Record production in Q3 is a headwind? It's not. It's clickbait, which you seem to fall for over and over. Or, you're just trolling. I wish you'd keep a record of the clickbait Tesla articles you post and their % of accuracy. 
Their proprietary charging network is BS. Just tried topping off my vehicle, and was denied. They need to get with the times. WTF, Tesla?
At 30% automotive gross margin, they have a myriad of demand levers they could pull and still have industry leading margins. Have any demand levers been pulled?
Sorry, not talking about those pipelines. The problem is trying to get pipelines from the well head to those pipelines.Pipelines are not a problem either:
This site does a balanced job of presenting pipelines and the need for them:
We have a bunch now, but as the second website points out, the future for them is less certain. Which makes sense as we try to transition to cleaner energy production. Will it mean petroleum products will become more expensive for a while during the transitionary period, probably. But again, this is almost certainly one of those pay now or pay a lot more later things.
At 30% automotive gross margin, they have a myriad of demand levers they could pull and still have industry leading margins. Have any demand levers been pulled?
Yep, and plenty of wiggle room for more if necessary. All signs point to EV growth continuing. Sorry to disappoint, but Tesla is good.
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“‘It was very difficult’: Electric vehicle owner took 15 hours to drive 178 miles”
“The distance between Cheyenne and Casper is 178 miles, which with the speed limit taken into account should take less than 2 1/2 hours.”
“Since that first attempt, O’Hashi has made the trip again but was only able to cut the total travel time down to 11 hours. While waiting to charge, he noted that he often spends extra money shopping or eating, in addition to the charging cost.”
‘It was very difficult’: Electric vehicle owner took 15 hours to drive 178 miles
A Colorado electric vehicle owner called a road trip across the state of Wyoming “very difficult” after it took 15 hours to drive 178 miles.
Should have bought a PHEV.“‘It was very difficult’: Electric vehicle owner took 15 hours to drive 178 miles”
“The distance between Cheyenne and Casper is 178 miles, which with the speed limit taken into account should take less than 2 1/2 hours.”
“Since that first attempt, O’Hashi has made the trip again but was only able to cut the total travel time down to 11 hours. While waiting to charge, he noted that he often spends extra money shopping or eating, in addition to the charging cost.”
‘It was very difficult’: Electric vehicle owner took 15 hours to drive 178 miles
A Colorado electric vehicle owner called a road trip across the state of Wyoming “very difficult” after it took 15 hours to drive 178 miles.
Doesn't have the CCS adapterTheir proprietary charging network is BS. Just tried topping off my vehicle, and was denied. They need to get with the times. WTF, Tesla?
Yikes. Where to start. Yes context matters.
Yikes. Where to start. Yes context matters.
The number of sales you quoted includes hybrids and EVs such as the Wuling Mini EV which sells for $5,000. Wuling sold 395k units in 2021. These vehicles would not be street legal in Europe or the US because of lack of safety features. I'm guessing you haven't seen:
Google it if image doesn't load.
I've got news for you. No one in China is pondering a decision between a Tesla and a Wuling. Wulings are mostly replacing scooters and motorcycles, not $50k+ Teslas. So yeah, context matters.
BYD sells mostly hybrids and they lose money on all of their pure EV sales, as do Nio, Xpeng, and all the other Chinese EV makers. Tesla is the only profitable EV producer in China.
You're blinded by your bizarre hatred for Tesla. If you'd like to place a friendly wager on Tesla's demand falling off a cliff, I'm game. Name it. We can do 2023 production if you want. I already have a bet going with @mdk01 that the Model Y will be the best selling vehicle globally by the end of 2023. My wager is looking pretty good so far.
so, you're trying to narrow your scope so that your boy comes out on top. it's like those stats that they throw up on MNF broadcasts...XXX QB has tied the record for most consecutive completions in a quarter, in the rain, in a game in October, in the Central time zone, by a quarterback from a B12 school. the scope is so narrow that it's virtually meaningless.Yikes. Where to start. Yes context matters.
