OT: grass
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Bermuda is easy to keep and grow, I'd nuke the other two., That, just me.
Most of my lawn is zoysia, and I recently planted some seed, to fill in a few spots caused over the years.
That has gone better than I expected. (still a slow grower)
Most of my lawn is zoysia, and I recently planted some seed, to fill in a few spots caused over the years.
That has gone better than I expected. (still a slow grower)
100% keep the Bermuda as long as all of your lawn get's plenty of sun. Bermuda doesn't grow in the shade.
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Bahia sucks. 17ing pasture grass and grows too fast.
Bermuda is OK, takes maintenance. If left alone and not sprayed, weeds take over. To keep it perfect in my opinion you have to pay a company to spray.
St Augustine, if established, will choke everything else out. I’d recommend going with that if you can.
Bermuda is OK, takes maintenance. If left alone and not sprayed, weeds take over. To keep it perfect in my opinion you have to pay a company to spray.
St Augustine, if established, will choke everything else out. I’d recommend going with that if you can.
Kill the Bahai for sure and your second should be the St. Augustine........Bermuda is pretty easy to maintain if you have full sun.......Plus, it's just looks better than St. Augustine.......
Spray it with MSMA and let the strong survive.
Bermuda is a glorified weed. I’m not sure I’ve ever had a yard with Bahia. Kind of looks like centipede from photos I’ve seen of it. I’ve been putting St Aug down the last few years in the shade and it has taken over. Low maintenance, easy to cut, chokes out weeds. I’m all in on St Aug.
You’re considering bahiagrass for turf? Does your husband know?
Depends on how far north you are for St Augustine to be an option.
Was thinking this was originally a "grass" or CBD question. **
most of my lawn is zoysia with a small bit of st Augustine. The Augustine is in the shade around a pecan tree and I kinda let it grow don't wanna hurt the pecan production (my elderly neighbor loves to pick up the pecans of our five trees). The zoysia I keep a bit on the tall side and it keeps the weeds choked out. MSMA your lawn and let the Bermuda take over. More options for simpler management of the Bermuda than the others. To be honest I am not a turf management specialist just a home owner.
most of my lawn is zoysia with a small bit of st Augustine. The Augustine is in the shade around a pecan tree and I kinda let it grow don't wanna hurt the pecan production (my elderly neighbor loves to pick up the pecans of our five trees). The zoysia I keep a bit on the tall side and it keeps the weeds choked out. MSMA your lawn and let the Bermuda take over. More options for simpler management of the Bermuda than the others. To be honest I am not a turf management specialist just a home owner.
This is dumb, MSMA three times and year (hit it with some 13-13-13 when it greens up after MSMA application). Can be done with a hose end sprayer. Nothing could be easier. I'm not a "rule follower" so I'm not inferring that it can be legally sprayed on residential lawns.
I've never heard of anyone actually wanting bahiagrass in their yard. You'd need to mow it every day or two. When you drive by a pasture and see tall weeds with seed heeds, it's likely either bahiagrass or dallisgrass.
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This.
That shitt—grass dulls mower blades like you’re cutting re-bar. I swear it must be what they make sandpaper from.
My grandparents had St Augustine in their yard in Clarksdale but that’s probably the extreme extent of how far north you can grow it.
I have an established st Augustine lawn in my front yard. We did a bunch of work and cut down a tree or 2 in my backyard and put down zoysia sod. The zoysia is a lot easier to deal with. St Augustine is fine as long nothing disrupts it but you can’t use a lot of herbicides on st Augustine. Given the OPs options, I’d probably try and let the Bermuda grow, although that is not my favorite. But if I were putting down new sod, it would be zoysia for sure.
I have found that well groomed weeds work nicely.
Growing up my grandmother had a carpet of St Augustine in Monroe count. I had a great Centipede yard up until about 5-6 years ago and a prolonged drought killed it. I’ve tried top seeding it and watering but I can’t get it back.
Carpetgrass. I hate Bermuda because I hate cutting the grass and it running everywhere. I’ve had carpetgrass in my backyard for years and only cut it when the seed heads pop up. Also it grows in thick and keeps most weeds out.
If shade is not an issue you have more weed control options, less disease pressure and less water needs with bermuda. If you have shade St. Aug is the grass to keep. Now what bermuda do you have? Is it a "hybrid bermuda" or a common bermuda? Common will have seedheads with 5 or 4 branches, hybrid will have seedheads with mostly 3 branches. If I had hybrid I would try to keep it. If its common you might like the St. Aug better, it is a better looking grass than common bermuda to me. Also we have a new herbicide that will allow us to take bermuda out of St. Aug. you might need a professional to do the spraying but that is an option we have not had before. If you have hybrid bermuda and want to keep it, drop your mowing height to 1 inch, and mow 2 times per week. Fertilize with 3/4 lab N every 2 weeks and water if needed. This will favor the bermuda. You can then use MSMA (if your yard is a roadside or cottonfield) or 2,4-D to hurt the St. Aug. The bahia can be removed with MSM turf - follow the label. Bermuda must be fertilized to be competitive with weeds, At least 3 lbs of N per 1000 ft sq per summer. More is better but more means more mowing. Mow at 1 inch to 1.5 inches. with a rotary mower with a sharp blade. If you Mowing height is 1 inch mow when grass is 1.5 inches tall, if you mow at 1.5 inches then mow when grass reaches 2.25 inches. Grow bermudagrass as long as you can during the fall. Keep mowing and fertilizing until dormancy.
