OT: ESPN apologizes for Jemele Hill's tweets

[qwesley]

And this is where a lot of us disagree. That might make a nice pretext for the decision to keep her, but it's not the reality.

When they were running a promo for that show (every 5 mins btw) at one point she makes a remark of "not sticking to sports" that they later took out.

Go google Will Cain, a reasonable new guy for them who is also a lawyer, getting into a heated discussion with SAS and Max K about Kaep. It speaks to the insanity of their hot takes.

 

[ndk_rivals308474]

When they were running a promo for that show (every 5 mins btw) at one point she makes a remark of "not sticking to sports" that they later took out.

Go google Will Cain, a reasonable new guy for them who is also a lawyer, getting into a heated discussion with SAS and Max K about Kaep. It speaks to the insanity of their hot takes.

"Sticking to sports" is not the issue. Gonzo and I were replying with regard to the specific issue of ESPN firing Curt Schilling but not Hill

 

[mash_24]

I don't care what she says. But the breathtaking ingratitude and arrogance she displays annoys me. She's a fat, not particularly attractive loud mouth with no special talent making in the mid-six figures a year. Why? Because she fills an affirmative action niche at a network concerned, with some justification, with the racial and gender make-up of its on air readers. Good for her.

But is she grateful for basically winning the lottery of those in this country overcompensated for meager abilities? No. She has to pepper every conversation with talk of 'white privilege.' Who in the hell is more privileged, with less reason to be, than her?

This is a perfect response to any discussion about Jemele Hill. Kudos

 

[JamesLee]

When the ESPN layoffs were going on, Jemele Hill was specifically pointed out by several people online as someone who did not deserve to keep her job when so many other good journalists were getting kicked to the curb. Not because of her gender, race, height, weight, political POV, high school GPA or any other factor other than the fact that anyone who has watched her on ESPN for more than a minute will ask how the hell she ever even got her job. She doesn't know what she's talking about 99% of the time. She does not bring any sort of insight or validity in her arguments when on shows like Around the Horn or OTL. The show "The 6" that took over the 6pm Sportscenter is so out of place for ESPN, it's unwatchable.

Linda Cohn, suspended for honestly answering a question regarding whether talking politics has affected ESPN subscriptions. Curt Schilling, let go for an inappropriate remark about transgenders in bathrooms. I agree with ESPN letting go of Schilling. I do not agree with Cohn being suspended. The issue, among any political reason is that Jemele Hill made a politically and emotionally charged remark about Trump. Yes, it's her personal twitter account. But how many people have been passed up on a job opportunity because of their social media? Crazy drugs/drinking related instagram photos, tweets involving every cuss word out there, comments on FB towards others that are socially unacceptable. People have lost their jobs over things much smaller than Jemele's tweet. Yeah, Jemele absolutely has the right to tweet that about our President. But what always gets overlooked about the First Amendment is that it does not make you immune to any repercussions or consequences. When people throw out the First Amendment, all of a sudden they turn in to Ricky Bobby and think because they said "with all due respect" before their statement that they can say or do whatever they want without any consequences.

She should be suspended without pay at minimum with a strong potential of being fired. Given the platform she has been handed by ESPN and the number of people she can reach out to through her social media BECAUSE of her position at ESPN, she absolutely has to understand that anything she says on her personal twitter account becomes associated with the network and puts them at risk. Any executive at ESPN should understand this.

 

[dvillecatfan]

Can't believe so many are bothered by what someone on ESPN says/tweets. whether its Schilling or Hill, i cant understand why, what one of them says/tweets bothers some of you. Myself, i don't like Clay Travis. Won't stop me from listening to or watching a game on fox.

 

[JamesLee]

Can't believe so many are bothered by what someone on ESPN says/tweets. whether its Schilling or Hill, i cant understand why, what one of them says/tweets bothers some of you. Myself, i don't like Clay Travis. Won't stop me from listening to or watching a game on fox.

For me, it's more about seeing some journalists fired/suspended while seeing others being praised (by athletes and celebrities associated with ESPN) and suffer no consequences from the same network. I keep hearing about "equality" but in situations like this I'm told that it's different and that I could never understand. To me that seems like just an easy way to pass the buck. I am 100% for equality but that right, just as it's definition states, needs to be the same across the board.

