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Husker Hank

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For what?

Im suggesting we hold all individuals guilty of child molestation, rape and human trafficking accountable regardless of political affiliation.

You see that and rush to defend your party.

You like fvckin kids too, Hank? You must be in bed with those sick Epstein fvcks to justify the behavior.
For TDS, it has you by the nuts, and has turned you into a schlemiel. :oops: 😬
 
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How'd tds make you start thinking about kids now...you're scaring me
See above. Twas explained.

...Unless there are kids up there. Then you stay down here.

 

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Yeah, Maxwell has no reason to say Trump wasn't guilty of anything.

LOL 😆

Yeah she should use that evidence to get off free right? Great point genius. How dumb is she to not get a plea deal when she has evidence on Trump. ...lol

What about Jeffrey. Who is in the files mad at Trump in the files saying he ratted him out.

But hey we should believe you..lol
 
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For what?

Im suggesting we hold all individuals guilty of child molestation, rape and human trafficking accountable regardless of political affiliation.

You see that and rush to defend your party.

You like fvckin kids too, Hank? You must be in bed with those sick Epstein fvcks to justify the behavior.

We all need to organize and go to these people's homes and jobs demanding answers

I would do that if someone is close enough
 
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Is that why Colbert is canceled? Because “so many“ are laughing? Is that why conservative Gutfeld on cable beats all the network late night guys?

You might want to get your head out of the sand.
Conservative crap always out shows the others. Conservatives tend to watch more news/tv and are much less likely to step outside of their bubble to watch/read any other viewpoints.
 
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Lets ask Biden this question shall we?

The left threw everything and the kitchen sink at Trump, charging him with multiple crimes. But for some odd reason you cannot seem to explain…the left kept the Epstein files locked down during the Biden years. Hmmmm… that is weird, isn’t it?

Use some common sense. You think the files show Trump is guilty, yet the leaders on the left just……… ignored that for four years under Biden. I guess they didn’t feel like going after Trump with all these Epstein files that you think show him as guilty.
Dude those files were still under a pending investigation by not only the members of the Biden DOJ but also trump appointed judges. Even if a president wanted them released, federal grand jury material cannot simply be made public without court approval.

I know that the Trump admin doesn't follow the rule of law so you think that somehow your argument holds water. But the fact is it simply doesn't. On top of that.... Biden didn't run on "The most transparent president ever and Releasing the files." Your guy did that. You reap what you sow big boy!
 
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I cannot decide whether you are being disingenuous or are actually this close minded. You cannot be serious.

You ask, who have they stoked fear of?

- whites
- Christians
- conservatives
- Republicans
- pro-lifers
- traditional marriage
- ICE
- police
- pro Israel groups
- pro second amendment

I have a hard time believing you are an honest person. Every night we turn on the TV and see liberals screaming at the top of their lungs, blocking traffic, blocking law-enforcement and spewing hate. And you act like “oh there is the occasional anger.’

Honest liberals at least acknowledge they are pissed off and angry right now. You can’t even get yourself to admit that. The entire left seems to have lost their minds. And you act like “who us?”
That's because I'm not actually a liberal. Don't mistake my disdain for the "NEW GOP" with liberalism.

No one on the left has stoked the fears that you have mentioned. In fact all of that is propagated by the Trump regime and the christian right. You've been made to think that all of those things mentioned are liberal productions. They are simply responses to actions taken by the MAGA movement and its sycophants.

Name one thing a left politician has said that stoked fear of Whites, Christians, etc. I will give you this. I and many others are fearful of the end game/results of the GOP and ICE. Not because of what some politician said. But because of the actions of those entities.
 
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Dude those files were still under a pending investigation by not only the members of the Biden DOJ but also trump appointed judges. Even if a president wanted them released, federal grand jury material cannot simply be made public without court approval.

I know that the Trump admin doesn't follow the rule of law so you think that somehow
The investigation was oyour argument holds water. But the fact is it simply doesn't. On top of that.... Biden didn't run on "The most transparent president ever and Releasing the files." Your guy did that. You reap what you sow big boy!

The investigation was over in 21.

