OT: EVs

[Maroon13]

Had the pleasure of driving a 2025 Mustang Mach E GT. It is a fun car while driving. Fast, very fast. Neat bells and whistles like blue cruise. However I would never own one.

They are to impractical because of the charging. We did have a charger at the hotel but it was 6.6 Kw. So it took all night to charge to 80-90%. I found a fast charging station. $20 for 80% charge (200 mile range) and it took 40 minutes to get there. Also, that sure was a quick 200 miles. Maybe because of cold weather. I'm not sure it made 200 miles before I was at 10% battery life.

I gusss all these people that have Teslas (I don't see many mach e on the road) have 220v charging at home. Otherwise a ev is terribly inefficient on one's time.

 

[HailStout]

Had the pleasure of driving a 2025 Mustang Mach E GT. It is a fun car while driving. Fast, very fast. Neat bells and whistles like blue cruise. However I would never own one.

They are to impractical because of the charging. We did have a charger at the hotel but it was 6.6 Kw. So it took all night to charge to 80-90%. I found a fast charging station. $20 for 80% charge (200 mile range) and it took 40 minutes to get there. Also, that sure was a quick 200 miles. Maybe because of cold weather. I'm not sure it made 200 miles before I was at 10% battery life.

I gusss all these people that have Teslas (I don't see many mach e on the road) have 220v charging at home. Otherwise a ev is terribly inefficient on one's time.

That’s the key for them catching on fully in America. Once someone figures out a way to charge them in 5 minutes? Then they will sell like crazy.

 

[aTotal360]

Need more hybrid options.

 

[jethreauxdawg]

The one time I rented one, all the chargers near the airport were occupied by parked gas burning vehicles. Eventually, I just returned the car as it was, but never got charged for “fill up”.
they are fast. Fun rental

 

[T-TownDawgg]

Mercedes battery plant in AL is down to a skeleton crew. Times be a changing. What a waste.

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

That’s the key for them catching on fully in America. Once someone figures out a way to charge them in 5 minutes? Then they will sell like crazy.

The thing that needs to catch on in America is updating our power grid first. Between EV growth and AI growth our power system is not in a good place.

 

[Yeti]

That range sounds like my Grenadier

 

[horshack.sixpack]

Had the pleasure of driving a 2025 Mustang Mach E GT. It is a fun car while driving. Fast, very fast. Neat bells and whistles like blue cruise. However I would never own one.

They are to impractical because of the charging. We did have a charger at the hotel but it was 6.6 Kw. So it took all night to charge to 80-90%. I found a fast charging station. $20 for 80% charge (200 mile range) and it took 40 minutes to get there. Also, that sure was a quick 200 miles. Maybe because of cold weather. I'm not sure it made 200 miles before I was at 10% battery life.

I gusss all these people that have Teslas (I don't see many mach e on the road) have 220v charging at home. Otherwise a ev is terribly inefficient on one's time.

They do not fit my driving patterns or patience level. My anecdotal evidence is that I often stay at a Hampton in Nashville that has a number of Tesla chargers. I've never stayed there when I didn't see multiple Teslas lined up charging that were not guests of the hotel. I come/go several times and see the same guy/car sitting for a long time on their phone in the car just waiting to get charged up enough to do whatever they need to do next. I get antsy if I'm more than one person back for a gas pump...

 

[BoDawg.sixpack]

Ford can't sell the F-150 lightnings. You can get 12k dollars off MSRP. All of these charging times and range estimates are best case scenario and the real world usage is different than what manufacturers advertise.

 

[horshack.sixpack]

That’s the key for them catching on fully in America. Once someone figures out a way to charge them in 5 minutes? Then they will sell like crazy.

Infrastructure that supports in road charging while driving would be a big step. I've seen some trials like that, but can't imagine a maintenance cycle that makes that feasible anytime soon.

 

[BoDawg.sixpack]

The thing that needs to catch on in America is updating our power grid first. Between EV growth and AI growth our power system is not in a good place.

This AI growth has basically solidified fossil fuels as being a permanent part of America's energy infrastructure.

 

[aTotal360]

They do not fit my driving patterns or patience level. My anecdotal evidence is that I often stay at a Hampton in Nashville that has a number of Tesla chargers. I've never stayed there when I didn't see multiple Teslas lined up charging that were not guests of the hotel. I come/go several times and see the same guy/car sitting for a long time on their phone in the car just waiting to get charged up enough to do whatever they need to do next. I get antsy if I'm more than one person back for a gas pump...

I'm with you about the gas pumps. Just thinking about having to charge a car gives me anxiety.

 

[Dawgzilla2]

Solid state batteries will be the game changer...but they apparently are much more difficult to mass produce than one would think.

I love driving EVs, but I won't own one right now because the range issue does not fit my lifestyle. I do a lot of driving in remote locations.

All that said....Who the Hell at Ford thought it was a good idea to put a Mustang label on an EV?

