And you determined this after a deep lab analysis?
And is there a substantive difference between iron particles "embedded" in the body panels and the panels themselves? Looks like **** either way.
OT: Electric vehicles
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And you determined this after a deep lab analysis?
And is there a substantive difference between iron particles "embedded" in the body panels and the panels themselves? Looks like **** either way.
Perhaps? And I would have no major objection to be taxed for electric usage as a function of output from my EV charger if the charges were consistent with the fuel taxes.
I didn't hear it on main stream media, but you do have your bogeyman.
Kid at work showed me something on his phone.
Most likely off some garbage social media, but as belly points out, there is an issue.
But here is a link. Warning, it's mainstream media. (I think, not sure what is considered mainstream.)
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I'm guessing he determined it after a shallow examination of some Tesla propaganda.
Although, I suppose all rust starts out as "surface contamination", right?
Is the truck itself rusting? No. I'd say that's a substantive difference. This same type of surface contamination can happen with any car. Especially noticable on white.
Apparently this can happen, but the first time I heard about it was after hearing about it with the cybertruck. Which makes me think it's much more of an issue with stainless steel.
And I'm guessing this is also what is happening with the Weber grills I mentioned.
Is there any context for reduced commuting, with the laptop class working from home 20-40% of the time?
Not sure the %, but it is definitely a part of the equation.
As are EV and Hybrid cars.
Countered by, in the overall gas usage at least, a growing population.
Yeah, the guy who started the thread seems "wired" towards pure EVs or bust, but hybrids are a terrific option for people who do a lot of around town driving and charge back up every day. In many instances, daily errands, etc can be accomplished with zero emissions, and may account for 60-90% of a person's driving. Then, when they want to go on a long trip, they don't have to worry about range anxiety of having a pure EV.
The good news is that there is less air pollution than pre-pandemic.
I think what those graphs were showing more then anything was increased effiencies. Hybrids are definitely a big step up in efficient vehicles
And as in turns out are the hot growth segment in the market at the moment.
R1S outselling model X is a good sign for Rivian. The R2 will be a nightmare for model Y. Surprise that ID4 is catching up to Mach-E because it’s nothing special. Mach-E is just priced too high.
Buddy saw that list and said the best EV on that list might be the Ioniq 5.
It's quirky looking but somehow I kind of like it.
Made it home, range anxiety is the real deal but the car drives incredibly. Super happy with it.
Final price tag, ~52.5k out the door for a 80k sticker. It was the last Lariat ER at that dealership.
That's massive savings. Congrats on the new car.
I would imagine the range anxiety dies down with experience/practice.
I would think it's almost entirely for long trips. Be hard to be anxious once the car is home and can be easily kept charged for all the short trips most cars take.
Yes, was sure to install a home charger earlier this week in anticipation. Currently filling her up. Not overly concerned longer term as we rarely drive trips longer than 80 miles at a clip so home charging will be sufficient and if there is a need for longer trips, have another car.
If you don’t like it, I have a bid at 52.5k
After all this time, you're still going with the idea that EVs are competing with each other, when ~90% of the market is ICE? Do you really think it's Tesla or BYD that is holding back sales for other EV makers?
Let's hope Rivian is still around to bring this car to market.
Of course EVs are competing with each other. Just look at the Y vs the 3.
I thought there was 'UGE unmet demand for EVs? How could they not be competing v each other?
Who's even thinking about an ICE or ICE hybrid anymore? They can't get these e-machines built fast enough, right?!
For sure, I personally would not want to rely on public charging just yet. Which is why I went ICE with the recent SUV purchase, given road trips as a priority.
Going to drive to FL soon and would dislike having to stop and charge at least 3 times each way, where charging would take at least an hour (if using a Tesla supercharger, longer otherwise), and where the possibility of having to also wait for an unused charger exists.
I’ll reevaluate in about 4 years, when hopefully good progress will have been made w/public charging and batteries and so forth.
My max drive is like 4 to 6 hours. I can do it but don’t want to anymore. I recently had to drive up to Boston and drive back after 20 min stop in Boston. It was 9.5 hrs total.
9.5 round-trip drive-time from where? From where I live in NJ, the "standard" drive-time today would be about 4.5 hours each way. So 9.5 wouldn't be all that bad, considering traffic and the need to refuel once. A lot depends on what day and time one's travelling.
I really enjoy driving, so I really enjoy long road trips. If I were travelling alone, I would likely do the ~18 hours to FL straight through, only stopping for fuel/bathroom breaks.
That was with an ICE. 4 hrs without traffic and 5.5 hrs back with two accidents. You are right. I don’t mind long road trips. I just can’t do them with my family
@jtung230 and @Knight Shift talk to me about tonneau covers and bedliners (plastic vs linex)?
Thinking line-x (see they have a shop in Keyport) for the bed, haven't looked at the tonneau.
Thinking line-x (see they have a shop in Keyport) for the bed, haven't looked at the tonneau.
What am I supposed to look at? Sedans compete with SUVs? Really? Is that for everybody, or just Tesla?
I hope you're not in business. Pure BEV makers are going after the ICE market. Why fight over the crumbs of market share, when the whole pie is available?
Don't have a Lightning but was looking at this for my truck. Taking it to a shop for spray-on, line-x or similar, seemed the best route.
Got a set of drawers for the bed so will prob skip it for now.
Am looking at shells so no rec on tonneaus.
I have the spray-in factory bedliner.
I have and really like the one listed below. Less than 1.5 years ago it was $879. Now it's $1199. Holy inflation, Batman. You should do some searching on the F-150 Lightning forums too. Wonderful resource that forum for all sorts of things about the Lightning.
BAK Revolver X4s Hard Rolling Truck Bed Tonneau Cover | 80339
Personally, I wish I got a rubber bedliner. I have the factory plastic one. Anything I put in the back just slides around. Plus I don’t really abuse it. I got the trifold cover. It was easy to install and cheap. Downside is that you will have to remove it if you store items that don’t fit in the bed
ETA the factor bedliner also parents me from installing a bed extender rack.
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I like my spray in bedliner. Not slippery/slidey (if that's a word) at all. I like the cover I got, it rolls up and out of the way and does not block the rear window, if that matters to you.
I did a search on the F150 forum of threads with tonneau in the title. Here ya go:
Wanted a truck with bedliner but ultimately bought one without, just painted metal bed. First snow this year, forgot how it's like walking on frosted glass. I went sliding full-on cartoon style, body flailing four feet over the bed until crashing down. Thought for a second my snowboarding season was over before even getting out once, but ultimately just a bruise.
Began shopping bedliners (and shoes with winter traction soles) minutes later. Spray-on sounds like the best option for traction.
If you are going to haul any type of metal items (trash, bikes, tools, etc), it pays to also have at least a tarp or a rubber mat to line the bed too. A cheap tarp may do fine, used that to slide some bulk construction trash out of the bed and into the town dump pile.
iSeeCars study results unsurprisingly have Tesla used cars losing the most value, due to aggressive price cuts. The good news is buying one now is pretty inexpensive and hopefully, for recently new owners, the price cuts are over.
The report shows the average drop in value for all brands of cars, which might be useful info for those looking to buy a new car soon.
The report shows the average drop in value for all brands of cars, which might be useful info for those looking to buy a new car soon.
First legacy domino to fall. Scroll through the thread for more details.