 

[qwesley]

"Sticking to sports" is not the issue. Gonzo and I were replying with regard to the specific issue of ESPN firing Curt Schilling but not Hill

yeah, I was just pointing out how she is actually trying to use that platform for political stuff. Agree with your point.

 

[GonzoCat90]

Lazy opinion and why they are facing the issues they are. You simply want them spewing their garbage because you like it. If they had 20 Curt Shillings you would have a different tune.

Except I said above once I learned that he was fired for a facebook post that he shouldn't have been let go either. It's also a gigantically awful assumption that I like anything Jemele Hill has to say about anything. For the fifth time, whether I agree or the person is "right" has nothing to do with it.

If they say offensive things on air, fair game. But on their own social media? That's their own voice, not the company. It's literally impossible for ESPN to own or adopt or whatever word you'd like to use, every view held by every employee privately. There's zero need for them to apologize on behalf of anything said by one of their employees when not in a company role.

If they break a law or attack someone in the company personally, handle that. But someone's private political views aren't reflective of their company. But Schilling made the left mad and Hill made the right mad and so statements have to be issued so both sides can imagine they won the pretend debate that day.

It's hypocritical for them to have fired him and not her, though I think money/branding had more to do with that then race. If she was a minor player, I think this gets handled differently.

 

[jameslee32]

Liberalism is the disease that is tearing this country apart. There are different rules for those infected by this terrible affliction. They are allowed to promote hate against anyone who disagrees with their sinister plans & ideas. Luckily, for the nation, the voters saw thru this deviance, & chose the person who is most capable of curing this mental illness.

[roll]

 

[qwesley]

private political views

They list her and others twitter handle under their names, her twitter bio says she is host of SC. It is not private. You can keep pretending it is but that does not make it true. Easy to say you would take up for Schilling now.

You are somewhat of a public person as a teacher. Your Facebook page is personal. Do you have complete protection to say what you want on that forum even w/o any info linking you to your job?

 

[jameslee32]

Dude, I wrote that I don't think she needs to be fired. What irks me, and I'd bet everyone in this thread is the double standard in the media and entertainment industry.

Wrong is wrong, it doesn't matter if a straight white guy says it, a gay puerto rican, or a black female sportshow host says it. Handle them all the same way, it's really not that difficult to follow.

I think you're making something dangerous that isn't necessarily dangerous. Is it asinine? Ludacris? Sure. But no more than the reaction. Radicals are best left ignored unless violence comes into play.

 

[PhattyJ4UK_rivals309166]

The only thing that makes me angry is your racist agenda. You hate white people.

Unless they cover up sexual assault, then ol keyser absolutely loves them. See art briles and Hillary Clinton.

Yeah, it's evident that I hate white people by saying this thread didn't belong on the basketball board. After saying that, the trash on this site who allows BS politics to rule their life came back with Hillary Clinton, Obama, uninformed, and you hate white people. That's the level of stupid that we're dealing with here. Y'all like to say triggered, what do you call it when you get those responses from saying a political post doesn't belong on the basketball board? Oh well, you're clearly too stupid and ate up with your politics to use sound reasoning and judgement.

Lol, if you look back thru the political thread, I would guarantee that an outsider would see your posts as top 3 immature, trashy, uninformed and just plain ol child like. I mean you're on this thread right now calling a veteran "mountain dew teeth". Not only is that ridiculous but it's incredibly 13 year oldish.

 

[Big John Stud]

The best thing about Smarmy Leftist is their assumption that everyone that disagrees with them is stupid.

My family had soldiers at the Battle of the Bulge. Never defended a Nazi in my life other than saying even they have First Admendment rights.

What exactly do we disagree with here moron? I said this post doesn't belong on a basketball board and you decided to come at me, that's how stupid you are. That's how ate up with your politics you are.

 

[qwesley]

I guess I just find it funny to see UK fans taking up for John Skipper and preferential treatment he has created/protected. Maybe you guys could send in for honorary UNC degrees.

 

[Big John Stud]

Unless they cover up sexual assault, then ol keyser absolutely loves them. See art briles and Hillary Clinton.



Lol, if you look back thru the political thread, I would guarantee that an outsider would see your posts as top 3 immature, trashy, uninformed and just plain ol child like. I mean you're on this thread right now calling a veteran "mountain dew teeth". Not only is that ridiculous but it's incredibly 13 year oldish.

