OT: Electric vehicles
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Now if they could just get to that autonomous one that can drop me at the top of the mountain and pick me up at the bottom, life will be next level.
Speaking of misinformation
Exactly, the yahoos at Yahoo have never heard of vehicle registration data. Corollas sitting on dealership lots are being counted vs Model Ys in customer driveways. Keep trying sport.
Lol ...not for snowboarding or downhill mountain biking, but point takenIsn't it supposed to be the other way around, there, Sir Edmund?
LOL. That’s not what’s happening. But if you read the article you would understand.
Wow, I wonder what the depreciation is on a Tesla with FSD is? What a way to treat your best clients who were willing to buy something that didn’t really work.
You have a humiliation fetish. "We contacted Toyota"..... lol. That's their data point. "We can't find a breakout of 3 vs Y"... Solid reporting. It's available
Oh wait, what's this?
These yahoos used vehicle registration data:
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/tesl...worldwide-in-the-first-quarter-154909234.html
Your reading skills need help. You still didn’t get it. They are doing the Tesla word game in the article. I can assure you the numbers are all correct.
I’m still wondering why anybody would think that whatever the vehicle is with the most sales, nationally or globally, it’s something to crow about. But whatever floats people’s boats.
Oh yay! McDonald’s sells more french fries than Burger King. Woo hoo! I’m so proud. Makes my day.
Oh yay! McDonald’s sells more french fries than Burger King. Woo hoo! I’m so proud. Makes my day.
If I were you, I wouldn't assure anything EV related. Your track record speaks for itself.
"How many Cybertrucks do you have reserved?"
Wtf?!
Wtf?!
Right? I only suspected it was a BS stat until I read the article. Then I knew.
When a large percentage of your customer base cultishly worships your brand, you can shovel all the **** you want at them and they'll not only swallow it like it's unicorn tears, they'll "process it" and serve it up for their fellow cult members to feed on.
Absolutely tremendous defensive play by Volpe.
Two outs man on second running on contact, I immediately told Bill
Madlock…”ball deep in the hole I’m coming to you”
Two outs man on second running on contact, I immediately told Bill
Madlock…”ball deep in the hole I’m coming to you”
I don't know, I watched the Denmark - China match, just now, and neither team really looks competitive. Probably just grind up some chuck and brisket and do the hamburger thing for dinner.
Because they are better?I’m still wondering why anybody would think that whatever the vehicle is with the most sales, nationally or globally, it’s something to crow about. But whatever floats people’s boats.
Oh yay! McDonald’s sells more french fries than Burger King. Woo hoo! I’m so proud. Makes my day.
Indeterminate and subjective. We only know they are more popular, right?
Or we would know it if it’s true. I actually have no idea and, crucially to the point I’m trying to make, don’t care if it’s true or not. It‘s meaningless in my life.
And, I might argue, it should be meaningless in almost everybody else’s life. It’s a French fry. Or a car. Get what you want and who GAF how popular it is.
I appreciate being triggered when it gives me an excuse to emphasize a particular argument. So, gracias mi amigo.
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There's a lot of that going around. Who cares who else drinks the same beer as you, or who advertises it, or who else listens to the same music? People attach their identity in part to products--the car industry led the way 100 years ago in selling cars as a "lifestyle" and a reflection of who you are and not just transportation. As a result many people care about the image of a product and its popularity: if it's popular that proves you're smart and made a good choice.
Fine.
Indeterminate and subjective. We only know they are more popular, right?
Or we would know it if it’s true. I actually have no idea and, crucially to the point I’m trying to make, don’t care if it’s true or not. It‘s meaningless in my life.
And, I might argue, it should be meaningless in almost everybody else’s life. It’s a French fry. Or a car. Get what you want and who GAF how popular it is.
I appreciate being triggered when it gives me an excuse to emphasize a particular argument. So, gracias mi amigo.
But repeated taste tests over the years says theirs rate the highest.
I’m closer to the french fries are french fries like you. Although some are better than others.
I drive a Subaru but I am not part of that lifestyle.
Not that there is anything wrong with that.
What lifestyle is associated with Subarus? Birkenstock wearing lesbians? Honestly, I didn't know Subaru still existed.I drive a Subaru but I am not part of that lifestyle.