But keep on lying
 

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Nice try, Podesta.
Nice try at what? Im genuinely clarifying as I cant recall if Im mixing wires and confusing him for another gentleman that spoke so openly about their Christian faith - of which I have no qualms with. So long as you aren't claiming to be a Christian with one side of your mouth, and declaring everyone else in your vicinity a retard with the other half.
 

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While Trump may or may not be Diddy. Neither are fit for the office of the presidency. Whether Trump is guilty of pedophilia or not matters little when it comes to the fact that our children are watching. History will not be kind.
See, that is the problem with the left, always pointing the finger but failing to see their own failures. Obama was a druggie, his life totally erased so there are no trails, had a fascination with other males. Clinton couldn't keep his pants on and his wife is a deranged liar who spent millions covering up her own lies and hidden crimes with an indisputable list of bodies in her wake. Joe was such of man of moral character, he lied his way through college, had to drop out of the presidential race because he couldn’t tell the truth, showered with his young daughter and his accuser of sexual harassment was forced to move out of the country. Never mind the protection of the idiots around him while he was lost in space, wandering in the rose garden when he wasn't taking a nap. Liars and those taking the 5th all around and the laptop was just a Russian misinformation as well. The truth is we have a world of liars and criminals that too many people look up to. I don't look up to any of them. I look at policies and even at that they are on balance. The left likes to characterize Trump supporters as blinding idiots. We are not, we hope someone will clean up the foreign and domestic messes that have been left behind - like allowing Iran to have nukes, paying them off and allowing at least 20 million to cross our borders illegally and bankrupt cites and this country housing and feeding them. Yep, some explaining to do for everyone.
 
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Still waiting to see a Democrat voter ask why their entire party is literally in the Epstein files
LOL. entire party? But lets pretend that they are. The difference would be that I and all others would want them to pay the price for their misdeeds. If Clinton is guilty of being a pedo...Than throw his *** in jail. No one on the Dem side is making excuses for people who are guilty or may be guilty. Now look at MAGA and the circus of excuse making and circle jerking that is going on. It's ridiculous. It's a cult!
 
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I agree that most people want all predators to burn.

I think what some are saying is the outrage is selective from Democrats. They care and talk about one person in the files. Only one. No evidence of Trump doing anything with minors, but they sure hope there is that evidence.

The left was absolutely IN BED with Weinstein. And to a different degree, Epstein. The Obama and Clintons and so many others on the left took money from Weinstein, gave glowing speeches about Weinstein, provided special access, and gave special favors. The Clintons and Weinsteins rented homes next to each other. Weinstein was a "bundler" for Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign, meaning he collected large donations from others on her behalf. He hosted fundraisers at his home and in 2016 alone, he gave in in-kind contributions to the Hillary Victory Fund. He helped raise $1.5 million for her.

But wait. They don’t care about that. SILENCE from the left on their leaders being so intimate with corruption. Frankly they care only about one person. Donald Trump.
Maybe clinton. I would like to see the Transcripts on Obama's comments about Weinstein. The right has been trying to throw shade at Obama for decades. Fact is he is probably the cleanest in terms of morality of any president since ????

Corruption has run amok in both parties but the GOP (presidentially) has far more indicted bad actors then the dems. Not even close.

Summary (Rough Historical Totals, 1961–2016)​


CategoryDemocraticRepublican
Executive Branch Indictments~3~120+
Executive Branch Convictions~1–2~89–95
Prison Sentences~1–2~30+
Members of Congress & State/Local OfficialsBoth parties have convictions; no precise official total
 
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Conservative crap always out shows the others. Conservatives tend to watch more news/tv and are much less likely to step outside of their bubble to watch/read any other viewpoints.
Or.........try and do some math. There are 3 shows on network late night that are hosted by people who are liberal hacks and only 1 show on network late night that is right wing. The same goes for most regular programing. When half of the country is leans conservative and half leans liberal, splitting half by 3 or 4 or 5 is always going to produce lower numbers than dividing half by 1, maybe 1.5 if you add Newsmax and OAN.
 
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I would remind all of you that late night talk show hosts are actors too. They are playing a role to get the most money/viewers that they can, with the least amount of resistance.
 

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Hillary just can't stop lying.

