Yeah this is the talking point most of media uses, ignoring that she has half a million followers because of ESPN and uses it mostly for their business. They know if they took, oh 3 minutes, and spun up a separate account and stated zero ESPN stuff would be on there she would get almost no followers. They know what they are doing. I also know what would happen to me if I used my linkedin account to call large groups of people slurs.
Yeah this is the talking point most of media uses, ignoring that she has half a million followers because of ESPN and uses it mostly for their business. They know if they took, oh 3 minutes, and spun up a separate account and stated zero ESPN stuff would be on there she would get almost no followers. They know what they are doing. I also know what would happen to me if I used my linkedin account to call large groups of people slurs.
You would think by now these outlets would wise up and leave politics out of their conversations. If she wants to say things like that and be an on-air personality then go to CNN and be one of their mouthpieces. I watched ESPN because of sports. Not to listen to a bunch of blowhards about their political or other non-sport opinions.
I'm pretty sure this is mostly by design. We are talking about ESPN, people are giving them hits/replies and the more we discuss their employees then we're not talking about their competition.
She ought to be gone, but they will do the PC thing and put her on double secret probation
Are your Mountain Dew teeth hurting you again? You seem very agitated.
Not true.
noun: slander
- 1.
the action or crime of making a false spoken statement damaging to a person's reputation.
"he is suing the TV network for slander"- a false and malicious spoken statement.
Oh, and ESPN apologized for her.
She mentions ESPN like 3 times before you get to her tweets...
...that are only read by thousands because she works for Disney...
...who makes money off those who click on her tweets...
Like you said, if this was a personal account it would be PERSONAL.
Couple of things, first ESPN needs to focus on good sports journalism and quit trying to be jack of all trades. That's why I turn on ESPN, to watch sports and hear stories about sports. If I want to hear about politics or other social issues, then I'll go over to a mainstream news site or Facebook.
Second, so Curt Schilling voices his more "conservative" views and gets fired yet Hill seemingly gets smacked on the back of the hand. Bit of a double standard here?
Second, so Curt Schilling voices his more "conservative" views and gets fired yet Hill seemingly gets smacked on the back of the hand. Bit of a double standard here?
She is terrible at talking about sports and should be fired for that reason. As far as her Twitter goes...she was spot on. It's pretty sad when white people get called out on their ******** and then act like they are above black people questioning them, which in itself is racist.
They hurt biggly? You haven't been this mad since you yelled at me for being mean to the Nazis.
What exactly was she spot on about? And you're last statement is utter BS, in fact it is racist in and of itself. You are pointing the finger at white people, and then claiming only black people oppose a view point. Can you not see how absurd that is?
So, you think her questioning is above questioning? Wow. You "acted stupidly" on that one.
I mean, if you want to try and debate whether someone's individual stance is right or wrong, take that up with them. But rightness or wrongness doesn't necessarily equate to someone being allowed to hold a private opinion. That can't be the standard.
If she had said it on the air, or on stage at an ESPN event or something, that's different. I don't think Capitol Records needs to clarify that it disagrees with what one of its artists says in a song. Let her apologize if she wants, let her deal with the blowback online, let her further address it on her twitter account, etc., but it wasn't related to her job and wasn't while she was working, so ESPN bears no responsibility for it.
Now, if they want to decide that the outrage created is significant enough that it will cost them viewers or revenue or whatever, they can encourage her to get out in front of it. Or if it does ultimately destroy her ratings/career/credibility, then they can let her go. But no one actually thinks ESPN holds all of the views of its independent personalities simultaneously.
If she had said it on the air, or on stage at an ESPN event or something, that's different. I don't think Capitol Records needs to clarify that it disagrees with what one of its artists says in a song. Let her apologize if she wants, let her deal with the blowback online, let her further address it on her twitter account, etc., but it wasn't related to her job and wasn't while she was working, so ESPN bears no responsibility for it.
Now, if they want to decide that the outrage created is significant enough that it will cost them viewers or revenue or whatever, they can encourage her to get out in front of it. Or if it does ultimately destroy her ratings/career/credibility, then they can let her go. But no one actually thinks ESPN holds all of the views of its independent personalities simultaneously.
Also, it's not "racist" for her to claim he's surrounded himself with those people. Nor is it racist for her to question whether the reason he's able to do that is because of support from a large contingent of supporters who agree with those views.