The number of sales you quoted includes hybrids and EVs such as the Wuling Mini EV which sells for $5,000. Wuling sold 395k units in 2021. These vehicles would not be street legal in Europe or the US because of lack of safety features. I'm guessing you haven't seen:
Google it if image doesn't load.
I've got news for you. No one in China is pondering a decision between a Tesla and a Wuling. Wulings are mostly replacing scooters and motorcycles, not $50k+ Teslas. So yeah, context matters.
BYD sells mostly hybrids and they lose money on all of their pure EV sales, as do Nio, Xpeng, and all the other Chinese EV makers. Tesla is the only profitable EV producer in China.
You're blinded by your bizarre hatred for Tesla. If you'd like to place a friendly wager on Tesla's demand falling off a cliff, I'm game. Name it. We can do 2023 production if you want. I already have a bet going with @mdk01 that the Model Y will be the best selling vehicle globally by the end of 2023. My wager is looking pretty good so far.
That is my vehicle. Still looking for an EV conversion kit. Can't seem to find one.Doesn't have the CCS adapter
First, you had no idea the Wuling Mini was included in those numbers.
BEV stats are BEV stats. now go back to your corner with and lube up over the next tesla article.
Amazing what people will believe. Looks like one, 12 minute stop for charging. Maybe do a little research before posting garbage.“‘It was very difficult’: Electric vehicle owner took 15 hours to drive 178 miles”
“The distance between Cheyenne and Casper is 178 miles, which with the speed limit taken into account should take less than 2 1/2 hours.”
“Since that first attempt, O’Hashi has made the trip again but was only able to cut the total travel time down to 11 hours. While waiting to charge, he noted that he often spends extra money shopping or eating, in addition to the charging cost.”
‘It was very difficult’: Electric vehicle owner took 15 hours to drive 178 miles
A Colorado electric vehicle owner called a road trip across the state of Wyoming “very difficult” after it took 15 hours to drive 178 miles.
Curious. I'm a little surprised Porsche would go there w/an EV. Add downforce that isn't ground-effect based, and one can pretty much kiss efficiency goodbye and plan to recharge a lot more often.
All depends (no pun intended) upon how much Ben & Jerry's one consumed the night before. One single-serving sized pint, probably can make it the 20 minutes. But two pints and it could get a little dicey.
Sounds like you're having range anxiety. They make pills for that.
oh come on, you should know better than most...it's not a real porsche until there's a track oriented version available.Curious. I'm a little surprised Porsche would go there w/an EV. Add downforce that isn't ground-effect based, and one can pretty much kiss efficiency goodbye and plan to recharge a lot more often.
I don't exactly see the value of a high-downforce EV, personally. I know the Rimac Nevera, and so forth , are exactly that (high downforce EVs). But like the Model S Plaid (goofy name, but whatever), I just don't get the allure of sports-car EVs. Such cars are basically hurry up and wait cars - you go 0-60 really fast, maybe a lap or two around a track really fast and then head straight to a charger.
The Rimac and some others are amazing to look at and all. But I'm not the buy it and look at it type. I'm the buy it and drive it like you stole it type. I needs me some gears and exhaust sounds and ****.
But there are plenty of folks who buy high end sports cars just to look at and take, very slowly so as not to risk damage from road debris, to cars and coffee once a month during the summer. So I guess those folks will buy a high-downforce Taycan and/or Rimac's, etc. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
I guess all Porsche vehicles are track-oriented. Especially 911s and Cayman/718s from the lowliest entry level models to the GT models. But I still lack appreciation for high-downforce EVs. Just seems contrary to their whole purpose, which is to use less energy.
Not true. Performance was a big reason Tesla was successful. If you want pure efficiency, buy a Prius
I expressed an opinion, a preference. It’s not a matter of truth. Because I personally have no interest in EV sports cars or sedans (of any kind), acceleration in EVs is meaningless to me, beyond the ability to safely navigate traffic. I’m not trying to speak for others.
You're the guy that said "context matters".
I measured efficiency in terms of easy of use as well as mileage. You don’t need to pre-plan a trip, add charger at home or longer “refuel” time with Prius.