I dont recall meeting Epstein.

I only saw them at fund raisers yet their is a picture of Ghislaine at Chelsea's wedding...lol
 
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LOL. entire party? But lets pretend that they are. The difference would be that I and all others would want them to pay the price for their misdeeds. If Clinton is guilty of being a pedo...Than throw his *** in jail. No one on the Dem side is making excuses for people who are guilty or may be guilty. Now look at MAGA and the circus of excuse making and circle jerking that is going on. It's ridiculous. It's a cult!

Cool well go ahead and get started cause we have the evidence right now.

What are you waiting on?

Why would they reach out to a known Pedophile for ANYTHING?
 
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Uh huh. You gonna address a point kid or join the ever growing list of alledged men throwing tantrums up in this muh.
Attack the messenger not the message. Playbook response.

From my brief encounters with you, you're one of the most level headed posters on here.

But if you're not a loyalist the you will be attacked.
 
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Why is it we can't talk about current issues or current administration without people bringing up people who are not in office anymore.

You honestly think besides immigration this administration has been America first and addressing affordability or price issues.

The corruption and bribing is out in the open and you don't care.
 
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Or.........try and do some math. There are 3 shows on network late night that are hosted by people who are liberal hacks and only 1 show on network late night that is right wing. The same goes for most regular programing. When half of the country is leans conservative and half leans liberal, splitting half by 3 or 4 or 5 is always going to produce lower numbers than dividing half by 1, maybe 1.5 if you add Newsmax and OAN.
Fox. Newsmax. OAN. Brittbart. Damn near every am radiostation (especially in the afternoon)... etc. Yes the late night shows are dominated by left leaning individuals....which would be expected considering the arts and entertainment community are usually left leaning.

But lets not try to pretend that their isn't a fair share of right leaning talk show hosts and news personalities. Almost all cable programs are right leaning.

Bottom line. Conservatives tend to only get their news from a few selected sources while Liberals tend to choose from a variety of sources.

2️⃣ Platform Differences (Where they get news)​


🟥 Conservatives tend to:​


  • Watch more cable news, especially:
    • Fox News
  • Listen to more talk radio
  • Use Facebook more heavily for political news

🟦 Liberals tend to:​


  • Use a wider mix of sources
  • Consume more digital/online news
  • Use NPR and legacy newspapers more, including:
    • NPR
    • The New York Times
    • CNN
    • MSNBC



3️⃣ Audience Loyalty Differences​


This is where a real difference shows up:


  • Conservatives are more likely to rely heavily on one primary source (especially Fox News).
  • Liberals are more likely to consume multiple news brands.

Pew has found that a large percentage of consistent conservatives name Fox News as their main source, while liberals’ news diets are more fragmented.
 
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Cool well go ahead and get started cause we have the evidence right now.

What are you waiting on?

Why would they reach out to a known Pedophile for ANYTHING?
LOL what do you want me to do about it. Arrest Bill and Hillary.

I don't care who gets arrested. Arrest them all. Just stop pretending that Trump is a poor victim, an innocent bystander, a pathetic pawn in the game of politics so to speak.

I do find it interesting that the Clintons are willing to speak about Epstein but only publicly. And the Repubes are against that. Hmmm I wonder why?
 
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Fox. Newsmax. OAN. Brittbart. Damn near every am radiostation (especially in the afternoon)... etc. Yes the late night shows are dominated by left leaning individuals....which would be expected considering the arts and entertainment community are usually left leaning.

But lets not try to pretend that their isn't a fair share of right leaning talk show hosts and news personalities. Almost all cable programs are right leaning.

Bottom line. Conservatives tend to only get their news from a few selected sources while Liberals tend to choose from a variety of sources.

2️⃣ Platform Differences (Where they get news)​


🟥 Conservatives tend to:​


  • Watch more cable news, especially:
    • Fox News
  • Listen to more talk radio
  • Use Facebook more heavily for political news

🟦 Liberals tend to:​


  • Use a wider mix of sources
  • Consume more digital/online news
  • Use NPR and legacy newspapers more, including:
    • NPR
    • The New York Times
    • CNN
    • MSNBC



3️⃣ Audience Loyalty Differences​


This is where a real difference shows up:


  • Conservatives are more likely to rely heavily on one primary source (especially Fox News).
  • Liberals are more likely to consume multiple news brands.