Too keep St. Aug mow at 3 inches, give it 1/2 lb N per 1000 ft sq per growing month. This will favor the St. Aug as bermuda thins at higher mowing heights. What out for large patch disease in fall and if you have it treat for it in the fall and again in the spring. Watch our for chinch bugs.
Too keep St. Aug mow at 3 inches, give it 1/2 lb N per 1000 ft sq per growing month. This will favor the St. Aug as bermuda thins at higher mowing heights. What out for large patch disease in fall and if you have it treat for it in the fall and again in the spring. Watch our for chinch bugs.
If you like to walk in the yard barefoot St Augustine is your choice. The others dont compare
St Augustine is way tougher to me. The stolons are thick and tough. Inch to 2 inch Bermuda or Zoysia are soft.
That won't be st Augustine. Msma will smoke it
Can you buy a “reasonable” amount of MSMA through a retail store anymore? I can’t find it anywhere other than online. And it’s expensive and in large quantities.
Centipede for sun Zoysia for shade. I just about won’t put St Aug out for people anymore unless it’s full sun. If we do I warn them about the problems and will not warranty it. St Aug we get now is not the St Aug we all grew up with. It hates wet areas, love to get fungus. Thins in the shade and pests love it.
1/2 lb of N - - nitrogen?
How do you handle the large patch disease if it have it in the St Augustine?
Ascernity fungicide. 2 applications in the fall before dormancy followed by 1 application in the spring at 50% green up. Follow label rates.
Last I bought was 2 1/2 gallons at Scruggs Farm Supply in Tupelo but that probably been two years ago. They may have taken it off the retail market, who knows.
I hate the bahai grass but wanted unbiased opinions. It sprouts in patches of the yard and forces me to mow way too much. It will eventually take over a yard if it isn't controlled.
as a professor of mine once said....."grass is something you smoke".....it's called TURF or Turfgrass
Bahai is not a residential turf grass.....but granted, long ago, we mixed bahai in our bermuda seed mix b/c it germinated so quick (we were seeding large industrial & warehousing sites)
St. Aug vs Bermuda......my very simple take:
1. 2 totally different turf grass looks. St. Aug wide blade and rough texture appearance.....vs bermudas thin blade and fine textured appearance.
2. Bermuda easy to care for, and most fellas want there lawn short, so bermuda is best if you want to keep at a lower height (irrigation and feeding your lawn will be needed if keeping short.
3. Bermuda very easy to keep weed free.
4. I have St. Aug, and currently am at 4.5" inches on my mower deck, and will take to 5" w/in 2 weeks. When I finish cutting, it looks to be 2 inches, but when you step off in it, you will loose your shoe. allows far less water / irrigation consumption and if I miss a occurrence, it does not look shaggy, and at that height, I seem to resist drought better
5. I'm not picky with fertilizers and generally use any time release feeding
6. for both, I will hammer them with iron to get that deep green color (and it let's my neighborhood know that I am the ALPHA)
7. before you start pumping fertilizer to it, check the PH of your soil.....most lawns in central MS need lime to get the ph right. if your ph is off, fertilizer is almost a mute point
*MY 2 cents
St. Aug vs Bermuda......my very simple take:
1. 2 totally different turf grass looks. St. Aug wide blade and rough texture appearance.....vs bermudas thin blade and fine textured appearance.
2. Bermuda easy to care for, and most fellas want there lawn short, so bermuda is best if you want to keep at a lower height (irrigation and feeding your lawn will be needed if keeping short.
3. Bermuda very easy to keep weed free.
4. I have St. Aug, and currently am at 4.5" inches on my mower deck, and will take to 5" w/in 2 weeks. When I finish cutting, it looks to be 2 inches, but when you step off in it, you will loose your shoe. allows far less water / irrigation consumption and if I miss a occurrence, it does not look shaggy, and at that height, I seem to resist drought better
5. I'm not picky with fertilizers and generally use any time release feeding
6. for both, I will hammer them with iron to get that deep green color (and it let's my neighborhood know that I am the ALPHA)
7. before you start pumping fertilizer to it, check the PH of your soil.....most lawns in central MS need lime to get the ph right. if your ph is off, fertilizer is almost a mute point
*MY 2 cents