OT: Electric vehicles
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"Unlike a modern conventional car where an engine replacement is unlikely, replacement of an EV's battery park is likely as the vehicle ages and delivers unsatisfactory range"
This is outdated and false.
Belly, would you say it is safe to assume a buyer can get at least five years and 100,000 miles on a battery, whether a hybrid or full electric ?
sounds like, as with any other car, YMMV. battery should last at least that long tho.
36, I have heard of a fair amount of people having to replace normal batteries at 80,000 and less than five years.
No idea about hybrids, but full electric, 100%.
There's always the possibility of an outlier, but the same is true of an ICE.
As far as battery degradation goes, some is unavoidable, but the owner can do their part to minimize with good charging habits. Don't charge to 100% unless you're going to drive shortly after. Don't leave your vehicle sitting for long periods with less than 20% charge.
The great thing about an iron-phosphate (LFP)battery pack is charging habits really don't matter. Charge to 100%, discharge to 0%, doesn't affect degradation.
And FYI...Fuel efficiency of ICEs decrease with age too.
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Most interesting thing about that chart is that the VW group was, not long ago, pretty much where Toyota Motor Corp is on that chart, relative to Tesla. Point being that it's great how quickly companies are able to get ramped up w/electrification once they get serious about it. Gonna be tons of EVs on the road soon, and lots of strong competition which will drive prices down.
Great for consumers. Potentially good for the environment, too.
Nuclear. It ain't great but it's inevitable.
Not forever, but for a while until renewables grow and mature enough to power everything. And that'll be a while.
Every EV sold in the USA (I believe), has a warranty for 100,000 miles. So if a battery is replaced that soon, the manufacturer will pay for it.
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around 200,000 milesConsumer Reports estimates the average EV battery pack's lifespan to be at around 200,000 miles, which is nearly 17 years of use if driven 12,000 miles per year.
How Long Should An Electric Car's Battery Last? - MYEV.com
https://www.myev.com › research › ev-101 › how-long-s...
CNET has been doing a lot of stuff in which they are way out of their lane lately.
@Knight Shift Dozens sitting out of 2,800 doesn’t seem like a big deal. I know I have read they will only send out full haulers ( 8 per truck) .
Almost every state now has or will have a tax/fee for hybrids and full electrics.
It is also the infrastructure.. how electricity is distributed.. so old.. so inneficient.. microreactors may be the answer.. generate very close to where the juice is used.. but we have heard this stuff before... NIMBY rules...
Yeah, I mean, to be honest, I wouldn't want to have a nuclear reactor right next door to me. But regardless, I just don't see any path forward that doesn't include more nuclear than we have now without burning coal or doing something equally problematic carbon-wise given the rapidly growing need for electrical generation from EV adoption and population increases and so forth.
The microreactors look pretty interesting, at a high level at least. Thanks for that link. As you say, NIMBY will still be the rule, but maybe the ability to rapidly move the reactor to an unpopulated area (or, you know, downwind) might be a selling point.
New Hyundai electric car plant in Georgia—
I will take a pick up or a Jeep/Bronco any day over a car, but this is pretty awesome. The company sounds like it is a wine.
That one debuted in NY. Anyone go to the show last month?
Think most of the stuff talked about here was there, including the VW ID Buzz, Silverado EV, Kia EV6, Hyundai Ioniq 5 - looks like they had an EV test track.
Not an EV but Bronco Raptor, also.
Think most of the stuff talked about here was there, including the VW ID Buzz, Silverado EV, Kia EV6, Hyundai Ioniq 5 - looks like they had an EV test track.
Not an EV but Bronco Raptor, also.
There have been a ton people that have waited a longgg time for their Broncos to arrive. Makes my seven month and still waiting Maverick order seem like nothing.
No...no...I would be happy to have it in my area...but... not enough space, high cost of land, labor costs are higher, environmental concerns... it just wouldn't make financial sense...
I was there. Did the test track for F150 Lighting. Also checked out the Bronco Raptor. Honestly, my favorite was the corvette.
VW bringing back the International Scout as an electric off-roader and pickup brand (just "Scout").
Aiming to be like Rivian but in $40K range.
Aiming to be like Rivian but in $40K range.
That is a good article. I don't want to add to the Tesla vs other auto makers divide, but Ford and GM have many years of expertise with trucks and towing, and this may give them a leg up in the EV truck segment over Tesla. We shall see.