Pew has found that a large percentage of consistent conservatives name Fox News as their main source, while liberals’ news diets are more fragmented.
We were talking about late night tv ratings and why Gutfeld was leading the way. If half the audience is liberal and half conservative, dividing 1/2 by 3 is going to give each show basically a third of the viewers. There is one conservative late night show, he is going to have higher numbers than the other three because he is alone. Then take into account his show is on at 10pm eastern and not 11:30 and that will increase the viewership even more.

I am not sure where the radio shows come into this discussion. Other than you had no argument for the late night TV shows so you decided to move the goal posts.

As far as my point on primetime or other shows on FoxNews vs MSNOW/CNN, those 2 are splitting their audience again. So Fox is going to out draw them because they are the only one in town. Newsmax and OAN are just a blip on the radar.

As far as liberals getting their news from multiple sources, ha ha ha that's funny. It is the same exact message on all the networks. There is no variety of opinion, unless it is Scott Jennings consistently making dems look silly.
 
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Why is it we can't talk about current issues or current administration without people bringing up people who are not in office anymore.

You honestly think besides immigration this administration has been America first and addressing affordability or price issues.

The corruption and bribing is out in the open and you don't care.
DING DING DING!
You are correct. THEY DON"T CARE! as long as he/they can own the libs...nothing else matters.

Trump Profiting Bigly. Read some where that he has made more money of the presidency (by a wide margin) than all of the previous presidents combined.


Reported Figures (Not Official Government Accounting)​


💰 ~$1.4 Billion in Personal Profit


• Multiple news outlets report that Trump’s personal businesses have earned roughly $1.4 billion during the first year of his second presidency from ventures tied to his brand — including licensing, crypto, media, and other business revenues. This is based on a New York Times–linked analysis of his economic activity.


🧾 ~$1.8 Billion in Cash & Gifts


• A tracker project called “Trump’s Take” — maintained by a progressive research group — estimates Trump and his family have collected more than $1.8 billion in cash and gifts since his 2024 election, including significant crypto-related gains.


💼 Billions in Net Worth Growth


• Reports from wealthy-individual tracking outlets like Forbes suggest Trump’s net worth increased by roughly $3 billion over a recent 12-month span, most of which occurred after he returned to the presidency — largely due to the surge in crypto-related assets and brand licensing deals.

📊 Approximate Total (2024–2025 Earnings)​


CategoryEstimated Amount
Crypto & Digital Asset Gains~$800 M to $1.4 B+
Golf/Hotels & Hospitality Revenue~$300 M–$450 M
Licensing/Merch & Other Income~$20 M–$60 M
Total Estimated Income~$1.1 B to $1.9 B+

This does not include unrealized asset appreciation (e.g., crypto holdings that haven’t been sold), which some reports estimate in the billions.
 

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Conservative crap always out shows the others. Conservatives tend to watch more news/tv and are much less likely to step outside of their bubble to watch/read any other viewpoints.
It's impressive how confident you are for someone who is wrong.

I'm going to link these studies now because:

a) I know you're too dumb & lazy to read them
b) I want everyone to see how stupid you are



and by the way, nobody is going to take you seriously when you copy/paste ChatGPT.
 
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We were talking about late night tv ratings and why Gutfeld was leading the way. If half the audience is liberal and half conservative, dividing 1/2 by 3 is going to give each show basically a third of the viewers. There is one conservative late night show, he is going to have higher numbers than the other three because he is alone. Then take into account his show is on at 10pm eastern and not 11:30 and that will increase the viewership even more.

I am not sure where the radio shows come into this discussion. Other than you had no argument for the late night TV shows so you decided to move the goal posts.

As far as my point on primetime or other shows on FoxNews vs MSNOW/CNN, those 2 are splitting their audience again. So Fox is going to out draw them because they are the only one in town. Newsmax and OAN are just a blip on the radar.

