OT: Electric vehicles

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That’s big news. It’s really a differentiator for Tesla. Think it’s a mistake but great for EVs.
I seriously doubt Tesla is going to retrofit existing Superchargers, however, a dual solution is on the way for new Supercharger installs:

https://electrek.co/2023/01/22/tesla-leaks-magic-dock-ccs-adapter-opening-supercharger-network/

If I were any American legacy automaker, I'd switch from the CCS charger to Tesla's ASAP. I'm sure some deal would have to be worked out, but it would do wonders for US legacy EV sales. Tesla's network is the biggest, most reliable, most convenient, and growing the fastest. Don't know if it's a pride thing on behalf of legacy auto, or if Tesla isn't willing, but with $billions at stake from the govt, I'm sure something could be worked out.
 

Jtung230

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I seriously doubt Tesla is going to retrofit existing Superchargers, however, a dual solution is on the way for new Supercharger installs:

https://electrek.co/2023/01/22/tesla-leaks-magic-dock-ccs-adapter-opening-supercharger-network/

If I were any American legacy automaker, I'd switch from the CCS charger to Tesla's ASAP. I'm sure some deal would have to be worked out, but it would do wonders for US legacy EV sales. Tesla's network is the biggest, most reliable, most convenient, and growing the fastest. Don't know if it's a pride thing on behalf of legacy auto, or if Tesla isn't willing, but with $billions at stake from the govt, I'm sure something could be worked out.
How are they doing it in Europe? Isn’t Tesla allowing everyone to use their network already?
 
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How are they doing it in Europe? Isn’t Tesla allowing everyone to use their network already?
Teslas sold in Europe have a different charge port and the superchargers are ccs compatible

 
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mildone_rivals

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It's not an electric vehicle, but it has the capability for software-automated operation. Wasn't worth starting a new thread, but thought I'd post it here since a lot of talk in this thread pertains to software-automated operation of vehicles.


The synopsis is that "AI" (it's not really, but whatever) flew a military jet for 17 hours. The article does half-jokingly refer to the movie "Stealth" for those who remember that. In any event, it looks like we're on the path to eventually building large-scale military weapons fully controlled by some form of "intelligent" software.

terminator GIF
 

RU4Real

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It's not an electric vehicle, but it has the capability for software-automated operation. Wasn't worth starting a new thread, but thought I'd post it here since a lot of talk in this thread pertains to software-automated operation of vehicles.


The synopsis is that "AI" (it's not really, but whatever) flew a military jet for 17 hours. The article does half-jokingly refer to the movie "Stealth" for those who remember that. In any event, it looks like we're on the path to eventually building large-scale military weapons fully controlled by some form of "intelligent" software.

terminator GIF

I said, about 5 years ago, that we were about a decade away from "HKs". The basic technology has been in the drawer for some time.

Warfare will become pretty interesting when an aggressor has the ability to act against concentrated population centers without incurring loss of manpower.
 
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I said, about 5 years ago, that we were about a decade away from "HKs". The basic technology has been in the drawer for some time.

Warfare will become pretty interesting when an aggressor has the ability to act against concentrated population centers without incurring loss of manpower.
It's all a little scary. As is miniaturized, militarized, drone tech, although that's still remotely controlled as opposed to psuedo-AI, at least for now.
 

RU4Real

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It's all a little scary. As is miniaturized, militarized, drone tech, although that's still remotely controlled as opposed to psuedo-AI, at least for now.

Drones are awesome, thought. You'd be amazed at the number of cruising boats carrying them now - especially those which frequent tropical anchorages. No more guessing where those coral heads are.
 

mildone_rivals

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Drones are awesome, thought. You'd be amazed at the number of cruising boats carrying them now - especially those which frequent tropical anchorages. No more guessing where those coral heads are.
Drones are great, agreed.

Ever since seeing Blade Runner 2049, I've been wanting to get a drone I can fly out ahead of my car and can use a variety of downward facing sensors to detect cyclists, joggers, and deer on, or alongside, or approaching, the road. And cops, of course.
 

RU4Real

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Drones are great, agreed.

Ever since seeing Blade Runner 2049, I've been wanting to get a drone I can fly out ahead of my car and can use a variety of downward facing sensors to detect cyclists, joggers, and deer on, or alongside, or approaching, the road. And cops, of course.

One of the car manufacturers (I forget which) just showed a design for a vehicle-launched drone.
 

mildone_rivals

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One of the car manufacturers (I forget which) just showed a design for a vehicle-launched drone.
It's a great idea, in theory. But I suppose, if everybody had them, there would be drones crashing down into cars a lot from all the collisions.

OTOH, perhaps we could all share a fleet of such drones, and tie it into our GPS such that we get notified about upcoming risks along the road we're on. Kind of like airborne infrastructure providing additional information to our vehicles.

Or we could just get St. Elon to put another few hundred thousand geosynchronous satellites in orbit.
 

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Funny thing is that all the Tesla owners I know love their car but also admit the build quality sucks. People can spend their money how they want.
Actually you can't always spend your money how you want.....if the company you want to buy an EV from can't make it. :)
 

Jtung230

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Actually you can't always spend your money how you want.....if the company you want to buy an EV from can't make it. :)
You just buy it from a flipper. That’s what most Tesla buyers were doing before Musk tanked their prices.
 

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Ford sh!ts the bed again. Just by a Tesla.
Nah. Will take the word of two renowned automobile experts over some guy on a football message board who is wrong more than he is right.
"In this video I show you the build quality of a Ford F150 Lightening (EV) compared to the Tesla Model X Plaid. Sadly the build quality issues are still a thing with Tesla while costing twice as much as the Ford!"


Munro Team Praises the Ford F-150 Lightning Chassis, It's Built Tough but Simple​

 
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  • An Axios reporter took a Kia EV6 on a 1,500 mile road trip.
  • She said it showed the US is not quite ready for an electric-car revolution.
  • She and her husband stopped to charge the car 12 times over the course of the trip from Michigan to Florida.
Taking an electric car on a road trip can be a stressful experience — at least according to a couple who took their Kia EV6 on a cross-country trip from Michigan to Florida.

Axios reporter Joann Muller said her husband took the electric car on a 1,500 mile road trip — she joined him part-way through — to see if the US is truly ready for mass EV adoption. While electric cars are becoming more prevalent, charging infrastructure isn't quite what it should be, Muller wrote.

"We were constantly thinking about where to charge next," Muller wrote of her experience during the trip. "It occupied our minds more than where to eat or spend the night."

They stopped 12 times to recharge the car, which has an estimated battery range of 274 miles, over the course of the 1,500 mile, four-day journey, and that charging times were between 20 to 55 minutes.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/new...pc=U531&cvid=c7a0cad8c67d4ac89c9558b56a447cc8