Oh, because I won't allow myself to be bullied by some moronic wannabe bullies obsessed with theor polotics? Let me repeat this since you clowns don't seem to get it, I said this post doesn't belong on a basketball board and you guys came at me. Just like last time when I told 1 person who said the Charlottesville murder where dude ran over that girl wasn't an accident, then you clown got super mad and came at me crying that I always take the left's side. I called a piece of trash who came at me Moutain Dew teeth after he came at me. Lol at your BS sob story, how do you attack another person, then start crying when they respond?

 

[Big John Stud]

LOL, you can't even stay with the point. Given your incoherent babble earlier I can understand why.

The point was this thread didn't belong on the basketball board, your triggered *** had a problem with that. Again, stop crying, you started this.

 

[Bill Derington]

I think you're making something dangerous that isn't necessarily dangerous. Is it asinine? Ludacris? Sure. But no more than the reaction. Radicals are best left ignored unless violence comes into play.

You still aren't understanding what I was writing.

 

[warrior-cat]

The point was this thread didn't belong on the basketball board, your triggered *** had a problem with that. Again, stop crying, you started this.

No, you attacked other people in this thread pointing out the hypocrisy of the left (the norm for you) and can't keep up with the points being made. That and your incoherent postings only show that you lack the intelligence to follow the subject matter. You should change your sig to Geyser Soso.

 

[Big John Stud]

No, you attacked other people in this thread pointing out the hypocrisy of the left (the norm for you) and can't keep up with the points being made. That and your incoherent postings only show that you lack the intelligence to follow the subject matter. You should change your sig to Geyser Soso.

You are dumber than I thought. Me saying, "What does this have to do with Kentucky Basketball" is attacking other people pointing out the hypocrisy of the left? Lol, OK flipping moron, if you say so.

 

[TortElvisII]

I like Mountain Dew teeth. Funny.

 

[TortElvisII]

You are dumber than I thought. Me saying, "What does this have to do with Kentucky Basketball" is attacking other people pointing out the hypocrisy of the left? Lol, OK flipping moron, if you say so.

Jemele Hill is anti UK, Cal, and the fanbase. Somewhat relevant.

 

[PhattyJ4UK_rivals309166]

Oh, because I won't allow myself to be bullied by some moronic wannabe bullies obsessed with theor polotics? Let me repeat this since you clowns don't seem to get it, I said this post doesn't belong on a basketball board and you guys came at me. Just like last time when I told 1 person who said the Charlottesville murder where dude ran over that girl wasn't an accident, then you clown got super mad and came at me crying that I always take the left's side. I called a piece of trash who came at me Moutain Dew teeth after he came at me. Lol at your BS sob story, how do you attack another person, then start crying when they respond?

English please.

I haven't attacked you at all for saying anything about basketball board. And I won't. I'm only talking about your history as one of the worst posters on this site. You bash people for things that you do ten time worse.

There is actually some decent discussion on the pol thread, until people like you come along.

Quite honesty, you should be given a lengthy ban for the numerous personal insults you hve called people on this very thread.


Put the sauce down while you post. It's a bad look. And stop sticking up for people who cover up sexual assault. It's also a bad look.

 

[Big John Stud]

They stay mad

Jemele Hill is anti UK, Cal, and the fanbase. Somewhat relevant.

No, not relevant to UK basketball at all.

 

[PhattyJ4UK_rivals309166]

They stay mad

No, not relevant to UK basketball at all.

I guess you can't even remember a few years back. Too much sauce.


Jemele(wtf kinda name is that) was forced to apologize to Kentucky fans for her insults.

 

[Big John Stud]

English please.

I haven't attacked you at all for saying anything about basketball board. And I won't. I'm only talking about your history as one of the worst posters on this site. You bash people for things that you do ten time worse.

There is actually some decent discussion on the pol thread, until people like you come along.

Quite honesty, you should be given a lengthy ban for the numerous personal insults you hve called people on this very thread.


Put the sauce down while you post. It's a bad look. And stop sticking up for people who cover up sexual assault. It's also a bad look.

No, you didnt say anything, you're never man enough to. You come in, piggyback and try to gang up on others. I'm gonna type this slowly since you didn't get it the first 3 times, I said this post didn't belong on the basketball board, then I was attacked, oh and here you are too. What specific issue do you have or are you a loser just trying to feel like you're a part of something?

 

[Big John Stud]

I guess you can't even remember a few years back. Too much sauce.