As far as liberals getting their news from multiple sources, ha ha ha that's funny. It is the same exact message on all the networks. There is no variety of opinion, unless it is Scott Jennings consistently making dems look silly.
So with this argument it would then make sense to say that there is a direct reason that Gutfeld has more viewers than the other three. And that his time slot allows for even more viewers. I guess I'm not really seeing what your point is. I thought you were trying to say that the other 3 were poor hosts proven by their lower viewership. Than you go on to say Gutfeld has a statistical advantage.

I'm not following your argument in totality.

I brought up the other sources, not to move the goal post but to show that their are indeed a lot of conservative outlets that have a solid following of listeners or viewers. My thought was that you were trying to say that the conservatives don't have a fair share of avenues to get their info.

The same message ='s tried and true methods of triangulating information.

Keep in mind that Fox paid out a large sum (780B) for defamation and inaccuracies. And then wen't on to claim that their news is for entertainment purposes only and therefor should not be viewed through a lens of accurate news reporting. That's the source that you and others claim to be fair, balanced and accurate? all the while saying that the MSM is lying and manipulating the truth and that they shouldn't be believed because what...They are all reporting virtually the same information? Come on now!
 

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Keep in mind that Fox paid out a large sum (780B) for defamation and inaccuracies.
no they didn't.

ChatGPT doesn't do well with numbers, you need to double-check your data.

Also:




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It's impressive how confident you are for someone who is wrong.

I'm going to link these studies now because:

a) I know you're too dumb & lazy to read them
b) I want everyone to see how stupid you are



and by the way, nobody is going to take you seriously when you copy/paste ChatGPT.
I always find it interesting when people claim that listing your sources makes you less believable, while they go on to list their sources. lol You do realize that Chat GPT and other AI entities pull their info from the same places you wen't out and had to search for. You do get this don't you?

A psych article from 2009 before Trumpism/MAGA took birth is irrelevant to this discussion. Bottom line...America is in a different place all together after the Trump malignancy took root.

"Conclusion Western societies are growing more diverse, and with diversity comes differing ideals about how best to regulate selfishness and about how we ought to live together. Participants in political debates are motivated in part by moral convictions. Moral foundations theory offers a useful way to conceptualize and measure such convictions. As research on political psychology thrives (Jost, 2006), we hope that it will clarify the role that morality plays in political thought and behavior". (WELL NO ****)

2nd article

"The results of this analysis are striking. Of the 13 forms of media consumption habits we surveyed, only one (network news) is associated with a lower Perception Gap. Several (CNN, MSNBC, certain religious news sources, the Wall Street Journal and the Washington Times) have no statistically significant effect, and the rest (9 in total) are positively associated with the Perception Gap. For example, the Perception Gap of those who do not regularly consume Fox News is 20 percentage points. The additional Perception Gap of consuming Fox News is +4 percentage points—a proportional increase of 20 percent. This effect is even more pronounced for left-leaning sources like Slate, Buzzfeed, Daily Kos, and the Huffington Post, non-readers of which have an average Perception Gap of 20 percentage points, but whose readers can expect an additional Perception Gap of +8: a proportional increase of 40 percent. But the media sources consistently associated with the largest Perception Gap (NOT GOOD) are the right-leaning sources Breitbart News, the Drudge Report, and conservative talk radio (e.g., Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity). While, again, people who do not consume these forms of media can expect an average Perception Gap of about 20 percentage points, those who do consume them show an average of +11, +11, and +9 percentage point increase in the Perception Gap, respectively: roughly equivalent to a 50 percent proportional increase. On the other hand, the media associated with a clear reduction in Perception Gaps are the television network channels ABC, CBS and NBC. Consumers of content from these sources are on average 6 percentage points more accurate in their perceptions than other Americans. Aside from this, ironically the only other type of media consumption associated with more accuracy is “None of the above." People who consume no media are, on average, 2 percentage points more accurate than those who do" (Not sure this says what you want it to say) Of course not sure what point you were really trying to make either so do tell.
 
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I always find it interesting when people claim that listing your sources makes you less believable, while they go on to list their sources. lol You do realize that Chat GPT and other AI entities pull their info from the same places you wen't out and had to search for. You do get this don't you?