Whether it's true or not is up for discussion, but it doesn't make someone racist to feel that way about the situation. It wasn't racist for Gandhi to believe the Indian people were treated unfairly by the British government.
Whether it's true or not is up for discussion, but it doesn't make someone racist to feel that way about the situation. It wasn't racist for Gandhi to believe the Indian people were treated unfairly by the British government.
lol and you ended your argument with the second sentence of the first paragraph, fyi.
I am seething because of your tremendous wit. You are so wise. Just like Madame President Rodham-Clinton-Abedin.
Is it possible for her to be racist?
What would get you to that point?
You need to stop digging.
Is it racist for me to imagine her cooch looking like a horses mouth?
I personally don't care what anyone says, however, it's about ESPN being consistent.
Is the standard going to be that someone is let go if they express a view? Or is the standard going to be your employer releasing an "apology" for what you wrote while reminding the people "we've talked to them".
Much like the NCAA, I only want to see consistency.
Is the standard going to be that someone is let go if they express a view? Or is the standard going to be your employer releasing an "apology" for what you wrote while reminding the people "we've talked to them".
Much like the NCAA, I only want to see consistency.
The issue people have here isn't so much what she said, it's the blatantly obvious double standard thats becoming the norm. It's absurd.
They enable some and punish others (even punish some for pointing out the double standard) and you are ok with that because they punish the ones you don't like, bottomline. A very common undertone to liberalism is wanting separate standards due to the belief of being more evolved.
Like I said, ESPN and others could force their personalities to have two different social media accounts but they don't so the argument of this being personal business and opinion is stupid.
Yes. If she said something disparaging or hateful about a group of people based only on their race. Calling them a white supremacist is based on behavior, actions and patterns, not race. White supremacist isn't a racial slur. It's a political ideology. It's like if she called them a communist.
I don't need to stop anything. I'm only "digging a hole" to people who are "mad" that an ESPN anchor shared her political views on twitter and they disagree with which party she votes for. Spare me.
Who gives a ****? Really. Why does anyone care what the hell she says about Trump?
Does anyone actually watch her show?
You can find plenty of sports news and information various places on the internet. There are plenty of places you can discuss various teams and leagues with people who enjoy the same sports/leagues/teams/etc and never mention politics. You don't need the Bud Light Subway Hotline Take of the evening.
It's not like she was rambling about Trump being a racist or something during a UK game. There's absolutely zero reason to watch anything but live sports, and possibly some of the documentaries on ESPN. So who gives a **** what she says in any forum? Just ignore her.
Does anyone actually watch her show?
You can find plenty of sports news and information various places on the internet. There are plenty of places you can discuss various teams and leagues with people who enjoy the same sports/leagues/teams/etc and never mention politics. You don't need the Bud Light Subway Hotline Take of the evening.
It's not like she was rambling about Trump being a racist or something during a UK game. There's absolutely zero reason to watch anything but live sports, and possibly some of the documentaries on ESPN. So who gives a **** what she says in any forum? Just ignore her.
Calling someone a WHITE supremacist, is using race as a weapon to inflict scorn on someone. There is zero proof, other than being white, that anyone in Trump's cabinet is a white supremacist. She doesn't like them, so she is using race to try and belittle them. That is textbook racism.
Like I posted earlier, I really don't care what she says, if thats her opinion I'm glad to know it now. However, the double standard is ridiculous, and is dangerous for the overall stability of the nation.
I thought this was the Paddocks where general subjects are discussed. If it was about Obama you would have been enraged. Silly me, I forgot, you generally try to lie or deflect, in this case, deflect. Carry on.
Why? How are words by TV personalities, responses by employers that dangerous if we believe in the first amendment?
Discussed ad nauseam. Several ESPN people like Linda Cohn have spoken out, why haven't you listened? This is like the 30th of these threads and there seems to be no amount of evidence you are willing to believe.
Remember guys, we're talking about a company that preemptively removed an Asian man from a broadcast booth at a Virginia football game because he shares the name of a Confederate general who died over 100 years ago.
They are reeling, both in finances and PR. They had zero chance of getting this right.
They are reeling, both in finances and PR. They had zero chance of getting this right.
Are you able to fully utilize the first amendment on your job? Again, stupid argument.
Ask the ESPN employees who have been fired for sharing opinions on public platforms.