Jemele(wtf kinda name is that) was forced to apologize to Kentucky fans for her insults.

Oh, ok... Well I guess her unrelated comments are relevant to UK basketball then. My bad for thinking debating a political topic on a basketball board was not appropriate. Maybe next we can tackle abortion on the basketball board since all fetuses are potential recruits. Should be fun.

 

[catlanta33]

Oh, ok... Well I guess her unrelated comments are relevant to UK basketball then. My bad for thinking debating a political topic on a basketball board was not appropriate. Maybe next we can tackle abortion on the basketball board since all fetuses are potential recruits. Should be fun.

Are you on the spectrum?

 

[Big John Stud]

Are you on the spectrum?

Yup, thinking political topics are inappropriate for the basketball board is a clear sign of autism and being racist. Gotta love the political board.

 

[kevcat]

So, you think her questioning is above questioning? Wow. You "acted stupidly" on that one.

Oh my God. Obama is the biggest racist president in history by a mile. If an ESPN employee would have tweeted this fact, they would have been fired and brought up on felony charges.

How can anyone say this racist, piece of trash, talentless, worthless loser Jemele Hill shouldn't be fired?

Wow!

 

[jameslee32]

You still aren't understanding what I was writing.

Sure I do Bill. It's hypocritical but the dangerous part for our country would be to react with violence instead of talking about it. So the only REAL danger in her tweets could be for her personal safety down the road. Thus is my reaction to your dangerous assertion.

 

[TortElvisII]

Yup, thinking political topics are inappropriate for the basketball board is a clear sign of autism and being racist. Gotta love the political board.

You could ask why aren't you 50 points ahead?

 

[thabigbluenation]

Yup, thinking political topics are inappropriate for the basketball board is a clear sign of autism and being racist. Gotta love the political board.

dude you are the crappy keyser Soze, out of respect to the real @Kaizer Sosay, you need to change your user name.

 

[kevcat]

You could ask why aren't you 50 points ahead?

Keyser Soso is a loser. No reason to spend time debating a pos like him/her.

 

[Big John Stud]

dude you are the crappy keyser Soze, out of respect to the real @Kaizer Sosay, you need to change your user name.

Dude and crappy huh? You fit in well here Tommy Boy.

 

[Big John Stud]

Again, my apologies to the butthurt, saying a political post doesn't belong on the basketball was wrong and hurtful. I now see how many people it hurt. It brought the whole herd of sheep out.

 

[Big John Stud]

Keyser Soso is a loser. No reason to spend time debating a pos like him/her.

We're not debating doofus, they're mad that I said a political post doesn't belong on the basketball board. There has been zero debate here. Keep up.

 

[PhattyJ4UK_rivals309166]

Oh, ok... Well I guess her unrelated comments are relevant to UK basketball then. My bad for thinking debating a political topic on a basketball board was not appropriate. Maybe next we can tackle abortion on the basketball board since all fetuses are potential recruits. Should be fun.

Girl, just shut up. No one is talking about you saying it doesn't belong on the BBALL Board. You're right, for the first time ever. But no one is even talking about that.


We're talking about your history of suck. Your suck in this very thread. Your suck in life.


Seriously, why would a person continue to visit a place where not a single person likes her?

 

[thabigbluenation]

Dude and crappy huh? You fit in well here Tommy Boy.

don't disrespect Tommy Boy. you are crossing lines and I ain't Obama. that mess won't ride here. if I used the words i intended, your would have reported me and cause a timeout in my foreseeable future. quit disrespecting the real Kaizer.

 

[catlanta33]

Yup, thinking political topics are inappropriate for the basketball board is a clear sign of autism and being racist. Gotta love the political board.

This is the general discussion forum. Furthermore, why do you feel entitled to tell people what should and shouldn't be posted?

 

[Big John Stud]

Girl, just shut up. No one is talking about you saying it doesn't belong on the BBALL Board. You're right, for the first time ever. But no one is even talking about that.


We're talking about your history of suck. Your suck in this very thread. Your suck in life.


Seriously, why would a person continue to visit a place where not a single person likes her?

I'll type this again slowly, this was on the basketball board, I said it didn't belong on the basketball board. Naturally this triggered you and the other trash who post here who cant see past their politics. They came at me babbling nonsense, I responded. Do you get it, I responded to people who came at me. So now im sorry for saying political posts don't belong on the basketball board, and I'm sorry for defending myself since that upsets you too.