 

[jethreauxdawg]

Infrastructure that supports in road charging while driving would be a big step. I've seen some trials like that, but can't imagine a maintenance cycle that makes that feasible anytime soon.

Whoa. Didn’t realize that was a thing. And yes, the maintenance on them would probably cause serious road rage.

 

[Coast_Dawg]

Infrastructure that supports in road charging while driving would be a big step. I've seen some trials like that, but can't imagine a maintenance cycle that makes that feasible anytime soon.

I don’t see in road charging ever being a thing in the US in my lifetime (next 40-50 years). DOT (take your pick) can’t/won’t build roads adequately now much less adding another sensitive layer to the equation.

 

[horshack.sixpack]

I don’t see in road charging ever being a thing in the US in my lifetime (next 40-50 years). DOT (take your pick) can’t/won’t build roads adequately now much less adding another sensitive layer to the equation.

OK, how about overhead lines and we all drive things with the little bumper car spring thing sticking out the top that drag along the wire?***

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

Infrastructure that supports in road charging while driving would be a big step. I've seen some trials like that, but can't imagine a maintenance cycle that makes that feasible anytime soon.

Bubba on snow plow duty will take care of that real quick.

 

[horshack.sixpack]

Bubba on snow plow duty will take care of that real quick.

or Yazoo Clay...

 

[Coast_Dawg]

OK, how about overhead lines and we all drive things with the little bumper car spring thing sticking out the top that drag along the wire?***

Not sure about all of that. If I’m not mistaken, in-road charging is already a thing for some public transportation methods in one or more of the Nordic countries. The US just doesn’t build roads to the same quality as over there from my perspective.

 

[patdog]

Need more hybrid options.

Car makers are starting to realize they made a mistake trying to push for full EVs so soon. Ford is cutting a lot of their EVs they’ve lost billions on & replacing them with hybrids.

 

[FormerBully]

This AI growth has basically solidified fossil fuels as being a permanent part of America's energy infrastructure.

I wish we would go all in on nuclear energy.

 

[aTotal360]

Car makers are starting to realize they made a mistake trying to push for full EVs so soon. Ford is cutting a lot of their EVs they’ve lost billions on & replacing them with hybrids.

Curious to see this in the wild (tho I wish it were a Ford).

 

[thedoubledeuce]

EREV's are potentially going to be a game changer. All the benefits of an EV with no range anxiety.

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/02/05/for...html?msockid=17bf93bdf91268bb3a8787b9f8ba69c0

https://www.ramtrucks.com/electric/1500-rev.html?msockid=17bf93bdf91268bb3a8787b9f8ba69c0

 

[The Peeper]

FREE CHARGING

 

[DesotoCountyDawg]

EREV's are potentially going to be a game changer. All the benefits of an EV with no range anxiety.

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/02/05/for...html?msockid=17bf93bdf91268bb3a8787b9f8ba69c0

https://www.ramtrucks.com/electric/1500-rev.html?msockid=17bf93bdf91268bb3a8787b9f8ba69c0

It makes so much more sense.

 

[The Peeper]

They do not fit my driving patterns or patience level. My anecdotal evidence is that I often stay at a Hampton in Nashville that has a number of Tesla chargers. I've never stayed there when I didn't see multiple Teslas lined up charging that were not guests of the hotel. I come/go several times and see the same guy/car sitting for a long time on their phone in the car just waiting to get charged up enough to do whatever they need to do next. I get antsy if I'm more than one person back for a gas pump...

Same here, why would I spend more money on an EV when my longest commute in Starkville is 9 miles? My daily commute to work when I work is 6 minutes. When I go see the kids its a 5.5 hr trip though, I'm not stopping on that trip to charge a vehicle while I walk around some Buc-ees looking at Pecan Nut Rolls and Beaver Nuts.
As for the charging, I'd like to know what MSU, City of Starkville and TVA have spent for the chargers in Starkville that I NEVER see any vehicles using. I did see a Starkville Utilities Chevrolet Volt plugged in once to the one across the street from their offices but otherwise, they're never used. Kroger had some for awhile and got rid of them.

 

[Darryl Steight]

Same here, why would I spend more money on an EV when my longest commute in Starkville is 9 miles? My daily commute to work when I work is 6 minutes. When I go see the kids its a 5.5 hr trip though, I'm not stopping on that trip to charge a vehicle while I walk around some Buc-ees looking at Pecan Nut Rolls and Beaver Nuts.
As for the charging, I'd like to know what MSU, City of Starkville and TVA have spent for the chargers in Starkville that I NEVER see any vehicles using. I did see a Starkville Utilities Chevrolet Volt plugged in once to the one across the street from their offices but otherwise, they're never used. Kroger had some for awhile and got rid of them.

