That is part of the problem too. Cars and trucks are sitting at rail yards for weeks because of the truck driver shortage.
OT: Electric vehicles
- Thread starter BellyFullOfWhiteDogCrap
- Start date
Lol, do you think any YouTube reviewer buys his own stuff.
The magazines and auto websites are no different. Take some exotic all-expenses-paid trip to test out the latest Accord, in perfect tune, optioned $20 grand over the base price.
If you have a VIN and an order number, which can be obtained from your dealer, you can check on the status of your car at: https://shop.ford.com/vehicleordert...5dau8axzpzZV8CrN6iqM670FXy8qlxA60WtRl4_HFpE#/
Ford‘s IT sucks so this isn’t always reliable.
Last edited:
Steve, I don’t know if you have already done this, but have you contacted Brad Brownell and Elena Ford? They are in the Executive level of Ford Customer Service and I have seen on the Maverick message boards people with long term delays have looked into it and been very helpful. I am sorry but I do not know their emails or phone numbers. You are probably 100 times better at google than me. Wouldn’t hurt to try. Best of luck.
Lol...you funny. When you can't make enough products to satisfy demand, give **** away for free anyway, right?
Does Tesla pay the YouTuber's that show FSD 's shortcomings too?
That's completely different from the Biden administration completely ignoring Tesla's existence and giving stolen valor to GM.
Rutgers Chris wasn't joking. Biden has yet to say the word "Tesla" publicly.
I have a dinner bet with a buddy. What happens first... Biden says "Tesla", or first Cybertruck delivery. I took Biden. That old coot has about a year to say it. We'll see.
Another thing to factor is where is Ford placing priority with the ongoing semiconductor chip shortage?
With less than 30k units sold in 2021, Ford loses money on every Mach E they make. Those prescious chips are going to their profitable ICE vehicles.
Don’t expect him to. Tesla’s all-in with China. Opening a showroom in an area labeled for human rights violations by the us won’t win you too many praises.
You can't possibly be this naive. Wanna guess how many American corporations operate in Xinjiang?
True, but the timing of it was terrible and Musk has gone out of his way to suck up to China in the past.
Wrong. The timing wasn't terrible. Just a
case of more media FUD that you get suckered into time and time again.
Elon/Tesla = Clicks
Haven't figured this out yet?
And what specifically should Tesla do differently in China? That seems to be your go to dig at Tesla. Would your advice apply to the hundreds of other American businesses within China?
Maybe timing was perfect. It’s just want China wanted to show the world. Elon knows where his bread is buttered. I get it. It’s business. Just don’t cry about why Biden is not mentioning Tesla.
So you wouldn't do anything different. It's business. We can conclude your against business. Got it.
Or, maybe you just like regurgitating media FUD without thinking for yourself.
Think you have it backwards. I’m pro business that’s why I understand Elon’s constant *** kissing. Got it? I just like to point out facts. He is not doing good for humanity by teaming up with a communist country. It’s all about the $$$$$.
Correct. Just like Biden not saying Tesla has nothing to do with human rights concerns and everything to do with pleasing the unions.
Yes, a lot about the unions but wouldn’t say nothing to do with human rights.
Can only claim to not look the other way when it’s convenient
This isn't a zero sum game. Corporations can operate within China, have a profitable business, and still do a net good for humanity.
Your obsession with Tesla/China remains puzzling. You act like they're the only American business in the country.
The EV6 is basically the same vehicle as the Hyundai Ioniq 5. It's reflective if the inadequacies of "customer satisfaction" metrics that the ratings for the 2 vehicles aren't the same.
Nevertheless, based on everything I've read both of them are solid entries that suffer from a range issues - their fully charged range is quoted as 270 miles. Other than that, they seem to be just fine.
I always thought customer satisfaction was guided by expectations.
Even though Hyundai and Kia are the same company if you start out thinking Hyundai is a better brand your expectations are most likely higher thus customer satisfaction would reflect that
I'd be careful using any customer satisfaction metric. Ratings can be all over the place from one publication to the next. Example: Ford Foundation is a philanthropic partner with Consumer Reports.
Best to do your own due diligence IMO. In addition to the obvious things like range, price, safety features, warranty...etc, make sure to check out pack size, vehicle weight, efficiency (watthours/mile), charging speed, availability of software updates, cold weather impact to range.
Go for test drives and cruise by some charging stations and talk to owners directly. Most EV owners are very happy to discuss.
Favorable review of Kia SUV
It only comes up when Tesla fans complaint about why Biden doesn’t mention Tesla. Know you see where the obsession lies.
110,000 for Chevy Silverado and 150,000 for Ford Lightning electrics. I wonder if both companies thought these would be such a huge success on day one. Never thought this would happen so fast.
I did.
Even if you're not an environmentalist, spend a few hours in an EV and you'll realize they are superior machines.
These projections of 50% EV sales by 2030 are dead wrong. Exponential growth. Disruptive technology. We're just starting to hit that vertical part of the S-curve.
The ICE age is over. Thank goodness.
Belly,you probably know 100 times more about this stuff than I do, but you can’t have 50 different types of charging stations where they only work on certain cars.People can’t be stopping at these places with a Lightning and then find out they work on VWs. It would be like you can only go Quick Check, Joe can only go to Gulf, Bill can only go to Sunoco etc.I did.
Even if you're not an environmentalist, spend a few hours in an EV and you'll realize they are superior machines.
These projections of 50% EV sales by 2030 are dead wrong. Exponential growth. Disruptive technology. We're just starting to hit that vertical part of the S-curve.
The ICE age is over. Thank goodness.
And you can't hit exponential growth until the number of charging points can support that growth. If charging points can't keep up, and stories of people having to drive way out of their way to find a place to charge, or excessive wait times to plug in... it will slow down adoption.
It's true that Tesla has their own charging hardware in the US. So, if you have a non-Tesla EV you're going to have to use a 3rd party charger.
All other EVs can use CCS charging hardware which is available at all 3rd party chargers (Blink, EVgo, Electrify America...etc.)
Tesla is exploring the option of opening up their charging network to other vehicles. They're currently experimenting in a few European countries.
Of course, if an EV owner has access to home charging, they'll rarely use public charging anyway.
Charging stations can be put up just about anywhere unlike gas stations.
In conclusion, I do not see public charging infrastructure as an obstacle to EV adoption. As vehicle production scales, so will charging infrastructure. It's already happening.
Last edited:
Availability of public charging is going to be a very big deal. As housing becomes denser and more urbanized in various parts of the country, not everyone is going to have their own garage. Thus, the need for ample charging points in parking decks, at street level, and parking lots. My old townhouse community didn't have garages, so what would those folks do? How about in condo communities? I know a builder who's doing the big Ewing downtown development project, and he's planning on putting in a number of Tesla charging stations. However, would that be enough to support an entire neighborhood of EV's and the people who are coming to the shops and stuff?
EVs are already growing exponentially. So is the charging infrastructure. Seems to be working.
I know you really want this to be a problem, but it's not. Maintain the current course. It doesn't have to happen overnight.
but it is a problem. my office has like 6-8 parking spots with charging ports in the parking deck meant for hundreds of cars. the same cars park in the EV spots every day, with their cars plugged in. they don't move it at lunch time or when their car is done charging. How do things like this work when you've got a parking deck full of EV's and more than 6-8 are looking to top off during the day? what happens when it's a condo community with dozens of units in a building 2 cars per unit? how do you retrofit all of this at scale? i get it, you're a dreamer and not a logistics guy, but this is the reality of such a huge change.
Idle fees. Most charging networks have them and they work. Sounds like your office needs to implement.
Infrastructure buildouts are all around you.