i would love to have an EV that can continuously charge from solar...meaning essentially endless range.
OT: Electric vehicles
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Would be nice, although it wouldn't solve the problem of requiring some form of storage for when the sun ain't shining.
If that calculator is correct that means 1 gallon of gas is equal to 33.4kwh
A long range battery for Tesla if I remember correct is around 100kwh which would breakdown in cost to about 3 gallons of gas to give a comparison in costs.
An average kwh costs about $.13 so would be $13 to "fill' a Tesla battery compared to an average of $3 per gallon (generous) X 16 gallons ($48) to fill a gas tank
That is a pretty nice savings
Well i think the most optimal would be electric/solar hybrid as you would never run out
Energy density? The US EPA uses the MPGe to compare an EV to an ICE.
But who cares what a Telsa battery pack weighs compared to gas? Once burned, the gas is gone. Batteries will be recharged 1,000s of times. That 96 pounds of gas needs to be refilled all the time anyways. So your comparison of 1,000 pounds of battery to 96 pounds of gas is apples-oranges.
The reveal of the humanoid robot overshadowed the fact that Tesla is going to eventually get to fully autonomous vehicles. They're in the lead, their lead is growing, and no one else is close.
The media glazed over the meat of the AI Day presentation and focused on the bot. It was very technical and long (3 hrs), but the main purpose was for recruiting talent.
The cost savings to consumers could be there, I don't know. I personally don't care what it costs so much as how far I can go without recharging or refilling. Edit: I'll amend that to say that gas and electricity prices haven't gotten close to a point where I've cared about them in my lifetime - that could always change at some point.
But I expect battery tech to improve considerably over the next decade. I'd expect much, much greater range with much lighter batteries to become the norm. And, as you said in an earlier post, I'd hope that we'd find more and more ways to recharge as we drive. Solar and/or other ways we haven't yet figured out.
Solar and wind + EVs go hand in hand. Decentralize the grid with local energy storage and we're all set.
Energy density might work, kind of, yeah.
I care how much it weighs because I care about range and handling. We all have our priorities. But, as I said a post or two up, the range issue is going to get solved. And energy production is going to get cleaner and cleaner. And the grid will become more and more efficient.
The error in thinking isn't that stuff won't improve with battery tech; of course it will and faster than people expect most likely. The error is that people think other power technologies won't also be discovered and/or improve.
I have zero dogs in this hunt. I don't care what technology(ies) "win" for groundmobiles.
But I want my first hover car to have endless power that never requires refilling or recharging and any emissions produced actually benefit the environment.
Yes, I think maybe so (we cross posted while I was agreeing with another poster who said the same).
Ugh. This fad needs to die.
As the media should. Because Tesla is not in the lead, nor has it ever been. Maybe it will be once it actually releases whatever promises it made.
Audi readied the market's first Level 3 system over 4 years ago. Mercedes, which was the first out with Level 2, also has a Level 3 system developed.
Not sure what you think you mean by "fully autonomous," but Tesla is still at Level 2 ...no further, except fancy marketing names and Musk promises. Wake me when they actually have Level 3+ ready to go.
The humanoid seemed more like typical low-hanging fruit Musk rolled out to distract anyone from asking too many questions about his "full autonomy."
I know, right? It's flat out stupid, from a drivability standpoint. We can't create road cars with the steering ratio to make a yoke make sense.
The whole yoke in a road car thing is just another nail in the signs of the apocalypse coffin.
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Wait! What if it's Musk himself that's the robot? OMG.
Okay, okay... I admit I may have had a bit too much coffee today.
Belly, if/when I ever get the Maverick, it will be to save money. No other pick up and very few cars are available for $20,000 and I am concerned that we may not see $ 2 a gallon gas for a long time, if ever. I would never buy a car that drives itself because I enjoy driving. I don’t even know what the point of them is except for overnight interstate trucking. I try to keep as much automation out of my life as possible—no ez pass, no atm, always try to go to a toll booth with a person to help keep people employed. Absolutely hate those crap machines to order sandwiches at Wawa/Quick Check. Almost never get a sandwich there anymore. Never use self checkout at Shop Rite, Lowe’s, etc. That junk is also putting people out of work. After September, a lot of folks are going to need those jobs.
When Tesla has a daily driver sedan that spanks every other car at the track without sweating, you better believe you’re gonna see more electric sports cars.