See this guy disparaging Beaver Nuggets?? Perfect example of why we need the downvote.**

 

[RocketDawg]

I think it'd be great to have one for "around town" driving, and if you had your own fast charging station at home. I don't think I'd want to park it inside the garage tho - there was a fire attributed to an EV in California in the past day or two, where firemen had to rescue the occupants from the house.

That said, we all feel safe parking a car with 15 or 20 gallons of gasoline in the garage ....

What would be nice would be to put a water hose in your fuel tank, have a fuel cell that breaks it down to hydrogen and oxygen for fuel and oxidizer. Totally "green", after manufacturing. But we're not to that point yet.

 

[thedoubledeuce]

Same here, why would I spend more money on an EV when my longest commute in Starkville is 9 miles? My daily commute to work when I work is 6 minutes. When I go see the kids its a 5.5 hr trip though, I'm not stopping on that trip to charge a vehicle while I walk around some Buc-ees looking at Pecan Nut Rolls and Beaver Nuts.
As for the charging, I'd like to know what MSU, City of Starkville and TVA have spent for the chargers in Starkville that I NEVER see any vehicles using. I did see a Starkville Utilities Chevrolet Volt plugged in once to the one across the street from their offices but otherwise, they're never used. Kroger had some for awhile and got rid of them.

Have you considered a PHEV?

 

[The Peeper]

No, don't see the need to spend extra money on it. A tank of gas in Starkville lasts me two weeks, at least, and on the highway trips to see the kids over 5 hrs away its going to run on gas anyway. They're just not practical for all drivers

 

[patdog]

I think it'd be great to have one for "around town" driving, and if you had your own fast charging station at home. I don't think I'd want to park it inside the garage tho - there was a fire attributed to an EV in California in the past day or two, where firemen had to rescue the occupants from the house.

That said, we all feel safe parking a car with 15 or 20 gallons of gasoline in the garage ....

What would be nice would be to put a water hose in your fuel tank, have a fuel cell that breaks it down to hydrogen and oxygen for fuel and oxidizer. Totally "green", after manufacturing. But we're not to that point yet.

But how are you going to recoup your added initial costs if all you do is in-town driving? EVs make the most sense for someone who has about a 50 mile commute every day and very rarely would take the car on any extended trips.

 

[ETK99]

Nobody will argue they're not cool, but not only the charging is an issue, but ridiculous battery costs and the weight destroying tires is a major obstacle. They've got to find a small, inexpensive battery option that charges quickly. Then, charge station costs have to come down.

 

[Bulldog Bruce]

I don't understand why this is epiphany now. I posted in an EV discussion on this board many years ago that hybrids are the obvious way to go. They will decrease fossil fuel usage and be the way to build infrastructure and technology at a reasonable timeframe. Any full transition to EVs was going to fail at this point.

This is definitely a ...

 

[greenbean.sixpack]

Need more hybrid options.

 

[Captain Ron]

9 years with a Tesla now. 8 with my Model 3 and 1 with a Y. Currently about 350 mile range, athough unless on a trip, I keep it closer to 80% which is about 280 range.

I have a fast charger at home that gets me 30 MPH, the 110v about 5 mph. . Overnight charging at 110v gets me 60 miles back in the battery which way more than I drive on an average day, although normally I am using the fast charger unless I need it for the 3.

The new Superchargers are dumping 350KW, so with a low battery, not unusual to see charge rates of 1300+ mph.

Unless I am doing a road trip of over 300 miles, I don’t have the need to stop at a Super Charger which are all over the place here in Florida these days.

If a hotel has a charger, I will certainly plug in just like I do at home.

I don’t do it for the cost savings, but I can tell you my friends also spend much more time at the shop including oils changes and at the pump, than I do actively waiting to charge.

Other EV’s, uhhh not so much.

Certainly it depends on your driving habits, but it is overall a plus to me.

 

[RocketDawg]

But how are you going to recoup your added initial costs if all you do is in-town driving? EVs make the most sense for someone who has about a 50 mile commute every day and very rarely would take the car on any extended trips.

You're not, it would be a "nice to have", but here "around town" is typically a 10-12 mile trip one way to the golf course, Home Depot, VBC, etc. so I suppose it would eventually add up if you make several short trips like I do. I don't think an EV would ever pay for itself however.

 

[greenbean.sixpack]

EVs are fine fine as commuter vehicles. 100ish miles or less road trip. Charge ‘em at night. No long trips, no hauling, etc.

 

[OG Goat Holder]

I don't understand why this is epiphany now. I posted in an EV discussion on this board many years ago that hybrids are the obvious way to go. They will decrease fossil fuel usage and be the way to build infrastructure and technology at a reasonable timeframe. Any full transition to EVs was going to fail at this point.

This is definitely a ...

I recently bought a hybrid and it's great.

 

[HRMSU]

This AI growth has basically solidified fossil fuels as being a permanent part of America's energy infrastructure.

It's going to bring back Nuclear too.

 

[thatsbaseball]

I recently bought a hybrid and it's great.

And probably has a decent resale value .