A psych article from 2009 before Trumpism/MAGA took birth is irrelevant to this discussion. Bottom line...America is in a different place all together after the Trump malignancy took root.

"Conclusion Western societies are growing more diverse, and with diversity comes differing ideals about how best to regulate selfishness and about how we ought to live together. Participants in political debates are motivated in part by moral convictions. Moral foundations theory offers a useful way to conceptualize and measure such convictions. As research on political psychology thrives (Jost, 2006), we hope that it will clarify the role that morality plays in political thought and behavior". (WELL NO ****)

2nd article

"The results of this analysis are striking. Of the 13 forms of media consumption habits we surveyed, only one (network news) is associated with a lower Perception Gap. Several (CNN, MSNBC, certain religious news sources, the Wall Street Journal and the Washington Times) have no statistically significant effect, and the rest (9 in total) are positively associated with the Perception Gap. For example, the Perception Gap of those who do not regularly consume Fox News is 20 percentage points. The additional Perception Gap of consuming Fox News is +4 percentage points—a proportional increase of 20 percent. This effect is even more pronounced for left-leaning sources like Slate, Buzzfeed, Daily Kos, and the Huffington Post, non-readers of which have an average Perception Gap of 20 percentage points, but whose readers can expect an additional Perception Gap of +8: a proportional increase of 40 percent. But the media sources consistently associated with the largest Perception Gap (NOT GOOD) are the right-leaning sources Breitbart News, the Drudge Report, and conservative talk radio (e.g., Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity). While, again, people who do not consume these forms of media can expect an average Perception Gap of about 20 percentage points, those who do consume them show an average of +11, +11, and +9 percentage point increase in the Perception Gap, respectively: roughly equivalent to a 50 percent proportional increase. On the other hand, the media associated with a clear reduction in Perception Gaps are the television network channels ABC, CBS and NBC. Consumers of content from these sources are on average 6 percentage points more accurate in their perceptions than other Americans. Aside from this, ironically the only other type of media consumption associated with more accuracy is “None of the above." People who consume no media are, on average, 2 percentage points more accurate than those who do" (Not sure this says what you want it to say) Of course not sure what point you were really trying to make either so do tell.
Nope, it's 100% relevant, and the second study reinforces the first.

But you didn't make it past page 6, so you wouldn't know that.

Take your time and step out of your bubble, princess.
 
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So with this argument it would then make sense to say that there is a direct reason that Gutfeld has more viewers than the other three. And that his time slot allows for even more viewers. I guess I'm not really seeing what your point is. I thought you were trying to say that the other 3 were poor hosts proven by their lower viewership. Than you go on to say Gutfeld has a statistical advantage.

I'm not following your argument in totality.

I brought up the other sources, not to move the goal post but to show that their are indeed a lot of conservative outlets that have a solid following of listeners or viewers. My thought was that you were trying to say that the conservatives don't have a fair share of avenues to get their info.

The same message ='s tried and true methods of triangulating information.

Keep in mind that Fox paid out a large sum (780B) for defamation and inaccuracies. And then wen't on to claim that their news is for entertainment purposes only and therefor should not be viewed through a lens of accurate news reporting. That's the source that you and others claim to be fair, balanced and accurate? all the while saying that the MSM is lying and manipulating the truth and that they shouldn't be believed because what...They are all reporting virtually the same information? Come on now!
The ratings are low because you have a saturated market with 3 guys basically saying the same thing in their monologues provided to them by the DNC. Then they rotate guests that all have the same level of hatred for conservatives.

When you only have 1/2 of the adults that are interested in what they have to say to start with, then you basically divide that limited group by 3, there is no way to maintain enough viewership and sponsors to pay all three $10's of millions per year along with the increased production costs. It is estimated that Colbert was losing $40 million per year, Kimmell basically started losing money in 2023, Fallon is losing the least, but still not profitable. Then you have Gutfeld's show that keeps production costs at about $20 mil per year, his salary is $7 mil per year, but he is on multiple shows. Compared to the other 3 shows, who have production costs in the $100 million range and salaries in the $15-20 million range.

That is how a conservative cable talk show can financially outperform and have more viewers than each of the 3 liberal late night shows. Soon to be 2shows in May 2026.
 
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