Article is about the terrible yoke steering wheel, which would make a horrifying trend (more Musk low-hanging fruit).
Looks more like a joke or rendering for shts and giggles than a real preview. Would look good on a Camaro SEMA project ...assuming it's one on the long list of branded aftermarket upgrades, never ever to become standard equipment.
Looks more like a joke or rendering for shts and giggles than a real preview. Would look good on a Camaro SEMA project ...assuming it's one on the long list of branded aftermarket upgrades, never ever to become standard equipment.
Oh no, no, no. It will be fully charged with a 1000 mile range after 10 minutes in the sun. Fantasy Island. "Boss, the plane, the plane" "Thank you, Tattoo".
LIDAR is a dead end and a crutch. It's the easy road used to hide a lack of engineering talent. Humans drive with vision and a brain, not by shooting lasers.
I'm pretty sure Audi and Mercedes aren't developing a super computer for neural network training. Also, Tesla's data collection lead (which trains the neural network) is unassailable.
Check out the AI Day presentation, or at least one of the condensed versions available on YouTube.
When it comes to battery capacity, all hybrids are not created equal. That was the point of my comment.
The point of autonomous vehicles is to make roads safer and lower the cost of transportation.
Technology has always replaced job, but also creates new ones. This has been happening since the industrial revolution. Nothing new.
Elon Musk has said there isn't nearly enough potential energy for solar on cars. However, Elon has been quoted saying that the Cyber Truck will have a solar option that could add 15 miles per day of range.
Nice review of how TSLA is vertically integrating key operations.
AI Day Highlighted Tesla’s Artificial Intelligence Prowess
At AI Day, an event focused on recruiting top artificial intelligence talent, Tesla unveiled an ambitious plan to complete the vertical integration of every component of its hardware and software stacks, from silicon, training cluster and compiler to driving simulator. If fully implemented in 2022, Tesla would be the most deeply integrated “automotive company” in the world, as shown below.
Forecasts are inherently limited and cannot be relied upon. For informational purposes only and should not be considered investment advice, or a recommendation to buy, sell or hold any particular security. Source: ARK Investment Management LLC.
Tesla pulled back the curtain on Dojo — its custom-built AI training supercomputer capable of 1 exaflop of performance, roughly twice the raw performance of the most powerful supercomputer in the world today. Dojo is centered around the D1, an application-specific chip (ASIC) designed from the ground up specifically for AI training, optimizing for low latency and high bandwidth. With System-on-Wafer packaging technology similar to that of Cerebras, Tesla combines 25 D1s on a single training tile for a whopping 9 petaflops of compute. A bespoke compiler designed to harness the D1’s custom instruction set architecture should be able to train Tesla’s neural nets with best-in-class hardware utilization.
We believe that by owning the AI stack - from training silicon to labeling to neural network design - Tesla should be able to iterate much faster than the competition. Not hostage to third parties shipping chips or fixing bugs, Tesla will be in full control.
Special thanks to James Wang for co-authoring this update.
More Musk double-speak right there.
There's a lot of room for improvement on solar panel efficiency.
So it's okay when Tesla uses marketing hyperbole to bash it's competitors. But when others do it, it's deceptive.
Riiight.
The sensitivity of the Anti-Tesla folks is astounding. But I will continue to document this until it is no longer true: Tesla is years ahead of the competition. The best EV manufacturer by a lot.
The good news: The competition is getting better by the day. Competition is good, great for consumers.
The good news: The competition is getting better by the day. Competition is good, great for consumers.
remember this nugget? pretty sure other manufacturers aren't making home depot runs during production to be able to cobble together their vehicles.
That tweet is not about best EVs.
As I stated before, Tesla is objectively not ahead in real-life autonomous driving. It never has been, but for some reason, fanboys believe it's at Level 4/5 when it's really at Level 2. Then they crash when they overestimate the capabilities.
As I stated before, Tesla is objectively not ahead in real-life autonomous driving. It never has been, but for some reason, fanboys believe it's at Level 4/5 when it's really at Level 2. Then they crash when they overestimate the capabilities.
Okay. Keep throwing **** on the wall. Something, someday might stick. Maybe next time, pick a real issue.
You can make any old statement you want, but it is still just your opinion. IDGAS about your opinions. I am interested in real analysis and facts. You haven't brought any facts yet.