Not that there is anything wrong with that.
I think there’s truth to that and it’s that truth that I object to. That is, people aren’t aware of how much they’re being manipulated into turning their preferences into adulation and worship.
The idea that a popular choice equates to an intelligent choice is entirely illogical. It’s the process used to make the choice that can be intelligent (or not). If the choice is made because “everybody’s doing it”? Well that’s just plain dumb.
And yet, as you point out, people point to popularity as a confirmation of the wisdom and intelligence of their choices. It’s *** backwards thinking, but becoming more and more common.
And because of that, those same people are soft targets for social engineering and all the manipulation inherent to it.
Advertising works. There is so much manipulation going on it's insane, and part of the manipulation is to get people to think they're independent thinkers who have arrived at conclusions all their own. Politicians learned this long ago and now control agendas like they never used to as a result.
The level of sophistication in marketing of all sorts of stuff, especially politics and ideology, has skyrocketed over the past 20 years. We’ve gone from people merely being unaware of how they’re being manipulated to want stuff to people being effectively enlisted to be a foundational part of the manipulation.
An insidious technique, it leverages people’s preferences, fears, and insecurities, to program people’s selectivity in their skepticism. The psychology behind this is taken directly from research into what compels people to join and then become stuck in cults.
In a cult, people become convinced to irrationally worship the leader (or leadership). At the same time, and critically, they're programmed to identify two broad sets of enemies. One set of enemies is anybody who might provide rational counterpoint to the messaging (e.g. parents). Another set of enemies is people who can be very easily demonized because of the fears inherent to a particular cult's membership.
A big part of the approach is to assert as much control over people's skepticism as possible. Effectively dictate who and what people should trust and distrust.
It's very powerful psychology. It's obviously a big part of how political parties and lobbyist firms, working on behalf of special-interest groups, work today.
But we've also seen adopted by certain corporations as a marketing tool. Relevant to this thread, Tesla is a great example. We can clearly see the distrust programming in how the Teslerati have such an outsized persecution complex - like a cult member - everyone's out to get them.
That didn't happen by accident.
And even beyond this, marketers for some time have been working on finding ways around your brain's natural defenses, using functional MRIs to figure out how the brain works in ways relevant to buying things. Long ago they already tried subliminal messaging, but that didn't work well so they're looking deeper. At some point it greatly risks becoming manipulation that can't be tolerated by a society because it's literally finding ways to get people to do things against their will. A technology exists that can beam sound into an ear such that that person is the only one who can hear it. That seems like another dark path.
Mix in AI and the whole thing is very troubling. So I'm on a one-man mission (from God) to preach 24/7 skepticism of absolutely everything.
People need to learn to be most skeptical of that which they already believe, or want to believe. Instead, they're only skeptical of what they've been told to distrust. Dumb.
Listen up people - it's a redundant waste of time being skeptical of that which you already disbelieve.
How people don't already understand this common-sense and logical truth amazes me. But they don't.
When a human driver crashes into your car and kills you, with the cause being human error, your family can sue. But most drivers have a pretty limited amount of money so the plaintiff’s award is likewise limited.
When a massive company like Tesla’s car is doing the driving, using frequently updated OTA software, how long will it be before someone is successful in naming Tesla as the defendant and winning the case and the punitive damages reach into the 100s of millions?
When a massive company like Tesla’s car is doing the driving, using frequently updated OTA software, how long will it be before someone is successful in naming Tesla as the defendant and winning the case and the punitive damages reach into the 100s of millions?
How many times are you going to push this dumb narrative? I know, infinite times; you will make multiple posts expressing faux outrage about how wronged and misunderstood you are. When the real intent is to troll and spam this thread. Why? Dunno. Attention? Jollies?
I post an opinion about an automotive technology I think is dangerous for other drivers as well as for Tesla shareholders like me who will bear the brunt of potential huge lawsuits. Entirely on topic and highly relevant to the thread.
And you’re responding as if I just insulted the love of your life, launching a childish, unprovoked, personal attack over it.
Think maybe you might be just a wee bit too emotionally attached to a bit of technology?
Elon wants the Cybertruck to look more like the F150? 
Possible frunk fail to by the CT. Another reason to skip the CT for some.
Possible frunk fail to by the CT. Another reason to skip the CT for some.