that casting is injected into the mold in milliseconds, then clamped down with 6,000 metric tons of clamping force. Tesla's material science team invented that alloy which does not require a heat treatment afterwards to prevent warping.
70 parts down to 1
3/4 of the body shop robots gone
The Cybertruck underbody will be made with a 9,000 ton press. That press is currently being assembled and tested in the Austin factory.
If you really want to geek out on the Giga Press, Sandy Munro did a tour of the IDRA factory in Italy where it's made: